Trump Chaos and 2020

[RealDave]

So he writes (and actually sends, holy shit) a letter to a world leader that looks like it was written by a fourth grader. He loses his shit in a meeting with the leaders of a co-equal branch of government, insults them, meeting ends. Before that he's trolling and dancing on the graves of the Kurds, as bombs were raining down on them, after he threw our allies under the bus.

This is just the last few days. It has been like this for over two years now. It's happened with such frequency that it almost seems NORMAL, and that's the LAST thing it should be.

Meanwhile, the Democratic Party is now largely under the control of illiberal leftist authoritarians. I'd really like to vote third party, since both parties have completely gone over the edge. I wanted to vote third party in 2016, but I knew I didn't want Trump within miles of the Oval Office. So I held my nose with both hands and voted for Hillary.

This man should not be in the White House. He is unstable, he is not mentally well, he has no empathy or loyalty or decency or dignity, and he's becoming a literal danger to this country. This can't continue. So now I have to prepare myself to do it again, against my impulses and wishes.
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My understanding is totally different.
Apparently they had this meeting yesterday.....and the Democrat leaders decided to stage another event.
Trump handed out a copy of the letter he sent to all of the members present....Pelosi refused to read it...turned it face-down on the table....then started making wise-cracks about Putin and Trump. Trump asks Pelosi what she finds so funny and she starts throwing a fit and storms out. Once the spoiled Dems left....they actually got something done. Meanwhile the Democrats were outside pouting and making up their version of what happened in the meeting and Nancy Pelosi is nashing her dentures and grinning like a cokehead. I really think the next time she shows up at the White House, she should do it sober.

Your understanding is total bullshit.

But hey, Trump moved our troops to allow Turkey to invade & kill hundreds of those that were fighting with us & all your fat assed orange POS can do is send a letter with schoolyard threats?

Really?

You are really proud of this?

So he should of kept our troops there so "the US troops" could be killed. Real liberal of you.

You assfucks got 4600 soldiers killed in Iraq in a war based on lies.

We were there to helping others fight ISIS.

You a ISIS lover?

Obama had troops killed in Afghanistan, why the fuck should we stay in Syria and how more troops killed. Damn you are fucking stupid.

We were chanting "NO MORE BUSH's", while your lame stream media was trying to have Jeb the front runner. Now we see why.

Oull ourt of syria in a manner that does not promote the slaughter of those who fought with us.

You assfucks are just too stupid to get that.

 

[mudwhistle]

TDS

Obama Derangement Syndrome
(ODS) Obama Derangement Syndrome going full force
Why those with the worst case of "Obama Derangement Syndrome" the most "sensitive".

Wingers. Peas in pod.
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Yep. Obama received a lot of well warranted criticism.

I still don't remember anyone impeaching him.

 

[mudwhistle]

You’re hilarious...Muslims murder people for wearing different colors and you’re upset with Trump.

What, we're only allowed to have issues with one or the other?

Is that how your mind works?

Is that what talk radio has done to your thought processes?
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I have yet to see you blame anything on anyone other than Trump.
Muslims have no respect for diplomacy.

I think he is an abomination, an embarrassment, and an insult to the office.

I have more respect for my country than to bend over for this.

That has nothing to do with my opinion on any other topic or issue.
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It says something about your character when you say that Trump is an abomination........because it appears only the superficial matters to you. A president to you must always talk like a robot and never have any personal opinions.....only the speech in front of him matters. Say one thing then do another is cool with you.

Yes, it does say something about my character.

I'm not willing to lower my standards into the mud for political gain.
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Actually your standards are already as low as they can go.
Accept any fake politician over Trump.
That's your standards.

Typical Libertarian.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Yes, and that's an example of how the illiberal, authoritarian (Regressive) Left has so polluted the Democratic Party. Freedom of Expression is a core liberal value, and they piss on it regularly.

The Left has wrecked our culture, the Right has wrecked our socioeconomics. Both are unforgivable sins in my book.
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apparently one is forgivable. Your still voting for them.

One is even worse than the other.

I don't remember the last time I voted "for" someone on a national ballot.
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I do. You said you voted for Hillary Clinton.

Fine. I've also many times that my vote for her was against Trump.

Now we're on the same page.

Good gawd.
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That was a wasted vote.

Yeah, well, everyone has an opinion.

 

[Mac1958]

Actually your standards are already as low as they can go.
Accept any fake politician over Trump.
That's your standards.

Typical Libertarian.

I accept any fake politician?

I'm a Libertarian?

The fact that you people have to constantly lie about my positions says much about YOUR character: You're liars.
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[Mac1958]

TDS

Obama Derangement Syndrome
(ODS) Obama Derangement Syndrome going full force
Why those with the worst case of "Obama Derangement Syndrome" the most "sensitive".

Wingers. Peas in pod.
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Yep. Obama received a lot of well warranted criticism.

I still don't remember anyone impeaching him.

If you're going to compare the temperaments, personalities and behaviors of those two people, just drop it.

That's just talk radio fantasy.
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[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Stormy Mac's big problem.

He wants to combine Republican Economics of "Suck it you peasants" with Democratic Social Values of anything goes.

Which absolutely no one would support in combination.

Hmm, I don't see that at all. Are you a mind reader?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

The point of this thread was your whining that evil forces are making you vote Democrat.

Another distortion. You guys can't help yourselves.

I wonder if you even realize that.

Who knows.
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Mac knows! He’s being forced to vote Democrat against his will and wingers are distorting his true words.

This comment is sure to persuade him back to the eternal light of the Republican side. Excellent work.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Actually, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and hoped that he might grow up a bit in the position.

That's where we differ, I believe. I could never give the Orange Virus the benefit of any doubt. Still don't.

 

[Mac1958]

Actually, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and hoped that he might grow up a bit in the position.

That's where we differ, I believe. I could never give the Orange Virus the benefit of any doubt. Still don't.

Can't blame you. Sometimes I try to give people too much credit.
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[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

It says something about your character when you say that Trump is an abomination........because it appears only the superficial matters to you.

My irony meter just exploded.

 

[mudwhistle]

Actually your standards are already as low as they can go.
Accept any fake politician over Trump.
That's your standards.

Typical Libertarian.

I accept any fake politician?

I'm a Libertarian?

The fact that you people have to constantly lie about my positions says much about YOUR character: You're liars.
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Thou dost protest too much.

Using a circular argument isn't going to work here.
I'm not the one going around acting like everyone is a bunch of wingers.
I'm not pointing fingers at anything and everything as if I have no positions.
It's clear that you're just a c**t-hair from being fully Democrat.....your posts pretty much makes that clear.

You say Trump is an abomination while totally ignoring the horrendous acts of the MSM and the Soviets in the Democrat Party.
Trump wouldn't have to be this way if is wasn't for the motherfuckers who have been attacking him 24/7/365 every single God Damn Motherfucking day.
My understanding is he is a blow-heart at times and he's overly proud.....but he's got a YUGE heart.....everyone decent who has met him can testify to that fact.
He's not perfect....but he's the only SumBitch standing between us and an Authoritarian Dictatorship in Washington.

 

[mudwhistle]

It says something about your character when you say that Trump is an abomination........because it appears only the superficial matters to you.

My irony meter just exploded.

That can happen when you spend most of your day with your head up your ass.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

It says something about your character when you say that Trump is an abomination........because it appears only the superficial matters to you.

My irony meter just exploded.

That can happen when you spend most of your day with your head up your ass.

You would know, I'm sure.

 

[Mac1958]

Actually your standards are already as low as they can go.
Accept any fake politician over Trump.
That's your standards.

Typical Libertarian.

I accept any fake politician?

I'm a Libertarian?

The fact that you people have to constantly lie about my positions says much about YOUR character: You're liars.
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Thou dost protest too much.

Using a circular argument isn't going to work here.
I'm not the one going around acting like everyone is a bunch of wingers.
I'm not pointing fingers at anything and everything as if I have no positions.
It's clear that you're just a c**t-hair from being fully Democrat.....your posts pretty much makes that clear.

You say Trump is an abomination while totally ignoring the horrendous acts of the MSM and the Soviets in the Democrat Party.
Trump wouldn't have to be this way if is wasn't for the motherfuckers who have been attacking him 24/7/365 every single God Damn Motherfucking day.
My understanding is he is a blow-heart at times and he's overly proud.....but he's got a YUGE heart.....everyone decent who has met him can testify to that fact.
He's not perfect....but he's the only SumBitch standing between us and an Authoritarian Dictatorship in Washington.

I've never said that "everyone is a bunch of wingers". I think you're an unpleasant and destructive minority. Another lie.

My positions are listed in the thread linked at the end of the second line of my sig. Another lie.

Trump can be an abomination other people can be negative things too. The two conditions can exist in the same universe simultaneously. True story.

Trump doesn't have to be this way. No one is forcing him to behave like this. Another lie.

This is why I no longer burn a lot of energy on wingers. You simply keep making shit up.
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[mudwhistle]

It says something about your character when you say that Trump is an abomination........because it appears only the superficial matters to you.

My irony meter just exploded.

That can happen when you spend most of your day with your head up your ass.

You would know, I'm sure.

That's why I stated it.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

It says something about your character when you say that Trump is an abomination........because it appears only the superficial matters to you.

My irony meter just exploded.

That can happen when you spend most of your day with your head up your ass.

You would know, I'm sure.

That's why I stated it.

Pull your head out of your ass, then.

 

[mudwhistle]

Actually your standards are already as low as they can go.
Accept any fake politician over Trump.
That's your standards.

Typical Libertarian.

I accept any fake politician?

I'm a Libertarian?

The fact that you people have to constantly lie about my positions says much about YOUR character: You're liars.
.

Thou dost protest too much.

Using a circular argument isn't going to work here.
I'm not the one going around acting like everyone is a bunch of wingers.
I'm not pointing fingers at anything and everything as if I have no positions.
It's clear that you're just a c**t-hair from being fully Democrat.....your posts pretty much makes that clear.

You say Trump is an abomination while totally ignoring the horrendous acts of the MSM and the Soviets in the Democrat Party.
Trump wouldn't have to be this way if is wasn't for the motherfuckers who have been attacking him 24/7/365 every single God Damn Motherfucking day.
My understanding is he is a blow-heart at times and he's overly proud.....but he's got a YUGE heart.....everyone decent who has met him can testify to that fact.
He's not perfect....but he's the only SumBitch standing between us and an Authoritarian Dictatorship in Washington.

I've never said that "everyone is a bunch of wingers". I think you're an unpleasant and destructive minority. Another lie.

My positions are listed in the thread linked at the end of the second line of my sig. Another lie.

Trump can be an abomination other people can be negative things too. The two conditions can exist in the same universe simultaneously. True story.

Trump doesn't have to be this way. No one is forcing him to behave like this. Another lie.

This is why I no longer burn a lot of energy on wingers. You simply keep making shit up.
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WRONG!!!
Because the Democrats are so criminal in their actions we need a leader like Trump.
He's the only person that can stand up to their tactics.
All you have to do is consider everything they say with skepticism and it becomes clear.
Trump is saying what we want to say.
We don't need a gentleman in this fight....we need a streetfighter.

October 21, 2019
Like Him or Not, Trump is Uniquely Suited for Such a Time as This
By Scott S. Powell
With the constant drumbeat from the mainstream media, Democrats now hope that the whirlwind in Washington of the so-called impeachment investigation will spread so much smoke that people won’t be able to see what’s going on, except to subliminally conclude that with all that smoke around Donald Trump, there must be a fire, and that it’ll die down with his removal from office.

In fact, President Trump has so much smoke around him because history has thrust on him the role of American firefighter-in-chief charged with extinguishing corruption in government and in the media, as well as fighting a myriad of other smoldering battles -- from protecting the nation’s sovereignty and borders and redressing unfair trade deals and cost-sharing of military defense alliances to promoting policies to secure energy independence and drive economic growth, with a particular passion to deliver opportunity for those at the bottom.

With a second term, Trump is likely to become a historically consequential political realignment leader -- what Andrew Jackson was to the Democrats and Abraham Lincoln was to the Republicans. He has already broadened the base of the Republican Party, and with a little more political jujitsu he can easily make more inroads and gain support from minorities and other constituencies who feel they’ve been neglected, or worse -- have been used as political pawns by the Democrat Party elites, election cycle after election cycle.

The United States is absolutely unique in human history being founded on two bedrock tenets. First, the American people are endowed with unalienable individual rights that come from God and not the state -- life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, along with privacy rights, due process and a presumption of innocence. Secondly, the legitimacy of the American government established by the Constitution comes solely from the will of the people determined by their choice through elections. States and districts choose their senators and representatives by popular vote, but the chief executive -- the President -- is elected by an Electoral College system, with electors being proportionally equal to each state’s number of U.S. House Representatives plus one for each of its two U.S. senators. The Founders’ wisdom regarding a need for an Electoral College thus established a blueprint for a governing a large and diverse country by balancing the preferences and will of the people living in sparsely populated states with the different priorities of densely populated states and urban areas that typically have a greater concentration of government dependency and welfare -- and the sort of patronage and political corruption that comes with that.

Few can deny that the ascendance of the United States from colonial poverty to the world’s top economic and military superpower in just 200 years is a historic miracle. It is attributable to a few key differentiating factors: Judeo-Christian beliefs and work ethic, family values and the rule of law enshrined in the founding documents of Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Essentially, America was unique in its birth creating a system of limited government and the empowerment of its citizens to take risks, innovate and build.

And so it should come as no surprise that America’s social and cultural decline that has accelerated in the last 50 years has coincided with growing secularism, a loss of respect for and practice of religion (and that is overwhelmingly Christianity), the decline of traditional family values and work ethic, as well as the fraying of the U.S. Constitution and the corruption of the nation’s law enforcement and judicial order, culminating in a two-tiered justice system.

It may not be a crime to engineer the manipulation of public opinion, but it certainly is a multiple-count felony to conspire and submit false information to a FISA court to obtain surveillance warrants to spy on a presidential campaign -- an actual U.S. intelligence operation initiated on July 31, 2016 against the Trump campaign, known as “Crossfire Hurricane.” The justification for surveillance was allegedly that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian operatives in their efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. The real reason for spying can be deduced from FBI Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence Peter Strzok, who referred to Crossfire Hurricane as “the insurance policy,” the purpose of which was to leak and seed the media with enough dirt on Trump to discredit him and sabotage his campaign leading up to the November election.

The evidence assembled in the last two or three years now shows that it was Hillary Clinton’s campaign that got support from the Ukraine and knowingly or unknowingly colluded with the Russians by paying for opposition research in the form of Russian disinformation that constituted the bulk of the Steele Dossier. In addition to using that phony dossier to sully and discredit Trump through the media, it was then utilized to politically weaponize the U.S. intelligence agencies. The Department of Justice and the FBI positioned the dossier as the primary evidentiary source content in the affidavits submitted to obtain a FISA warrant in October 2016 authorizing surveillance on Carter Page--and through him, on the entire Trump campaign. Three additional renewals every 90 days thereafter were made after Trump became president.

The Steele dossier was again used by cabinet members in the Obama Administration, notably the heads of the U.S. intelligence agencies -- specifically CIA Director John Brennan, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and FBI Director James Comey. It was included in their January 2017 official report, “Intelligence Community Assessment on Russian interference in the 2016 election,” that conclusively suggested the incoming Republican president was compromised by the Russians. Thus, the way was paved for what would be the Mueller investigation, which became a two-year fishing expedition that ended with the exoneration of Trump from collusion charges with any Russians.

In hindsight, so much of what transpired appears to have been choreographed, making this attempted coup against a legitimately elected President of the United States a conspiracy. It’s a crime that not only makes Watergate look like Romper Room, but is breathtaking in audacity -- rivalling the fiction of top spy novelists John le Carre or Robert Ludlum. If we didn’t have the digital and paper trail evidence, few would believe that this could happen in America.

There is simply no greater crime against the United States, its Constitution and its people than subverting the government that is duly elected by the people. The evidence that this crime was committed with the consent and support of aforementioned individuals and others from the Obama administration, who were working in concert with many others, is now overwhelming.

The few wise people left in the Democratic Party know that their presidential candidates’ embrace of a panoply of unfunded and outrageouly expensive left-wing policies is a losing proposition juxtaposed to the persona and policy success of Trump, who has delivered results against almost impossible odds in the face of unprecedented hostility. The nation has also witnessed the Democrats cave in to the extremism of Sandy O and the “Squad,” pushing to modify both the First and Second Amendments and embrace the tactics of Marxist-anarchist Saul Alinsky, who was all about taking the gloves off to destroy political opponents by lying, character assassination, and denying their opponents any semblance of due process or the presumption of innocence. Who can forget what the Democrats did to destroy Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh?

As this all sinks in with the electorate as the 2020 election approaches, it may turn out to be a landslide victory for Donald Trump. After voters digest that the Democratic Party has fully adopted the ethos that the ends justify the means, it’s likely to be a small minority that is willing to take the chance on vesting the Democrats with the power of the presidency.

At the same time, part of the frenzy in Washington reflects fear -- in and around the coup conspirators in Washington and their Deep State supporters, many of whom work relatively anonymously in various government agencies -- that the hammer of justice is about to fall with indictments, trials, and jail time from the work of the Barr-Durham-Horowitz trio, who share with Trump the weight of history.

This was not dirty politics as usual, but a culmination of political corruption in America. When the Clinton crime syndicate skated free, it became open season for the Democrats and the Deep State to amp up political warfare in America to a new level. And now it’s baldly visible for all to see in the two-tiered justice system that the liberal global elites count on for protection and then use against their enemies -- such as shielding Hillary Clinton from prosecution for multiple felonies that compromised national security and then engineering a coup against outsider President Donald Trump without factual evidence of any crime. It’s obvious that the so-called Deep State elites are desperate to destroy Trump because he is the first president of either party with the courage to deliver on the promise to drain the swamp and beat back government corruption -- which if successful, would fundamentally change how Washington works.

This double standard accommodation with criminal corruption is to a free republic what a deadly cancer is to an individual. If unchecked, such corruption will surely destroy freedom and prosperity in the United States as we have known it, and in short order.

Most everyone is on to the Pelosi-Schiff impeachment investigation hearings as being all form and little substance. Sham hearings held secretly behind closed doors tells you everything you need to know. This is nothing more than the next phase of an illegitimate coup, whose secondary purpose is to create smoke to obfuscate and prevent seeing the real story. And in case you missed it, that story is a simple one: Like him or not, Donald Trump was chosen for such a time as this, when unusual courage and energy are critically necessary to persevere with the priorities to save the nation from self-destruction. https://www.americanthinker.com/art..._uniquely_suited_for_such_a_time_as_this.html​

 

[mudwhistle]

It says something about your character when you say that Trump is an abomination........because it appears only the superficial matters to you.

My irony meter just exploded.

That can happen when you spend most of your day with your head up your ass.

You would know, I'm sure.

That's why I stated it.

Pull your head out of your ass, then.

You would know.

 

[Zorro!]

So he writes (and actually sends, holy shit) a letter to a world leader that looks like it was written by a fourth grader. He loses his shit in a meeting with the leaders of a co-equal branch of government, insults them, meeting ends. Before that he's trolling and dancing on the graves of the Kurds, as bombs were raining down on them, after he threw our allies under the bus.

This is just the last few days. It has been like this for over two years now. It's happened with such frequency that it almost seems NORMAL, and that's the LAST thing it should be.

Meanwhile, the Democratic Party is now largely under the control of illiberal leftist authoritarians. I'd really like to vote third party, since both parties have completely gone over the edge. I wanted to vote third party in 2016, but I knew I didn't want Trump within miles of the Oval Office. So I held my nose with both hands and voted for Hillary.

This man should not be in the White House. He is unstable, he is not mentally well, he has no empathy or loyalty or decency or dignity, and he's becoming a literal danger to this country. This can't continue. So now I have to prepare myself to do it again, against my impulses and wishes.
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Ridiculous. He's getting fabulous results.

And as of the last surveys, Trump is beating all of the Democrats, including Biden, in the key swing states.