Top 4 Obamacare Complaints

[g5000]

Complaint #4: My employer is raising my premiums because of Obamacare

Before ObamaCare, what was the excuse of employers for raising your premiums year after year after year after year?

My employer didn't raise my premiums year after year after year.

Personal anecdotes aren't worth shit.

Here's the facts:

The cost of providing health care benefits to employees rose by just 4.1% this year, the smallest increase in 15 years, according to a survey by human resources consultant Mercer.

And employers are expecting to see another modest increase of 5% next year, the survey of 2,800 companies found. That's a far cry from the beginning of the decade, when employers reported increases of 10% to nearly 15% a year. Last year, benefit costs rose by 6.1%.

Health insurance premiums see smallest increase in 15 years - Nov. 14, 2012

 

[g5000]

Complaint #4: My employer is raising my premiums because of Obamacare

Before ObamaCare, what was the excuse of employers for raising your premiums year after year after year after year?

At my former employer, during my 13 years, we changed health care providers 7 times. Each change saw a raising premium, bigger deductible and less services.

There was no ObamaCare back then..

And that was the experience of most Americans who had employer-sponsored health insurance.

The GOP decided that was okay.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Before ObamaCare, what was the excuse of employers for raising your premiums year after year after year after year?

My employer didn't raise my premiums year after year after year.

Personal anecdotes aren't worth shit.

Here's the facts:

The cost of providing health care benefits to employees rose by just 4.1% this year, the smallest increase in 15 years, according to a survey by human resources consultant Mercer.

And employers are expecting to see another modest increase of 5% next year, the survey of 2,800 companies found. That's a far cry from the beginning of the decade, when employers reported increases of 10% to nearly 15% a year. Last year, benefit costs rose by 6.1%.

Health insurance premiums see smallest increase in 15 years - Nov. 14, 2012

I can only speak for my own situation, not others, and what I told you is also a fact.

 

[Sallow]

Do tell.

What about the ACA is "marxist".

Include some proof as well..in the form of links.

Thanks in advance.

It's a redistribution of wealth from young to old.

You probably first need to understand exactly what Marxism is before commenting.

 

[g5000]

One North Carolina reader was upset to learn her current $267 a month plan was being canceled and the cheapest option on the exchange would cost her family $750 a month. They don't qualify for a subsidy.

"Obamacare is a nightmare for my family," she wrote.

an example of how the middle class is being destroyed by Obama and his marxist redistribution program....

Do tell.

What about the ACA is "marxist".

Include some proof as well..in the form of links.

Let's see...

1) To access an insurance company, many people now have to go through a government gatekeeper.

2) To be able to sell insurance to those people, the insurance provider cannot provide the customer with a wide range of options they can afford. They must provide what the government tells them to provide at a cost the goverment says they can charge.

3) If an insurance company makes more than the government feels they deserve to make, they have to return that money to their customers.

4) The government is forcing you to buy insurance or pay a fine.

Thanks in advance.

You're welcome.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Before ObamaCare, what was the excuse of employers for raising your premiums year after year after year after year?

At my former employer, during my 13 years, we changed health care providers 7 times. Each change saw a raising premium, bigger deductible and less services.

There was no ObamaCare back then..

And that was the experience of most Americans who had employer-sponsored health insurance.

The GOP decided that was okay.

And what exactly is it they should have done? When has the government interfering in the market ever benefited anyone? Nine times out of ten they make shit worse than it already is, like we're seeing with ObamaCare. It was government interference in the health care market that caused the rising costs in the first place over the past 30 years. The free market in the health care industry was virtually obliterated years ago and now there is no cost containment.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Do tell.

What about the ACA is "marxist".

Include some proof as well..in the form of links.

Thanks in advance.

It's a redistribution of wealth from young to old.

You probably first need to understand exactly what Marxism is before commenting.

I know exactly what Marxism is. I'm a highly educated man. I also realize you are a supporter of it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

an example of how the middle class is being destroyed by Obama and his marxist redistribution program....

Do tell.

What about the ACA is "marxist".

Include some proof as well..in the form of links.

Let's see...

1) To access an insurance company, many people now have to go through a government gatekeeper.

2) To be able to sell insurance to those people, the insurance provider cannot provide the customer with a wide range of options they can afford. They must provide what the government tells them to provide at a cost the goverment says they can charge.

3) If an insurance company makes more than the government feels they deserve to make, they have to return that money to their customers.

4) The government is forcing you to buy insurance or pay a fine.

Thanks in advance.

You're welcome.

Gee golly, I may just have to rep you for this post, g5!

 

[Yurt]

Complaint #1: I can't log in

Complaint #2: My info's not right

Complaint #3: The costs are too high

Complaint #4: My employer is raising my premiums because of Obamacare

Top 4 Obamacare Complaints - Yahoo Finance

Complaint #5: Yurt is a chronic complainer...

nice, whine about me and ignore the thread topic, which btw...i did not write

 

[Foxfyre]

My employer didn't raise my premiums year after year after year.

Personal anecdotes aren't worth shit.

Here's the facts:

The cost of providing health care benefits to employees rose by just 4.1% this year, the smallest increase in 15 years, according to a survey by human resources consultant Mercer.

And employers are expecting to see another modest increase of 5% next year, the survey of 2,800 companies found. That's a far cry from the beginning of the decade, when employers reported increases of 10% to nearly 15% a year. Last year, benefit costs rose by 6.1%.

Health insurance premiums see smallest increase in 15 years - Nov. 14, 2012

I can only speak for my own situation, not others, and what I told you is also a fact.

Also, the article is almost a year old and is testimony that had the government left insurance alone, we could be better of without Obamacare. However, the money paragraphs in that article are these:

But the more modest increases aren't because doctors or insurers are charging less. Faced with the 2014 implementation of health care reform, employers are making a greater effort to control their costs by shifting more of the expense and risk on to their employees.

Increasingly, employers are offering plans that charge significantly lower premiums but require employees to cover more out-of-pocket costs like higher deductibles. These consumer-directed health plans, or CDHPs, carry premiums that are about 20% less than other types of plans, making them much more affordable for employers, Mercer said

 

[Foxfyre]

And is anybody else picking up on the fact that the Obama worshippers are simply beside themselves that the personal testimonies some of us are giving here might soil the shining symbol of what the Obama Administration is all about--socialized medicine among other things? Why else would they accuse us of lying?

 

[Sallow]

an example of how the middle class is being destroyed by Obama and his marxist redistribution program....

Do tell.

What about the ACA is "marxist".

Include some proof as well..in the form of links.

Thanks in advance.

It is Marxist because it exists on the concept that the haves according to their means will provide for the have nots according to their needs.

That's a pretty unique take.

So basically what you are saying, if we can use this "definition" as a standard..

Is that every single form of government is "Marxist".

Well except Anarchy.

Because to a large extent, every government does this..through taxation.

However, Marxism, in it's classical form doesn't really need to do this because it doesn't need to engage in taxation.

 

[thereisnospoon]

So far the results of Obamacare for me and mine:

1. Our premiums have been increased by about 38%.

2. Our deductibles and copays have been roughy doubled.

3. Numerous things that were once covered no longer are. Absolutely nothing that wasn't covered before has been added.

4. Because so many clinics, hospitals, and doctors offices are being forced to lay off staff, there is less sanitation, waits for service are far longer, and there is increased consolidation that is not to the patient's advantage.

5. My hubbie's doctor that he dearly loves is taking early retirement because he can no longer stomach the mountain of increased red tape, restrictions, and stupid rules imposed by Obamacare. And this is happening more and more. Among the 10 different specialists that my elderly aunt and uncle are seeing for numerous medical problems, one--count him ONE--is American born.

6. And on top of the government website woes, there is this in the small print: privacy of personal and medical information cannot be guaranteed.

But this is the greatest thing to happen in America since sliced bread, yes?

After 33 years as a family physician, our family doctor left the industry.
He told me the main reason was all the complexities of Obamacare.
As of yet, we have no seen anything from my wife's employer regarding changes to the medical insurance.
If we get through the current enrollment period unscathed, that is one more year of affordable insurance. What the future holds is a mystery.

 

[Claudette]

Complaint #4: My employer is raising my premiums because of Obamacare

Before ObamaCare, what was the excuse of employers for raising your premiums year after year after year after year?

My employer didn't raise my premiums year after year after year. In fact, a couple of years ago my premium actually slightly decreased.

Next year, however, they are going up 15.2% across the board at my company.

My premium went up this year. Not much but up.

In 2015 anything you pay for your HC coverage will be considered income and will be taxable.

Premiums will go up across the board.

Looks like those with hc coverage are going to be gouged to pay for those without.

Oh wait. I forgot. Its a tax. Never mind.

 

[Foxfyre]

Before ObamaCare, what was the excuse of employers for raising your premiums year after year after year after year?

My employer didn't raise my premiums year after year after year. In fact, a couple of years ago my premium actually slightly decreased.

Next year, however, they are going up 15.2% across the board at my company.

My premium went up this year. Not much but up.

In 2015 anything you pay for your HC coverage will be considered income and will be taxable.

Premiums will go up across the board.

Yes, Obamacare will likely go down in history as the largest single tax ever imposed on the American people. And they can no longer deny it is a tax because they had to argue that it was one in order to get the Supreme Court to say that Obamacare is legal.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Complaint #1: I can't log in

Complaint #2: My info's not right

Complaint #3: The costs are too high

Complaint #4: My employer is raising my premiums because of Obamacare

Top 4 Obamacare Complaints - Yahoo Finance

Complaint #5: Yurt is a chronic complainer...

Why don't you address the issue at hand? Is it because it is easier to dismiss it because the problems with the Obamacare mess fall outside the narrative?
The only people who benefit from this are those who will get it for next to nothing....off the backs of the taxpayers....Bullshit..
If you think this battle is over, you should think again.

 

[Foxfyre]

The increase in our health insurance premiums would be pocket change for some of you guys, but for people on modest fixed retirement incomes like us, it is quite painful. Most especially when we get a whole lot less healthcare for the dollar expended than we did before and we are losing the doctors that we most trusted.

 

[g5000]

At my former employer, during my 13 years, we changed health care providers 7 times. Each change saw a raising premium, bigger deductible and less services.

There was no ObamaCare back then..

And that was the experience of most Americans who had employer-sponsored health insurance.

The GOP decided that was okay.

And what exactly is it they should have done? When has the government interfering in the market ever benefited anyone? Nine times out of ten they make shit worse than it already is, like we're seeing with ObamaCare. It was government interference in the health care market that caused the rising costs in the first place over the past 30 years. The free market in the health care industry was virtually obliterated years ago and now there is no cost containment.

The GOP should have put a plan on the table along these lines:

1. Raise the Medicare eligibility age to 70, and then index it to 9 percent of the population. We are living decades longer than our ancestors, we should be working longer.

2. Get government OUT of the healthcare business as much as possible. It is completely fucked up the government is in the healthcare business AND gets to write the rules affecting its private sector competitors.

3. Eliminate the tax exemption for employer-sponsored health insurance. Employer-sponsored health insurance bends the cost of healthcare up, and it should be discouraged as much as possible.


I should be buying my health insurance the same way I buy my auto, home, and life insurance. If I lose my job, I don't automatically lose my auto, home, or life insurance.

 

[thereisnospoon]

One North Carolina reader was upset to learn her current $267 a month plan was being canceled and the cheapest option on the exchange would cost her family $750 a month. They don't qualify for a subsidy.

"Obamacare is a nightmare for my family," she wrote.

an example of how the middle class is being destroyed by Obama and his marxist redistribution program....

I kind of don't believe these sob stories. They just don't sound credible. They do sound contrived.

Nobody cares what you believe. The accounts are true and factual.
Tough shit.

 

[Mustang]

Complaint #1: I can't log in

Complaint #2: My info's not right

Complaint #3: The costs are too high

Complaint #4: My employer is raising my premiums because of Obamacare

Top 4 Obamacare Complaints - Yahoo Finance

Many conservatives will complain in lock step fashion about Obamacare based on little more than rumor and in uendo. A good portion of these people aren't covered by any kind of healthcare or are paying exorbitant fees.

At some point, probably late at night, and probably cajoled by his wife who's the one who has to try to stretch the dollars every month, middle class conservatives are going to investigate the rates and plans for the first time on their own. My strong bet is that they're going to find a significant savings over what they're paying now, OR they'll find that they can afford health insurance for the first time in years or maybe the first time in their lives. That's when they'll face a decision as to whether to sign up or not. If they have at least as much sense as God gave a goat, they'll take advantage of something that will save them a lot of money (and maybe even their lives some day).

That's when they'll face another choice. Do they tell people, or do they keep it a secret that they signed up?