Shusha
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Yes. It was. Why is it that you insist on ignoring relevant documents like the Mandate for Palestine?
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Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
- Thread starter LA RAM FAN
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Yes. It was. Why is it that you insist on ignoring relevant documents like the Mandate for Palestine?
Shusha
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P F Tinmore
Look you asked whether or not Arab Palestinians had the right to resist. By resist you mean erase that state or Israel and reject the idea that the Jewish people have a right to their own self-determination
The answer is no. Arab Palestinians do not have the right to resist in that way. Bottom line.
Look you asked whether or not Arab Palestinians had the right to resist. By resist you mean erase that state or Israel and reject the idea that the Jewish people have a right to their own self-determination
The answer is no. Arab Palestinians do not have the right to resist in that way. Bottom line.
RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,
Yes, and you haven't got it right yet...
Let's see: 50 years ago, the territories - currently under discussion (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) - were both occupied after the end of a military pursuit of hostile forces.
There are two International Treaties between the Jordanians and Egyptians that put the matter to rest; which dissolved the Armistice Agreements.
............................... "entitled to under international law" ...............................
Most Respectfully,
R
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,
Yes, and you haven't got it right yet...
The rockets did not start until almost 50 years after the occupation.
(COMMENT)The Palestinians are asking for nothing that they are not entitled to under international law.
Let's see: 50 years ago, the territories - currently under discussion (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) - were both occupied after the end of a military pursuit of hostile forces.
✪ The Israelis occupied the West Bank. → Jordanian Sovereignty.........(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
✪ The Israelis occupied the Gaza Strip. → An Egyptian Governorship...(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
✪ The Israelis occupied the Gaza Strip. → An Egyptian Governorship...(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
There are two International Treaties between the Jordanians and Egyptians that put the matter to rest; which dissolved the Armistice Agreements.
............................... "entitled to under international law" ...............................
✪ Please cite for us what the Arab Palestinians are legally demanding.
✪ Please cite us the authority or international law you claim demands the relinquishment.
✪ Please cite us the authority or international law you claim demands the relinquishment.
Most Respectfully,
R
RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al
The 1948 borders for the Government of Palestine were intact under the UN until 15 May.
The All Palestine Government was inferior and had not taken sovereignty over any territory; none whatsoever.
Move ahead to the present day.
Most Respectfully,
R
※→ P F Tinmore, et al
The 1948 borders for the Government of Palestine were intact under the UN until 15 May.
(COMMENT)The Palestinians accepted those borders in their 1948 declaration of independence.
The All Palestine Government was inferior and had not taken sovereignty over any territory; none whatsoever.
Move ahead to the present day.
Most Respectfully,
R
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What was illegal or illegitimate about the Palestinians declaration of independence?RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al
The 1948 borders for the Government of Palestine were intact under the UN until 15 May.
(COMMENT)The Palestinians accepted those borders in their 1948 declaration of independence.
The All Palestine Government was inferior and had not taken sovereignty over any territory; none whatsoever.
Move ahead to the present day.
Most Respectfully,
R
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What was illegal or illegitimate about the Palestinians declaration of independence?RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al
The 1948 borders for the Government of Palestine were intact under the UN until 15 May.
(COMMENT)The Palestinians accepted those borders in their 1948 declaration of independence.
The All Palestine Government was inferior and had not taken sovereignty over any territory; none whatsoever.
Move ahead to the present day.
Most Respectfully,
R
What is Legal or Legitimate about the Palestinians denying the Israelis right to their religious sites? There will be no response
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Egypt and Jordan did not hold sovereignty over those territories.RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,
Yes, and you haven't got it right yet...
The rockets did not start until almost 50 years after the occupation.(COMMENT)The Palestinians are asking for nothing that they are not entitled to under international law.
Let's see: 50 years ago, the territories - currently under discussion (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) - were both occupied after the end of a military pursuit of hostile forces.
✪ The Israelis occupied the West Bank. → Jordanian Sovereignty.........(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
✪ The Israelis occupied the Gaza Strip. → An Egyptian Governorship...(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
There are two International Treaties between the Jordanians and Egyptians that put the matter to rest; which dissolved the Armistice Agreements.
............................... "entitled to under international law" ...............................
✪ Please cite for us what the Arab Palestinians are legally demanding.
✪ Please cite us the authority or international law you claim demands the relinquishment.
Most Respectfully,
R
Also, start @28:00
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Egypt and Jordan did not hold sovereignty over those territories.RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,
Yes, and you haven't got it right yet...
The rockets did not start until almost 50 years after the occupation.(COMMENT)The Palestinians are asking for nothing that they are not entitled to under international law.
Let's see: 50 years ago, the territories - currently under discussion (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) - were both occupied after the end of a military pursuit of hostile forces.
✪ The Israelis occupied the West Bank. → Jordanian Sovereignty.........(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
✪ The Israelis occupied the Gaza Strip. → An Egyptian Governorship...(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
There are two International Treaties between the Jordanians and Egyptians that put the matter to rest; which dissolved the Armistice Agreements.
............................... "entitled to under international law" ...............................
✪ Please cite for us what the Arab Palestinians are legally demanding.
✪ Please cite us the authority or international law you claim demands the relinquishment.
Most Respectfully,
R
Also, start @28:00
They obviously did. Somehow “ International Law” wasn’t an an issue. Still haven’t addressed if the Palestinians have the Right to keep the Israelis from their Holy Sites.
- Dec 6, 2009
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Egypt and Jordan did not hold sovereignty over those territories.RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,
Yes, and you haven't got it right yet...
The rockets did not start until almost 50 years after the occupation.(COMMENT)The Palestinians are asking for nothing that they are not entitled to under international law.
Let's see: 50 years ago, the territories - currently under discussion (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) - were both occupied after the end of a military pursuit of hostile forces.
✪ The Israelis occupied the West Bank. → Jordanian Sovereignty.........(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
✪ The Israelis occupied the Gaza Strip. → An Egyptian Governorship...(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
There are two International Treaties between the Jordanians and Egyptians that put the matter to rest; which dissolved the Armistice Agreements.
............................... "entitled to under international law" ...............................
✪ Please cite for us what the Arab Palestinians are legally demanding.
✪ Please cite us the authority or international law you claim demands the relinquishment.
Most Respectfully,
R
Also, start @28:00
They obviously did. Somehow “ International Law” wasn’t an an issue. Still haven’t addressed if the Palestinians have the Right to keep the Israelis from their Holy Sites.
I believe that is more a result of Israel's war than of any prejudice.
- Feb 22, 2012
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Egypt and Jordan did not hold sovereignty over those territories.RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,
Yes, and you haven't got it right yet...
The rockets did not start until almost 50 years after the occupation.(COMMENT)The Palestinians are asking for nothing that they are not entitled to under international law.
Let's see: 50 years ago, the territories - currently under discussion (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) - were both occupied after the end of a military pursuit of hostile forces.
✪ The Israelis occupied the West Bank. → Jordanian Sovereignty.........(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
✪ The Israelis occupied the Gaza Strip. → An Egyptian Governorship...(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
There are two International Treaties between the Jordanians and Egyptians that put the matter to rest; which dissolved the Armistice Agreements.
............................... "entitled to under international law" ...............................
✪ Please cite for us what the Arab Palestinians are legally demanding.
✪ Please cite us the authority or international law you claim demands the relinquishment.
Most Respectfully,
R
Also, start @28:00
They obviously did. Somehow “ International Law” wasn’t an an issue. Still haven’t addressed if the Palestinians have the Right to keep the Israelis from their Holy Sites.
I believe that is more a result of Israel's war than of any prejudice.
“ Israel’s War” since 1948? If there is “ peace” please tell us now why the Palestinians have Recently declared limits on some Israeli Holy Sites. Just put on a link regarding that issue. Of course this is not addressed ( deflection) and I don’t expect it to be.
RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al
OH WOW, like it matters today.
• The Arab Palestinians via the All Palestine Government (APG) was a puppet regime that had no sovereignty.
• The APG rejected the partition plan, then after the UNPC implemented the Israeli half, the APG comes four months late to claim the entirety of the territory formerly under the Mandate.
• The APG fouled-up the potential for the Arab League invasion, make their claim during the conflict and not a party to the conflict.
Illegal and Illegitimate are the wrong words. The words you should be using untimely, inappropriate, invalid and with no government functions in place in the same way as the Israelis by participating in the Steps Preparatory to Independence. The APG could not even establish a government over the Gaza Strip.
Most Respectfully,
R
※→ P F Tinmore, et al
OH WOW, like it matters today.
(COMMENT)What was illegal or illegitimate about the Palestinians declaration of independence?
• The Arab Palestinians via the All Palestine Government (APG) was a puppet regime that had no sovereignty.
• The APG rejected the partition plan, then after the UNPC implemented the Israeli half, the APG comes four months late to claim the entirety of the territory formerly under the Mandate.
• The APG fouled-up the potential for the Arab League invasion, make their claim during the conflict and not a party to the conflict.
Illegal and Illegitimate are the wrong words. The words you should be using untimely, inappropriate, invalid and with no government functions in place in the same way as the Israelis by participating in the Steps Preparatory to Independence. The APG could not even establish a government over the Gaza Strip.
Most Respectfully,
R
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Egypt and Jordan did not hold sovereignty over those territories.RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,
Yes, and you haven't got it right yet...
The rockets did not start until almost 50 years after the occupation.(COMMENT)The Palestinians are asking for nothing that they are not entitled to under international law.
Let's see: 50 years ago, the territories - currently under discussion (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) - were both occupied after the end of a military pursuit of hostile forces.
✪ The Israelis occupied the West Bank. → Jordanian Sovereignty.........(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
✪ The Israelis occupied the Gaza Strip. → An Egyptian Governorship...(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
There are two International Treaties between the Jordanians and Egyptians that put the matter to rest; which dissolved the Armistice Agreements.
............................... "entitled to under international law" ...............................
✪ Please cite for us what the Arab Palestinians are legally demanding.
✪ Please cite us the authority or international law you claim demands the relinquishment.
Most Respectfully,
R
Also, start @28:00
They obviously did. Somehow “ International Law” wasn’t an an issue. Still haven’t addressed if the Palestinians have the Right to keep the Israelis from their Holy Sites.
I believe that is more a result of Israel's war than of any prejudice.
You’re quite befuddled. From 1948 onward, wars of aggression have been initiated by Arabs-Moslems.
You can pretend that history doesnt exist but pleading ignorance after you have been given the facts simply speaks to your agenda.
During Oblama...Dont want to get my hopes up TOO much and think that Trump will be the first president since Kennedy to stand up to the corruption of Israel but who knows? I mean when was the last time a president ever had the guts to say ANYTHING negative TO THEIR FACE? that takes guts.
PressTV-‘Trump asked Israeli PM if he really cares about peace’
RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,
OK, they are not the same political entity types.
Egypt was a strong Military Governorship. And the Egyptian hold was such that it dissolved the APG.
No matter what the overt political position was on the sovereignty establed by Jordan in 1950, the fact of the matter is that Jordan established the highest level of control, and the nations of the world accepted the Arab Palestinians of the West Bank exercised self-determination.
Most Respectfully,
R
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,
OK, they are not the same political entity types.
(COMMENT)Egypt and Jordan did not hold sovereignty over those territories.Yes, and you haven't got it right yet...
The rockets did not start until almost 50 years after the occupation.(COMMENT)The Palestinians are asking for nothing that they are not entitled to under international law.
Let's see: 50 years ago, the territories - currently under discussion (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) - were both occupied after the end of a military pursuit of hostile forces.
✪ The Israelis occupied the West Bank. → Jordanian Sovereignty.........(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
✪ The Israelis occupied the Gaza Strip. → An Egyptian Governorship...(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
There are two International Treaties between the Jordanians and Egyptians that put the matter to rest; which dissolved the Armistice Agreements.
............................... "entitled to under international law" ...............................
✪ Please cite for us what the Arab Palestinians are legally demanding.
✪ Please cite us the authority or international law you claim demands the relinquishment.
Most Respectfully,
R
Egypt was a strong Military Governorship. And the Egyptian hold was such that it dissolved the APG.
No matter what the overt political position was on the sovereignty establed by Jordan in 1950, the fact of the matter is that Jordan established the highest level of control, and the nations of the world accepted the Arab Palestinians of the West Bank exercised self-determination.
Most Respectfully,
R
RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,
Good Question?
This is the one card the Arab Palestinians have left to play.
It is not a matter of legitimacy with the Arab Palestinians, but a matter of violence. The Strategy is to create such a horrific event for the media that the international community might take some action.
The last cards left to play are Rules 23, 24, and 97.
Most Respectfully,
R
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,
Good Question?
(COMMENT)They obviously did. Somehow “ International Law” wasn’t an issue. Still, haven’t addressed if the Palestinians have the Right to keep the Israelis from their Holy Sites.
This is the one card the Arab Palestinians have left to play.
It is not a matter of legitimacy with the Arab Palestinians, but a matter of violence. The Strategy is to create such a horrific event for the media that the international community might take some action.
The last cards left to play are Rules 23, 24, and 97.
Most Respectfully,
R
- Feb 22, 2012
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RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,
Good Question?
(COMMENT)They obviously did. Somehow “ International Law” wasn’t an issue. Still, haven’t addressed if the Palestinians have the Right to keep the Israelis from their Holy Sites.
This is the one card the Arab Palestinians have left to play.
It is not a matter of legitimacy with the Arab Palestinians, but a matter of violence. The Strategy is to create such a horrific event for the media that the international community might take some action.
The last cards left to play are Rules 23, 24, and 97.
Most Respectfully,
R
- Feb 22, 2012
- 9,554
- 2,804
- 160
RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,
Good Question?
(COMMENT)They obviously did. Somehow “ International Law” wasn’t an issue. Still, haven’t addressed if the Palestinians have the Right to keep the Israelis from their Holy Sites.
This is the one card the Arab Palestinians have left to play.
It is not a matter of legitimacy with the Arab Palestinians, but a matter of violence. The Strategy is to create such a horrific event for the media that the international community might take some action.
The last cards left to play are Rules 23, 24, and 97.
Most Respectfully,
R
Thank you! One more question the Pro Pal Kool Aid Drinkers will not address; LEGALLY what gives the Palestinians the Right to demand a highway between Gaza and the W. Bank ( obviously within the borders) and the demand that they control it? The answer is Nothing !
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RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,
OK, they are not the same political entity types.
(COMMENT)Egypt and Jordan did not hold sovereignty over those territories.Yes, and you haven't got it right yet...
The rockets did not start until almost 50 years after the occupation.(COMMENT)The Palestinians are asking for nothing that they are not entitled to under international law.
Let's see: 50 years ago, the territories - currently under discussion (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) - were both occupied after the end of a military pursuit of hostile forces.
✪ The Israelis occupied the West Bank. → Jordanian Sovereignty.........(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
✪ The Israelis occupied the Gaza Strip. → An Egyptian Governorship...(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
There are two International Treaties between the Jordanians and Egyptians that put the matter to rest; which dissolved the Armistice Agreements.
............................... "entitled to under international law" ...............................
✪ Please cite for us what the Arab Palestinians are legally demanding.
✪ Please cite us the authority or international law you claim demands the relinquishment.
Most Respectfully,
R
Egypt was a strong Military Governorship. And the Egyptian hold was such that it dissolved the APG.
No matter what the overt political position was on the sovereignty establed by Jordan in 1950, the fact of the matter is that Jordan established the highest level of control, and the nations of the world accepted the Arab Palestinians of the West Bank exercised self-determination.
Most Respectfully,
R
It doesn't matter. Neither held sovereignty over the territories. They were occupied Palestinian territories as they still are today.Egypt was a strong Military Governorship. And the Egyptian hold was such that it dissolved the APG.
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.RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,
OK, they are not the same political entity types.
(COMMENT)Egypt and Jordan did not hold sovereignty over those territories.Yes, and you haven't got it right yet...
The rockets did not start until almost 50 years after the occupation.(COMMENT)The Palestinians are asking for nothing that they are not entitled to under international law.
Let's see: 50 years ago, the territories - currently under discussion (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) - were both occupied after the end of a military pursuit of hostile forces.
✪ The Israelis occupied the West Bank. → Jordanian Sovereignty.........(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
✪ The Israelis occupied the Gaza Strip. → An Egyptian Governorship...(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
There are two International Treaties between the Jordanians and Egyptians that put the matter to rest; which dissolved the Armistice Agreements.
............................... "entitled to under international law" ...............................
✪ Please cite for us what the Arab Palestinians are legally demanding.
✪ Please cite us the authority or international law you claim demands the relinquishment.
Most Respectfully,
R
Egypt was a strong Military Governorship. And the Egyptian hold was such that it dissolved the APG.
No matter what the overt political position was on the sovereignty establed by Jordan in 1950, the fact of the matter is that Jordan established the highest level of control, and the nations of the world accepted the Arab Palestinians of the West Bank exercised self-determination.
Most Respectfully,
RIt doesn't matter. Neither held sovereignty over the territories. They were occupied Palestinian territories as they still are today.Egypt was a strong Military Governorship. And the Egyptian hold was such that it dissolved the APG.
- Dec 6, 2009
- 78,438
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Egypt and Jordan did not hold sovereignty over those territories.RE: Trump asks Bibi if he REALLY wants peace. yahoo!!!
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,
Yes, and you haven't got it right yet...
The rockets did not start until almost 50 years after the occupation.(COMMENT)The Palestinians are asking for nothing that they are not entitled to under international law.
Let's see: 50 years ago, the territories - currently under discussion (the West Bank and Gaza Strip) - were both occupied after the end of a military pursuit of hostile forces.
✪ The Israelis occupied the West Bank. → Jordanian Sovereignty.........(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
✪ The Israelis occupied the Gaza Strip. → An Egyptian Governorship...(NOT Arab Palestinian Territory)
There are two International Treaties between the Jordanians and Egyptians that put the matter to rest; which dissolved the Armistice Agreements.
............................... "entitled to under international law" ...............................
✪ Please cite for us what the Arab Palestinians are legally demanding.
✪ Please cite us the authority or international law you claim demands the relinquishment.
Most Respectfully,
R
Also, start @28:00
They obviously did. Somehow “ International Law” wasn’t an an issue. Still haven’t addressed if the Palestinians have the Right to keep the Israelis from their Holy Sites.
I believe that is more a result of Israel's war than of any prejudice.
You’re quite befuddled. From 1948 onward, wars of aggression have been initiated by Arabs-Moslems.
You can pretend that history doesnt exist but pleading ignorance after you have been given the facts simply speaks to your agenda.
When did the Palestinians start a war?
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