Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!

Dont want to get my hopes up TOO much and think that Trump will be the first president since Kennedy to stand up to the corruption of Israel but who knows? I mean when was the last time a president ever had the guts to say ANYTHING negative TO THEIR FACE? that takes guts.:2up:

PressTV-‘Trump asked Israeli PM if he really cares about peace’


With Hamas and PLO - definitely not.
With Arabs in the neighborhood - yes, and the results are already showing.

A better question would be:

Q. Are PLO and Hamas capable of giving ANYONE peace, or offer something of value?

Before they can come and try to prove they deserve anything from anyone,
Palestinians should make peace withing themselves, and stop murdering each other for their twisted idea of 'honor':

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RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ LA RAM FAN, et al,

There are always those personalities orbiting around the • Question of Palestine & Future • readily to insult and express in a false sense of wisdom in their dark pompous way → as if their position (and that their compatriots) hold some special place in the ways and means of integrity, truth, and understanding. They make accusations as if their observations and evil ways are somehow vindicated in what they define as truth → and morality is always on their side of the issue. Nowhere are the evil characters more prominent than on the side of the Arab Palestinians. Nowhere else would the use of Jihadism, Deadly Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence be heroic than in the mind's eye of the Arab Palestinian cause. There would be no other group that would have the audacity to paint their action as whiter-than-white in the patriotic endeavor then those that praise Dalal al-Maghribi → the heroic Arab Palestinian that hijacked a group of vacationing Israelis and summarily 38 Israeli civilians, including 13 children (who somehow posed a threat to the Fatah faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization).

One can only wonder what must go through the mind of a heroic Arab Palestinian; the brave and fearless Martyrs as the riddled the bodies of the 13 children that were lined-up only feet away.

Dont want to get my hopes up TOO much and think that Trump will be the first president since Kennedy to stand up to the corruption of Israel but who knows? I mean when was the last time a president ever had the guts to say ANYTHING negative TO THEIR FACE? that takes guts.:2up:

PressTV-‘Trump asked Israeli PM if he really cares about peace’
(COMMENT)

In the half century in which these brave and fearless Arab Palestinians that hide themselves among the innocent civilian population in order to provide cover and concealment in the indiscriminate launching of rockets and mortars, the hijacking of commercial passenger liners, the murder and throwing overboard of a wheelchair-bound Meditarrean vacationer, or the intentionally bomb delivers to places, of public use, attacking school bus and bus stops; and of course kidnapping and murder of innocent minors.

It serves no useful purpose to listen to pro-Palestinian factions that claim to be whiter-than-white, yet support by some rationale the actions of the Arab Palestinian Martyrs like Dalal al-Maghribi.

The people of Israel are not perfect, but neither do they prance around like pompous buffoons attempting to round-up others to support them.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ LA RAM FAN, et al,

There are always those personalities orbiting around the • Question of Palestine & Future • readily to insult and express in a false sense of wisdom in their dark pompous way → as if their position (and that their compatriots) hold some special place in the ways and means of integrity, truth, and understanding. They make accusations as if their observations and evil ways are somehow vindicated in what they define as truth → and morality is always on their side of the issue. Nowhere are the evil characters more prominent than on the side of the Arab Palestinians. Nowhere else would the use of Jihadism, Deadly Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence be heroic than in the mind's eye of the Arab Palestinian cause. There would be no other group that would have the audacity to paint their action as whiter-than-white in the patriotic endeavor then those that praise Dalal al-Maghribi → the heroic Arab Palestinian that hijacked a group of vacationing Israelis and summarily 38 Israeli civilians, including 13 children (who somehow posed a threat to the Fatah faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization).

One can only wonder what must go through the mind of a heroic Arab Palestinian; the brave and fearless Martyrs as the riddled the bodies of the 13 children that were lined-up only feet away.

Dont want to get my hopes up TOO much and think that Trump will be the first president since Kennedy to stand up to the corruption of Israel but who knows? I mean when was the last time a president ever had the guts to say ANYTHING negative TO THEIR FACE? that takes guts.:2up:

PressTV-‘Trump asked Israeli PM if he really cares about peace’
(COMMENT)

In the half century in which these brave and fearless Arab Palestinians that hide themselves among the innocent civilian population in order to provide cover and concealment in the indiscriminate launching of rockets and mortars, the hijacking of commercial passenger liners, the murder and throwing overboard of a wheelchair-bound Meditarrean vacationer, or the intentionally bomb delivers to places, of public use, attacking school bus and bus stops; and of course kidnapping and murder of innocent minors.

It serves no useful purpose to listen to pro-Palestinian factions that claim to be whiter-than-white, yet support by some rationale the actions of the Arab Palestinian Martyrs like Dalal al-Maghribi.

The people of Israel are not perfect, but neither do they prance around like pompous buffoons attempting to round-up others to support them.

Most Respectfully,
R

Do You think this position is radical as well?

edit: RoccoR
 
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RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ LA RAM FAN, et al,

There are always those personalities orbiting around the • Question of Palestine & Future • readily to insult and express in a false sense of wisdom in their dark pompous way → as if their position (and that their compatriots) hold some special place in the ways and means of integrity, truth, and understanding. They make accusations as if their observations and evil ways are somehow vindicated in what they define as truth → and morality is always on their side of the issue. Nowhere are the evil characters more prominent than on the side of the Arab Palestinians. Nowhere else would the use of Jihadism, Deadly Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence be heroic than in the mind's eye of the Arab Palestinian cause. There would be no other group that would have the audacity to paint their action as whiter-than-white in the patriotic endeavor then those that praise Dalal al-Maghribi → the heroic Arab Palestinian that hijacked a group of vacationing Israelis and summarily 38 Israeli civilians, including 13 children (who somehow posed a threat to the Fatah faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization).

One can only wonder what must go through the mind of a heroic Arab Palestinian; the brave and fearless Martyrs as the riddled the bodies of the 13 children that were lined-up only feet away.

Dont want to get my hopes up TOO much and think that Trump will be the first president since Kennedy to stand up to the corruption of Israel but who knows? I mean when was the last time a president ever had the guts to say ANYTHING negative TO THEIR FACE? that takes guts.:2up:

PressTV-‘Trump asked Israeli PM if he really cares about peace’
(COMMENT)

In the half century in which these brave and fearless Arab Palestinians that hide themselves among the innocent civilian population in order to provide cover and concealment in the indiscriminate launching of rockets and mortars, the hijacking of commercial passenger liners, the murder and throwing overboard of a wheelchair-bound Meditarrean vacationer, or the intentionally bomb delivers to places, of public use, attacking school bus and bus stops; and of course kidnapping and murder of innocent minors.

It serves no useful purpose to listen to pro-Palestinian factions that claim to be whiter-than-white, yet support by some rationale the actions of the Arab Palestinian Martyrs like Dalal al-Maghribi.

The people of Israel are not perfect, but neither do they prance around like pompous buffoons attempting to round-up others to support them.

Most Respectfully,
R
So, how are the Palestinians supposed to, or allowed to, resist the occupation.
 
RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ LA RAM FAN, et al,

There are always those personalities orbiting around the • Question of Palestine & Future • readily to insult and express in a false sense of wisdom in their dark pompous way → as if their position (and that their compatriots) hold some special place in the ways and means of integrity, truth, and understanding. They make accusations as if their observations and evil ways are somehow vindicated in what they define as truth → and morality is always on their side of the issue. Nowhere are the evil characters more prominent than on the side of the Arab Palestinians. Nowhere else would the use of Jihadism, Deadly Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence be heroic than in the mind's eye of the Arab Palestinian cause. There would be no other group that would have the audacity to paint their action as whiter-than-white in the patriotic endeavor then those that praise Dalal al-Maghribi → the heroic Arab Palestinian that hijacked a group of vacationing Israelis and summarily 38 Israeli civilians, including 13 children (who somehow posed a threat to the Fatah faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization).

One can only wonder what must go through the mind of a heroic Arab Palestinian; the brave and fearless Martyrs as the riddled the bodies of the 13 children that were lined-up only feet away.

Dont want to get my hopes up TOO much and think that Trump will be the first president since Kennedy to stand up to the corruption of Israel but who knows? I mean when was the last time a president ever had the guts to say ANYTHING negative TO THEIR FACE? that takes guts.:2up:

PressTV-‘Trump asked Israeli PM if he really cares about peace’
(COMMENT)

In the half century in which these brave and fearless Arab Palestinians that hide themselves among the innocent civilian population in order to provide cover and concealment in the indiscriminate launching of rockets and mortars, the hijacking of commercial passenger liners, the murder and throwing overboard of a wheelchair-bound Meditarrean vacationer, or the intentionally bomb delivers to places, of public use, attacking school bus and bus stops; and of course kidnapping and murder of innocent minors.

It serves no useful purpose to listen to pro-Palestinian factions that claim to be whiter-than-white, yet support by some rationale the actions of the Arab Palestinian Martyrs like Dalal al-Maghribi.

The people of Israel are not perfect, but neither do they prance around like pompous buffoons attempting to round-up others to support them.

Most Respectfully,
R

Do You think this position is radical as well?

edit: RoccoR

"The US gave Iraq democracy on a silver platter."

What a dumbfuck.
 
So, how are the Palestinians supposed to, or allowed to, resist the occupation.

Depends which "occupation" you mean.

If you mean the "1948 occupation" of "Palestine" in the form of an self-governing, independent State for the Jewish People -- they CAN'T. There is absolutely no legal or moral grounds to erase or undo the Stste of Israel.

If you mean the "1967 occupation" -- you resist it by making a genuine and lasting peace with your neighbour. You demonstrate your ability to self-govern peacefully. Then you negotiate and sign a peace treaty.
 
So, how are the Palestinians supposed to, or allowed to, resist the occupation.

Depends which "occupation" you mean.

If you mean the "1948 occupation" of "Palestine" in the form of an self-governing, independent State for the Jewish People -- they CAN'T. There is absolutely no legal or moral grounds to erase or undo the Stste of Israel.

If you mean the "1967 occupation" -- you resist it by making a genuine and lasting peace with your neighbour. You demonstrate your ability to self-govern peacefully. Then you negotiate and sign a peace treaty.
The Palestinians have never been offered a peace treaty. They have all been surrender treaties.
 
So, how are the Palestinians supposed to, or allowed to, resist the occupation.

Depends which "occupation" you mean.

If you mean the "1948 occupation" of "Palestine" in the form of an self-governing, independent State for the Jewish People -- they CAN'T. There is absolutely no legal or moral grounds to erase or undo the Stste of Israel.

If you mean the "1967 occupation" -- you resist it by making a genuine and lasting peace with your neighbour. You demonstrate your ability to self-govern peacefully. Then you negotiate and sign a peace treaty.
The Palestinians have never been offered a peace treaty. They have all been surrender treaties.


That would depend on how you define surrender. If "surrender" is to have a self-governing State for the Palestinian people -- um yeah you are going to have to surrender.

A treaty which gives the Palestinians sovereign territory, economic trade, peace is a WIN, not surrender.
 
So, how are the Palestinians supposed to, or allowed to, resist the occupation.

Depends which "occupation" you mean.

If you mean the "1948 occupation" of "Palestine" in the form of an self-governing, independent State for the Jewish People -- they CAN'T. There is absolutely no legal or moral grounds to erase or undo the Stste of Israel.

If you mean the "1967 occupation" -- you resist it by making a genuine and lasting peace with your neighbour. You demonstrate your ability to self-govern peacefully. Then you negotiate and sign a peace treaty.
The Palestinians have never been offered a peace treaty. They have all been surrender treaties.


That would depend on how you define surrender. If "surrender" is to have a self-governing State for the Palestinian people -- um yeah you are going to have to surrender.

A treaty which gives the Palestinians sovereign territory, economic trade, peace is a WIN, not surrender.
The Palestinians have always been expected to negotiate away their rights. That would be surrender.
 
So, how are the Palestinians supposed to, or allowed to, resist the occupation.

Depends which "occupation" you mean.

If you mean the "1948 occupation" of "Palestine" in the form of an self-governing, independent State for the Jewish People -- they CAN'T. There is absolutely no legal or moral grounds to erase or undo the Stste of Israel.

If you mean the "1967 occupation" -- you resist it by making a genuine and lasting peace with your neighbour. You demonstrate your ability to self-govern peacefully. Then you negotiate and sign a peace treaty.
The Palestinians have never been offered a peace treaty. They have all been surrender treaties.


That would depend on how you define surrender. If "surrender" is to have a self-governing State for the Palestinian people -- um yeah you are going to have to surrender.

A treaty which gives the Palestinians sovereign territory, economic trade, peace is a WIN, not surrender.
The Palestinians have always been expected to negotiate away their rights. That would be surrender.


How is holding sovereign territory, being self-governing and living in peace with you neighbor giving up your rights?
 
So, how are the Palestinians supposed to, or allowed to, resist the occupation.

Depends which "occupation" you mean.

If you mean the "1948 occupation" of "Palestine" in the form of an self-governing, independent State for the Jewish People -- they CAN'T. There is absolutely no legal or moral grounds to erase or undo the Stste of Israel.

If you mean the "1967 occupation" -- you resist it by making a genuine and lasting peace with your neighbour. You demonstrate your ability to self-govern peacefully. Then you negotiate and sign a peace treaty.
The Palestinians have never been offered a peace treaty. They have all been surrender treaties.


That would depend on how you define surrender. If "surrender" is to have a self-governing State for the Palestinian people -- um yeah you are going to have to surrender.

A treaty which gives the Palestinians sovereign territory, economic trade, peace is a WIN, not surrender.
The Palestinians have always been expected to negotiate away their rights. That would be surrender.


How is holding sovereign territory, being self-governing and living in peace with you neighbor giving up your rights?
:eusa_doh::eusa_doh::eusa_doh:
 
Depends which "occupation" you mean.

If you mean the "1948 occupation" of "Palestine" in the form of an self-governing, independent State for the Jewish People -- they CAN'T. There is absolutely no legal or moral grounds to erase or undo the Stste of Israel.

If you mean the "1967 occupation" -- you resist it by making a genuine and lasting peace with your neighbour. You demonstrate your ability to self-govern peacefully. Then you negotiate and sign a peace treaty.
The Palestinians have never been offered a peace treaty. They have all been surrender treaties.


That would depend on how you define surrender. If "surrender" is to have a self-governing State for the Palestinian people -- um yeah you are going to have to surrender.

A treaty which gives the Palestinians sovereign territory, economic trade, peace is a WIN, not surrender.
The Palestinians have always been expected to negotiate away their rights. That would be surrender.


How is holding sovereign territory, being self-governing and living in peace with you neighbor giving up your rights?
:eusa_doh::eusa_doh::eusa_doh:


Come on. Answer the question.

How is achieving the supposed goal of sovereign territory, self-government and peace a surrender?
 
Shusha agreed with the question or the arguments in the video?

Yes. I was not agreeing that those positions are radical. They are far from it. They are the most normal positions for people to hold.

My agreement was for the arguments in the video.
 
The Palestinians have never been offered a peace treaty. They have all been surrender treaties.


That would depend on how you define surrender. If "surrender" is to have a self-governing State for the Palestinian people -- um yeah you are going to have to surrender.

A treaty which gives the Palestinians sovereign territory, economic trade, peace is a WIN, not surrender.
The Palestinians have always been expected to negotiate away their rights. That would be surrender.


How is holding sovereign territory, being self-governing and living in peace with you neighbor giving up your rights?
:eusa_doh::eusa_doh::eusa_doh:


Come on. Answer the question.

How is achieving the supposed goal of sovereign territory, self-government and peace a surrender?
In 1988 The Palestinians (the PLO without the approval of the people) offered to cede 78% of Palestine to Israel. Israel rejected that offer and continued to steal more land. There never was a treaty to cede that 78% of Palestine to Israel.

The Palestinians are required to give that up, give up Jerusalem, give up the settlements, give up the right to return, and accept a few bantustans controlled by Israel to be their "state."
 
The Palestinians are required to give that up, give up Jerusalem, give up the settlements, give up the right to return, and accept a few bantustans controlled by Israel to be their "state."
I don't think you're supposed to harsh the hasbara like that.
 
RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ LA RAM FAN, et al,

There are always those personalities orbiting around the • Question of Palestine & Future • readily to insult and express in a false sense of wisdom in their dark pompous way → as if their position (and that their compatriots) hold some special place in the ways and means of integrity, truth, and understanding. They make accusations as if their observations and evil ways are somehow vindicated in what they define as truth → and morality is always on their side of the issue. Nowhere are the evil characters more prominent than on the side of the Arab Palestinians. Nowhere else would the use of Jihadism, Deadly Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence be heroic than in the mind's eye of the Arab Palestinian cause. There would be no other group that would have the audacity to paint their action as whiter-than-white in the patriotic endeavor then those that praise Dalal al-Maghribi → the heroic Arab Palestinian that hijacked a group of vacationing Israelis and summarily 38 Israeli civilians, including 13 children (who somehow posed a threat to the Fatah faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization).

One can only wonder what must go through the mind of a heroic Arab Palestinian; the brave and fearless Martyrs as the riddled the bodies of the 13 children that were lined-up only feet away.

Dont want to get my hopes up TOO much and think that Trump will be the first president since Kennedy to stand up to the corruption of Israel but who knows? I mean when was the last time a president ever had the guts to say ANYTHING negative TO THEIR FACE? that takes guts.:2up:

PressTV-‘Trump asked Israeli PM if he really cares about peace’
(COMMENT)

In the half century in which these brave and fearless Arab Palestinians that hide themselves among the innocent civilian population in order to provide cover and concealment in the indiscriminate launching of rockets and mortars, the hijacking of commercial passenger liners, the murder and throwing overboard of a wheelchair-bound Meditarrean vacationer, or the intentionally bomb delivers to places, of public use, attacking school bus and bus stops; and of course kidnapping and murder of innocent minors.

It serves no useful purpose to listen to pro-Palestinian factions that claim to be whiter-than-white, yet support by some rationale the actions of the Arab Palestinian Martyrs like Dalal al-Maghribi.

The people of Israel are not perfect, but neither do they prance around like pompous buffoons attempting to round-up others to support them.

Most Respectfully,
R

Do You think this position is radical as well?

edit: RoccoR

"The US gave Iraq democracy on a silver platter."

What a dumbfuck.


This "dumbfuck" helped create more stable connections and understandings in the middle east during the last decade than Your Jihadis will ever be capable.

Iraqi and Gaza'stan corruption is not anybody's fault, but their own deeply rooted problem.
I guess You prefer the Hamas and Baath version of democracy -"elections" by eliminating any opposition.

While Israel creates bridges in the neighborhood and helps modernize - Your Jihadi heroes are doing a great job of turning their own Arab brothers against them.

This is what happens when -one feels eternally entitled to sabotage all attempts at creating stability, while demanding their brothers sacrifice the blood of millions for their sick version of "honor"...

They're truly their own worst enemies, and suicidal to the core. :cuckoo:
:dig:
 
RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ LA RAM FAN, et al,

There are always those personalities orbiting around the • Question of Palestine & Future • readily to insult and express in a false sense of wisdom in their dark pompous way → as if their position (and that their compatriots) hold some special place in the ways and means of integrity, truth, and understanding. They make accusations as if their observations and evil ways are somehow vindicated in what they define as truth → and morality is always on their side of the issue. Nowhere are the evil characters more prominent than on the side of the Arab Palestinians. Nowhere else would the use of Jihadism, Deadly Fedayeen Action, Hostile Insurgency Operations, Radicalized Islamic Behaviors, and Asymmetric Violence be heroic than in the mind's eye of the Arab Palestinian cause. There would be no other group that would have the audacity to paint their action as whiter-than-white in the patriotic endeavor then those that praise Dalal al-Maghribi → the heroic Arab Palestinian that hijacked a group of vacationing Israelis and summarily 38 Israeli civilians, including 13 children (who somehow posed a threat to the Fatah faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization).

One can only wonder what must go through the mind of a heroic Arab Palestinian; the brave and fearless Martyrs as the riddled the bodies of the 13 children that were lined-up only feet away.

Dont want to get my hopes up TOO much and think that Trump will be the first president since Kennedy to stand up to the corruption of Israel but who knows? I mean when was the last time a president ever had the guts to say ANYTHING negative TO THEIR FACE? that takes guts.:2up:

PressTV-‘Trump asked Israeli PM if he really cares about peace’
(COMMENT)

In the half century in which these brave and fearless Arab Palestinians that hide themselves among the innocent civilian population in order to provide cover and concealment in the indiscriminate launching of rockets and mortars, the hijacking of commercial passenger liners, the murder and throwing overboard of a wheelchair-bound Meditarrean vacationer, or the intentionally bomb delivers to places, of public use, attacking school bus and bus stops; and of course kidnapping and murder of innocent minors.

It serves no useful purpose to listen to pro-Palestinian factions that claim to be whiter-than-white, yet support by some rationale the actions of the Arab Palestinian Martyrs like Dalal al-Maghribi.

The people of Israel are not perfect, but neither do they prance around like pompous buffoons attempting to round-up others to support them.

Most Respectfully,
R

Do You think this position is radical as well?

edit: RoccoR

"The US gave Iraq democracy on a silver platter."

What a dumbfuck.


This "dumbfuck" helped create more stable connections and understandings in the middle east during the last decade than Your Jihadis will ever be capable.

Iraqi and Gaza'stan corruption is not anybody's fault, but their own deeply rooted problem.
I guess You prefer the Hamas and Baath version of democracy -"elections" by eliminating any opposition.

While Israel creates bridges in the neighborhood and helps modernize - Your Jihadi heroes are doing a great job of turning their own Arab brothers against them.

This is what happens when -one feels eternally entitled to sabotage all attempts at creating stability, while demanding their brothers sacrifice the blood of millions for their sick version of "honor"...

They're truly their own worst enemies, and suicidal to the core. :cuckoo:
:dig:

I have seen his videos before. :290968001256257790-final:
 

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