Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!

[P F Tinmore]

• The Arab Palestinians via the All Palestine Government (APG) was a puppet regime that had no sovereignty.

At least it was established by over 80 local Palestinian leaders. And they declared it on behalf of all of the people and inside its international borders.

On the other hand, Israel was declared by the foreign Jewish Agency that was created in Zurich by the foreign World Zionist Organization. Israel was formed on behalf of newly arrived settlers. It defined no territory or borders.

The Jewish agency was a creature of the Mandate and worked in an advisory capacity. It had no political power. Since it was a part of the Mandate, when the Mandate left it had no function.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, and you haven't got it right yet...

(COMMENT)

Let's see: 50 years ago, the territories - currently under discussion (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) - were both occupied after the end of a military pursuit of hostile forces.

✪ The Israelis occupied the West Bank. → Jordanian Sovereignty.........(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
✪ The Israelis occupied the Gaza Strip. → An Egyptian Governorship...(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)​

There are two International Treaties between the Jordanians and Egyptians that put the matter to rest; which dissolved the Armistice Agreements.

............................... "entitled to under international law" ...............................

✪ Please cite for us what the Arab Palestinians are legally demanding.
✪ Please cite us the authority or international law you claim demands the relinquishment.​

Most Respectfully,
R

Egypt and Jordan did not hold sovereignty over those territories.

Also, start @28:00

They obviously did. Somehow “ International Law” wasn’t an an issue. Still haven’t addressed if the Palestinians have the Right to keep the Israelis from their Holy Sites.

I believe that is more a result of Israel's war than of any prejudice.

You’re quite befuddled. From 1948 onward, wars of aggression have been initiated by Arabs-Moslems.

You can pretend that history doesnt exist but pleading ignorance after you have been given the facts simply speaks to your agenda.

When did the Palestinians start a war?

Every rocket launched from Gaza’istan is an act of war.

That may come as a shock to you as apparently you believe Islamics have an entitlement to such acts without consequence.

 

[Hollie]

• The Arab Palestinians via the All Palestine Government (APG) was a puppet regime that had no sovereignty.

At least it was established by over 80 local Palestinian leaders.

Tribal “leaders” who had no sovereignty and no mechanism to govern.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al

OH WOW, like it matters today.

What was illegal or illegitimate about the Palestinians declaration of independence?

(COMMENT)

• The Arab Palestinians via the All Palestine Government (APG) was a puppet regime that had no sovereignty.
• The APG rejected the partition plan, then after the UNPC implemented the Israeli half, the APG comes four months late to claim the entirety of the territory formerly under the Mandate.
• The APG fouled-up the potential for the Arab League invasion, make their claim during the conflict and not a party to the conflict.

Illegal and Illegitimate are the wrong words. The words you should be using untimely, inappropriate, invalid and with no government functions in place in the same way as the Israelis by participating in the Steps Preparatory to Independence. The APG could not even establish a government over the Gaza Strip.

Most Respectfully,
R

The APG rejected the partition plan,

That doesn't matter.

the APG comes four months late to claim the entirety of the territory formerly under the Mandate.

The Mandate had no territory.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

OK, they are not the same political entity types.

Yes, and you haven't got it right yet...

The rockets did not start until almost 50 years after the occupation.

The Palestinians are asking for nothing that they are not entitled to under international law.

(COMMENT)

Let's see: 50 years ago, the territories - currently under discussion (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) - were both occupied after the end of a military pursuit of hostile forces.

✪ The Israelis occupied the West Bank. → Jordanian Sovereignty.........(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
✪ The Israelis occupied the Gaza Strip. → An Egyptian Governorship...(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)​

There are two International Treaties between the Jordanians and Egyptians that put the matter to rest; which dissolved the Armistice Agreements.

............................... "entitled to under international law" ...............................

✪ Please cite for us what the Arab Palestinians are legally demanding.
✪ Please cite us the authority or international law you claim demands the relinquishment.​

Most Respectfully,
R

Egypt and Jordan did not hold sovereignty over those territories.

(COMMENT)

Egypt was a strong Military Governorship. And the Egyptian hold was such that it dissolved the APG.

No matter what the overt political position was on the sovereignty establed by Jordan in 1950, the fact of the matter is that Jordan established the highest level of control, and the nations of the world accepted the Arab Palestinians of the West Bank exercised self-determination.

Most Respectfully,
R

Egypt was a strong Military Governorship. And the Egyptian hold was such that it dissolved the APG.

It doesn't matter. Neither held sovereignty over the territories. They were occupied Palestinian territories as they still are today.

So, you agree that Arabs-Moslems held no sovereignty over the territory.

It was territory, which you ascribe as “Pal’istanan” for no other reason than you believe it to be an Islamist waqf.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al

OH WOW, like it matters today.

What was illegal or illegitimate about the Palestinians declaration of independence?

(COMMENT)

• The Arab Palestinians via the All Palestine Government (APG) was a puppet regime that had no sovereignty.
• The APG rejected the partition plan, then after the UNPC implemented the Israeli half, the APG comes four months late to claim the entirety of the territory formerly under the Mandate.
• The APG fouled-up the potential for the Arab League invasion, make their claim during the conflict and not a party to the conflict.

Illegal and Illegitimate are the wrong words. The words you should be using untimely, inappropriate, invalid and with no government functions in place in the same way as the Israelis by participating in the Steps Preparatory to Independence. The APG could not even establish a government over the Gaza Strip.

Most Respectfully,
R

The APG rejected the partition plan,

That doesn't matter.

the APG comes four months late to claim the entirety of the territory formerly under the Mandate.

The Mandate had no territory.

Arabs-Moslems had no sovereign territory. You already acknowledged that.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Egypt and Jordan did not hold sovereignty over those territories.

Also, start @28:00

They obviously did. Somehow “ International Law” wasn’t an an issue. Still haven’t addressed if the Palestinians have the Right to keep the Israelis from their Holy Sites.

I believe that is more a result of Israel's war than of any prejudice.

You’re quite befuddled. From 1948 onward, wars of aggression have been initiated by Arabs-Moslems.

You can pretend that history doesnt exist but pleading ignorance after you have been given the facts simply speaks to your agenda.

When did the Palestinians start a war?

Every rocket launched from Gaza’istan is an act of war.

That may come as a shock to you as apparently you believe Islamics have an entitlement to such acts without consequence.

Yeah but a hundred years into the war is hardly a "start."

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al

OH WOW, like it matters today.

What was illegal or illegitimate about the Palestinians declaration of independence?

(COMMENT)

• The Arab Palestinians via the All Palestine Government (APG) was a puppet regime that had no sovereignty.
• The APG rejected the partition plan, then after the UNPC implemented the Israeli half, the APG comes four months late to claim the entirety of the territory formerly under the Mandate.
• The APG fouled-up the potential for the Arab League invasion, make their claim during the conflict and not a party to the conflict.

Illegal and Illegitimate are the wrong words. The words you should be using untimely, inappropriate, invalid and with no government functions in place in the same way as the Israelis by participating in the Steps Preparatory to Independence. The APG could not even establish a government over the Gaza Strip.

Most Respectfully,
R

The APG rejected the partition plan,

That doesn't matter.

the APG comes four months late to claim the entirety of the territory formerly under the Mandate.

The Mandate had no territory.

Arabs-Moslems had no sovereign territory. You already acknowledged that.

So says Israel's bullshit machine.

Do you have any proof of that?

 

[USAF 2023]

RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, and you haven't got it right yet...

(COMMENT)

Let's see: 50 years ago, the territories - currently under discussion (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) - were both occupied after the end of a military pursuit of hostile forces.

✪ The Israelis occupied the West Bank. → Jordanian Sovereignty.........(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
✪ The Israelis occupied the Gaza Strip. → An Egyptian Governorship...(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
​

There are two International Treaties between the Jordanians and Egyptians that put the matter to rest; which dissolved the Armistice Agreements.

............................... "entitled to under international law" ...............................

✪ Please cite for us what the Arab Palestinians are legally demanding.
✪ Please cite us the authority or international law you claim demands the relinquishment.​

Most Respectfully,
R

Egypt and Jordan did not hold sovereignty over those territories.

Also, start @28:00

They obviously did. Somehow “ International Law” wasn’t an an issue. Still haven’t addressed if the Palestinians have the Right to keep the Israelis from their Holy Sites.

I believe that is more a result of Israel's war than of any prejudice.

You’re quite befuddled. From 1948 onward, wars of aggression have been initiated by Arabs-Moslems.

You can pretend that history doesnt exist but pleading ignorance after you have been given the facts simply speaks to your agenda.

When did the Palestinians start a war?

 

[Hollie]

They obviously did. Somehow “ International Law” wasn’t an an issue. Still haven’t addressed if the Palestinians have the Right to keep the Israelis from their Holy Sites.

I believe that is more a result of Israel's war than of any prejudice.

You’re quite befuddled. From 1948 onward, wars of aggression have been initiated by Arabs-Moslems.

You can pretend that history doesnt exist but pleading ignorance after you have been given the facts simply speaks to your agenda.

When did the Palestinians start a war?

Every rocket launched from Gaza’istan is an act of war.

That may come as a shock to you as apparently you believe Islamics have an entitlement to such acts without consequence.

Yeah but a hundred years into the war is hardly a "start."

Islamic terrorism knows no geographic boundaries or passage of time.

And yes, it is correct that every rocket launched by your Islamic terrorist heroes is an act of war.

Why do whine and moan when Israel responds to those acts of war?

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

OK, they are not the same political entity types.

Yes, and you haven't got it right yet...

The rockets did not start until almost 50 years after the occupation.

The Palestinians are asking for nothing that they are not entitled to under international law.

(COMMENT)

Let's see: 50 years ago, the territories - currently under discussion (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) - were both occupied after the end of a military pursuit of hostile forces.

✪ The Israelis occupied the West Bank. → Jordanian Sovereignty.........(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
✪ The Israelis occupied the Gaza Strip. → An Egyptian Governorship...(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)​

There are two International Treaties between the Jordanians and Egyptians that put the matter to rest; which dissolved the Armistice Agreements.

............................... "entitled to under international law" ...............................

✪ Please cite for us what the Arab Palestinians are legally demanding.
✪ Please cite us the authority or international law you claim demands the relinquishment.​

Most Respectfully,
R

Egypt and Jordan did not hold sovereignty over those territories.

(COMMENT)

Egypt was a strong Military Governorship. And the Egyptian hold was such that it dissolved the APG.

No matter what the overt political position was on the sovereignty establed by Jordan in 1950, the fact of the matter is that Jordan established the highest level of control, and the nations of the world accepted the Arab Palestinians of the West Bank exercised self-determination.

Most Respectfully,
R

Egypt was a strong Military Governorship. And the Egyptian hold was such that it dissolved the APG.

It doesn't matter. Neither held sovereignty over the territories. They were occupied Palestinian territories as they still are today.

So, you agree that Arabs-Moslems held no sovereignty over the territory.

It was territory, which you ascribe as “Pal’istanan” for no other reason than you believe it to be an Islamist waqf.

Which Arab Muslims are you talking about. Iraqis?

 

[P F Tinmore]

I believe that is more a result of Israel's war than of any prejudice.

You’re quite befuddled. From 1948 onward, wars of aggression have been initiated by Arabs-Moslems.

You can pretend that history doesnt exist but pleading ignorance after you have been given the facts simply speaks to your agenda.

When did the Palestinians start a war?

Every rocket launched from Gaza’istan is an act of war.

That may come as a shock to you as apparently you believe Islamics have an entitlement to such acts without consequence.

Yeah but a hundred years into the war is hardly a "start."

Islamic terrorism knows no geographic boundaries or passage of time.

And yes, it is correct that every rocket launched by your Islamic terrorist heroes is an act of war.

Why do whine and moan when Israel responds to those acts of war?

Those rockets are a response to Israel's acts of war.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al

OH WOW, like it matters today.

What was illegal or illegitimate about the Palestinians declaration of independence?

(COMMENT)

• The Arab Palestinians via the All Palestine Government (APG) was a puppet regime that had no sovereignty.
• The APG rejected the partition plan, then after the UNPC implemented the Israeli half, the APG comes four months late to claim the entirety of the territory formerly under the Mandate.
• The APG fouled-up the potential for the Arab League invasion, make their claim during the conflict and not a party to the conflict.

Illegal and Illegitimate are the wrong words. The words you should be using untimely, inappropriate, invalid and with no government functions in place in the same way as the Israelis by participating in the Steps Preparatory to Independence. The APG could not even establish a government over the Gaza Strip.

Most Respectfully,
R

The APG rejected the partition plan,

That doesn't matter.

the APG comes four months late to claim the entirety of the territory formerly under the Mandate.

The Mandate had no territory.

Arabs-Moslems had no sovereign territory. You already acknowledged that.

So says Israel's bullshit machine.

Do you have any proof of that?

I can see you’re angry and emotive but why lash out when you’re confronted with the facts? You already acknowledged that Arabs-Moslems exercised no sovereignty.

 

[Hollie]

You’re quite befuddled. From 1948 onward, wars of aggression have been initiated by Arabs-Moslems.

You can pretend that history doesnt exist but pleading ignorance after you have been given the facts simply speaks to your agenda.

When did the Palestinians start a war?

Every rocket launched from Gaza’istan is an act of war.

That may come as a shock to you as apparently you believe Islamics have an entitlement to such acts without consequence.

Yeah but a hundred years into the war is hardly a "start."

Islamic terrorism knows no geographic boundaries or passage of time.

And yes, it is correct that every rocket launched by your Islamic terrorist heroes is an act of war.

Why do whine and moan when Israel responds to those acts of war?

Those rockets are a response to Israel's acts of war.

No. They’re not. Obviously, you don’t understand such foolishness makes you appear to be quite the irrational, unthinking propagandist.

 

[Hollie]

RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

OK, they are not the same political entity types.

Yes, and you haven't got it right yet...

(COMMENT)

Let's see: 50 years ago, the territories - currently under discussion (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) - were both occupied after the end of a military pursuit of hostile forces.

✪ The Israelis occupied the West Bank. → Jordanian Sovereignty.........(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
✪ The Israelis occupied the Gaza Strip. → An Egyptian Governorship...(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)​

There are two International Treaties between the Jordanians and Egyptians that put the matter to rest; which dissolved the Armistice Agreements.

............................... "entitled to under international law" ...............................

✪ Please cite for us what the Arab Palestinians are legally demanding.
✪ Please cite us the authority or international law you claim demands the relinquishment.​

Most Respectfully,
R

Egypt and Jordan did not hold sovereignty over those territories.

(COMMENT)

Egypt was a strong Military Governorship. And the Egyptian hold was such that it dissolved the APG.

No matter what the overt political position was on the sovereignty establed by Jordan in 1950, the fact of the matter is that Jordan established the highest level of control, and the nations of the world accepted the Arab Palestinians of the West Bank exercised self-determination.

Most Respectfully,
R

Egypt was a strong Military Governorship. And the Egyptian hold was such that it dissolved the APG.

It doesn't matter. Neither held sovereignty over the territories. They were occupied Palestinian territories as they still are today.

So, you agree that Arabs-Moslems held no sovereignty over the territory.

It was territory, which you ascribe as “Pal’istanan” for no other reason than you believe it to be an Islamist waqf.

Which Arab Muslims are you talking about. Iraqis?

Why are you not paying attention?

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al

OH WOW, like it matters today.

What was illegal or illegitimate about the Palestinians declaration of independence?

(COMMENT)

• The Arab Palestinians via the All Palestine Government (APG) was a puppet regime that had no sovereignty.
• The APG rejected the partition plan, then after the UNPC implemented the Israeli half, the APG comes four months late to claim the entirety of the territory formerly under the Mandate.
• The APG fouled-up the potential for the Arab League invasion, make their claim during the conflict and not a party to the conflict.

Illegal and Illegitimate are the wrong words. The words you should be using untimely, inappropriate, invalid and with no government functions in place in the same way as the Israelis by participating in the Steps Preparatory to Independence. The APG could not even establish a government over the Gaza Strip.

Most Respectfully,
R

The APG rejected the partition plan,

That doesn't matter.

the APG comes four months late to claim the entirety of the territory formerly under the Mandate.

The Mandate had no territory.

Arabs-Moslems had no sovereign territory. You already acknowledged that.

So says Israel's bullshit machine.

Do you have any proof of that?

I can see you’re angry and emotive but why lash out when you’re confronted with the facts? You already acknowledged that Arabs-Moslems exercised no sovereignty.

Which Arab Muslims?

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

OK, they are not the same political entity types.

Egypt and Jordan did not hold sovereignty over those territories.

(COMMENT)

Egypt was a strong Military Governorship. And the Egyptian hold was such that it dissolved the APG.

No matter what the overt political position was on the sovereignty establed by Jordan in 1950, the fact of the matter is that Jordan established the highest level of control, and the nations of the world accepted the Arab Palestinians of the West Bank exercised self-determination.

Most Respectfully,
R

Egypt was a strong Military Governorship. And the Egyptian hold was such that it dissolved the APG.

It doesn't matter. Neither held sovereignty over the territories. They were occupied Palestinian territories as they still are today.

So, you agree that Arabs-Moslems held no sovereignty over the territory.

It was territory, which you ascribe as “Pal’istanan” for no other reason than you believe it to be an Islamist waqf.

Which Arab Muslims are you talking about. Iraqis?

Why are you not paying attention?

Syrians?

 

[Hollie]

RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

OK, they are not the same political entity types.

(COMMENT)

Egypt was a strong Military Governorship. And the Egyptian hold was such that it dissolved the APG.

No matter what the overt political position was on the sovereignty establed by Jordan in 1950, the fact of the matter is that Jordan established the highest level of control, and the nations of the world accepted the Arab Palestinians of the West Bank exercised self-determination.

Most Respectfully,
R

Egypt was a strong Military Governorship. And the Egyptian hold was such that it dissolved the APG.

It doesn't matter. Neither held sovereignty over the territories. They were occupied Palestinian territories as they still are today.

So, you agree that Arabs-Moslems held no sovereignty over the territory.

It was territory, which you ascribe as “Pal’istanan” for no other reason than you believe it to be an Islamist waqf.

Which Arab Muslims are you talking about. Iraqis?

Why are you not paying attention?

Syrians?

It’s actually comical to see you flail around without YouTube videos to cut and paste.

 

[USAF 2023]

You’re quite befuddled. From 1948 onward, wars of aggression have been initiated by Arabs-Moslems.

You can pretend that history doesnt exist but pleading ignorance after you have been given the facts simply speaks to your agenda.

When did the Palestinians start a war?

Every rocket launched from Gaza’istan is an act of war.

That may come as a shock to you as apparently you believe Islamics have an entitlement to such acts without consequence.

Yeah but a hundred years into the war is hardly a "start."

Islamic terrorism knows no geographic boundaries or passage of time.

And yes, it is correct that every rocket launched by your Islamic terrorist heroes is an act of war.

Why do whine and moan when Israel responds to those acts of war?

Those rockets are a response to Israel's acts of war.

Another lie.

You’re quite befuddled. From 1948 onward, wars of aggression have been initiated by Arabs-Moslems.

You can pretend that history doesnt exist but pleading ignorance after you have been given the facts simply speaks to your agenda.

When did the Palestinians start a war?

Every rocket launched from Gaza’istan is an act of war.

That may come as a shock to you as apparently you believe Islamics have an entitlement to such acts without consequence.

Yeah but a hundred years into the war is hardly a "start."

Islamic terrorism knows no geographic boundaries or passage of time.

And yes, it is correct that every rocket launched by your Islamic terrorist heroes is an act of war.

Why do whine and moan when Israel responds to those acts of war?

Those rockets are a response to Israel's acts of war.

Another lie. In 2005 when Israel withdrew from Gaza there were more then 12 Rocket attacks. There were even more in 2006

 

[P F Tinmore]

When did the Palestinians start a war?

Every rocket launched from Gaza’istan is an act of war.

That may come as a shock to you as apparently you believe Islamics have an entitlement to such acts without consequence.

Yeah but a hundred years into the war is hardly a "start."

Islamic terrorism knows no geographic boundaries or passage of time.

And yes, it is correct that every rocket launched by your Islamic terrorist heroes is an act of war.

Why do whine and moan when Israel responds to those acts of war?

Those rockets are a response to Israel's acts of war.

Another lie.

When did the Palestinians start a war?

Every rocket launched from Gaza’istan is an act of war.

That may come as a shock to you as apparently you believe Islamics have an entitlement to such acts without consequence.

Yeah but a hundred years into the war is hardly a "start."

Islamic terrorism knows no geographic boundaries or passage of time.

And yes, it is correct that every rocket launched by your Islamic terrorist heroes is an act of war.

Why do whine and moan when Israel responds to those acts of war?

Those rockets are a response to Israel's acts of war.

Another lie. In 2005 when Israel withdrew from Gaza there were more then 12 Rocket attacks. There were even more in 2006

And the occupation started in 1967.