Tonight is Passover- Pesach Sameach

[irosie91]

Jews were never in Egypt except to go there to work and for food, you were never slaves, no exodus.

from the catechism whore? does Francis
know?. I have known lots of jews who lived
in Egypt----a few sorta distant relatives. There are some "borrow" words from Egypt in classical Hebrew----also some baby names.
These phenomena indicate, at the very least,
some significant residence there. Did TROY
ever exist? ask your catechism whore

Hey in the NT jews said they were never slaves, and there is no archeological evidence of any group of people spending 40 years between Gaza and Egypt.

oh I don't remember that part of the NT----I do recall that Jesus is ENDLESSLY depicted
as DOING THE SEDER------he was LYING?

You know one of the wonderful confirmations of Christ is how absolutely batcrap Christian holidays drive the wicked. I mean batcrap raving angry. On boards, forums and sites like this everywhere, on Christmas and Easter, you folks just can't wait to lance your seething boils.

You know there's a reason for that.

100%.

Even more telling is that most of these so called Jews don’t even believe in the God of Abraham.

huh? those 'so called jews' are doing what? Vandalizing your jelly beans?

 

[irosie91]

Remove the veil, and don't be oblivious to the claims on the slain lamb of passover and the symbolism of that claim to be the passover lamb.
First off: passover was of the first born, the first born Of the Egyptians must die. =Lucifer the first claimed messiah (learned his forbidden maggi and underworld teachings in Egypt) we are told to pass this imposter by as he is an idol god.
Secondly; The lamb on passover is representing the Egyptian idol god which was a lamb, they slayed it to mock & humiliate the Egyptian idol worship in hopes of getting kicked out of Egypt=the lamb is bad not a good thing. You are saying we are saved by removing the idol god Jesus who was the sin itself not the salvation from sin. Thus removing Lucifer the first born we are saved from his sin and our sins, that worship in Lucifer Jesus brings.
Brilliant use of the Passover lamb without knowing the Passover story or why the Egyptian influenced christ was sentenced on Passover.
Pesach Sameach
(Happy Passover).

You don’t find it odd that instead of celebrating your tradition you use it to attack another’s?

What’s wrong with you?

I missed it----where was the attack and where was the LACK OF CELEBRATION?

 

[irosie91]

Jews were never in Egypt except to go there to work and for food, you were never slaves, no exodus.

from the catechism whore? does Francis
know?. I have known lots of jews who lived
in Egypt----a few sorta distant relatives. There are some "borrow" words from Egypt in classical Hebrew----also some baby names.
These phenomena indicate, at the very least,
some significant residence there. Did TROY
ever exist? ask your catechism whore

Is Penny that old?

To have born witness to such events?

what "events" ?

 

[HaShev]

You don’t find it odd that instead of celebrating your tradition you use it to attack another’s?

What’s wrong with you?

Ummmm you admitted I was celebrating the mocking the lamb idol worship and trying to get kicked out like my ancestors did as is the story of Passover. *L*
But also someone lead the conversation there to be answered, as it seems her preacher danced around all the fulfilled verses the character had about the first fallen false- imposter messiah.
Education on the borrowed and masked mythologies of Baal and of Bible verses is permissable in the theology forum least you want to censor discussion, because you can't defend your fake good news?
Now to answer your other post that followed you said:
>>"matzo symbolizes redemption [in Hebrew=HaSheva] and freedom(by the Liberator)"
Which your post eludes to what I'm doing as does the commentary on Isaiah I posted in another thread.
Sources:In "Isaiah Commentary": (IQSb,v 20-29) is a Blessing of the Prince of the Congregation (Archangel Michael), referring to the Triumphant Davidic Messiah as the same. Also regarding Michael as liberator:
"He’ll Proclaim liberty to the captives" (Isaiah lxi,I)
Ezra 1 and Isaiah 44-45 the HaSheva=redeemer is the one who battles with the Persian prince and King Cyrus' heart to do the right thing in gathering the Jews and rebuilding the Temple and Dan 10 tells you who that redeemer is by first & last name.
Jeremiah 23:5-6, Isaiah 51:9, Isaiah 59;19, Is.11:4, Isaiah 25:8
The Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did Israel(Is.52:13-53:12 combined with Dan 12:1-4).
Enjoy your Ishtar egg!
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Your religion is hating Christianity and Christians.

I doubt very seriously if you even believe in God at all. Most Jews don’t.

Reflect for a second;
Where are you any different then the Dems censoring speach, thinking you are the only one with rights while restricting mine, deflect your hatred as being mine, blaming and demonizing me, because you have no answers, no solutions and only can add to the problems? Tell me you can't see your reflection in emulated behavior?
Your version of Russia Russia Russia is responding to my commentary as being Talmud Talmud Talmud even when posting Historical fact and NT verses. Your version of Collusion is saying "all you Jews" don't believe in your idol god. Your version of obstruction is when I keep you from a lying commentary. Your good news is Fake News, Rome was CNN and they controlled the narrative which made haters of the abused puppets they mastered. So if you can see this problem in Politics Today, why can't you put 2+2 together and see the same political struggles and cause and affect behaviors that existed for ages (hence my battle of the ages post in the Politica forum)?
How many times do I have to say learn from reflecting back and studying emulations/similarities.
If teaching and straightening the bent is hate to you, then you are destined to fall.

I don’t hate you. I hate what you do. Big difference.

I’m not censoring you. I am calling out what you are doing. Big difference.

I am not demonizing you. I am demonizing the subordination of religion. Big difference.

Socialism has always sought to subordinate the dominant religion of the land. And you believe I am the one acting like the left?

Do you believe God exists?

you said
>>I don’t hate you. I hate what you do
Yet isn't that hypocracy that you claim a difference, but never recognize that difference when reflected back?
When Rabbis discuss Torah they do with fervor and argue over it, but are still friends after. You being passionate about your beliefs feel threatened when challenged, so you see it as hate when someone who uses that hest of judgement can skim the impurities off the top and be left more pure thus see that same judgement as love and dedication.
Your subjective opinion on love/ hate has to do with human ego(pride) and growth and maturity. This is why it says you have to approach it like a new born child in innocence and readiness to learn without such hangups that stunt our developement.
This is also why it says in
Bible verses like in Isaiah and later rehashed by Luke and Thomas declare : "the end will be like a woman giving birth". This means the end of the age will be painful, what you're told and shown will be painful, the transformation will be painful, but as a child being born what will come from this is a beautiful new birth. A new beginning will be born from this straightening of the path and the painful lessons learned through this transformation.The scrolls warned about recognizing the task of the messenger:Hymn 14: "..they let fly those poisonous darts, vipers venom against which there is no charm;" (in other words countering or protecting from this behavior, or exposing it, will not seem gracious)1QM v, 1-2 (not to be confused with 1QM 1-2)Mentions:little room to act as the Royal Messiah while battling the Sons of Darkness. (Busy fighting through the smoke screens and deception before he can do his Messiah Roles), then it says:"God himself is the supreme agent of salvation and after him in importance is Michael." People shouldRead hymns 12,13,& 14 in the scrolls that can be found online or in this forum searching my Hymn posts.

 

[HaShev]

ok this will really turn up the refiners fire in here, if you can't stand the heat best get out now, because the birth pangs are about to contract something intense with my oldie but goodie post on applicable distaste for the fallen.
Luciferians can't justify their devotion to the fallen one nor refute anything said, so they resort to calling hate for their Satanism as being angry and hateful (sort of like in politics with hating their corruption), even if using their own texts they are willing to throw their word under the bus (sort of like in politics throwing their own policies under the bus) and accidentally call that angry and hateful if it's a means to distract the facts they can't debate.
When Luciferians call you angry and hateful towards Lucifer they are through a double negative complimenting you and saying you are being like Mike, the overturner and Shiloh.
According to Luciferians the refiners fire is angry and mean, G0d must be cruel cause they say his world is cruel, but from what logic are they going by?
With love like this who needs enemas.
Christianity loves people so much that they killed Millions of Jews and spent Millions of Dollars to convert them to the same supposed God.
(*proof it's not the same God*)
Christianity loves humanity so much that they invented some of the most sadistic torture devices used to convert people to their god, the same venom they say radicals today are evil for doing.
Did Jesus prefer tall people???

Then why did the RCC find it necessary to use the
rack and other stretch the body torture devices to get people to submit to their idol which is supposed to have the truth or power to not need coaxing?

Everyone has seen "the RACK" in movies:
The rollers of this RACK pulled the victim's wrists and ankles in opposite directions to tear his body apart. A spiked drum might be installed to disembowel the face-downward victim.

Torture was enthusiastically applied by early Church officials and noblemen in their employ for four reasons:
To force confessions or secret information from those accused of heresy or witchcraft, whether guilty or innocent;
To punish or discourage dissent and intellectual freedom;
To persuade Jews, Muslims, and other non-believers to accept Christianity; and
To enjoy the sadistic pleasure of inflicting agony, including experimenting with newly devised or perfected techniques of torture.

Devices used by the Church:
the foot was fitted into an oversized COPPER BOOT, boiling oil was slowly poured into the boot to strip the flesh from the bones.

There was a device called the CROCODILE SHEARS
where the males private parts were placed in the eight-inch jaws of tubular iron shapped like CROCODILE jaws with teeth, heated red-hot, enclosed it and then burned to a cinder before tore it off entirely.

another device of the Church:
was the infamous viselike FOOT PRESS
which was slowly tightened by the crank to crush feet between its solid iron plates, which were lined with hundreds of razor-sharp spikes to make the torture even more intense.

More sadistic torture could be found in the way they would devise FOOT ROASTING, which was the favorite torture of the Spanish Inquisition. Immobilized in the stocks, the soles of the victim's bare feet were thickly basted with lard and slowly broiled over red-hot coals.

There was something called an INSTEP BORER was an iron boot bound around the victim's bare foot. Turning the crank slowly plunged a razor-sharp iron spike through the center of the foot. Proof that the Roman torture of crucifixion that's been so taught about does not affect ones judgment to go and repeat such horrible acts.

There was also a bench held which victim immobile while he was slowly SKINNED ALIVE with a scalpel-like instrument. Salt was rubbed into the raw flesh to make for a more horrifying experience.

There was one item which looked like those late 1800 ice grabers which they used to rip womans breasts off.

While they also had toothed iron TESTICLE CRUSHERS slowly squeezed the victim's private part until they were destroyed.

Rev 13:15 ....and to cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain.

Christianity is so loving that it abuses people created by their god with extra y chromozones, blaming them for what their god designed in them.
Christianity is so loving that it says handicaped people have demons in them that need casting out.
Christianity loves the Creator and Creation so much that it calls the God of this creation their adversary (satan) and the paradise in death (opposite the Creator's creation) their salvation.
Christianity loves the world so much that it lead the world to worship the fallen Lucifer instead of the Moshiach.
Christianity loves the world so much that it kept the world from it's Central source of teaching and influence that would eminate from the Temple.
Christianity bitched and moaned about the Vatican authority yet loves the world so much that it allowed that Roman authority to deceive the world and continue it's rule and supression of the Moshiach's kingdom.

Sample The Love of Jesus:
Jesus hated families (Luke 8:19-21,Luke 14:26,33,Luke 18:29-30, Matt 10:34-37), hated life (1 John 2:15-17) and this earth and mankind (2 Peter 3:10, Mat 10: 34-40 & Thomas 16, 2 Thessalonians 1:8), hated the Pharisee , hated Woman (1 Cor. 11, 1 Timothy 2:11-15 & all over the book of Thomas), hated his brethren (seen by what he caused to them), hated people with disabilities(Mark 9:14-19,Matt 9:32-33, 12:22 & Luke 11:14)
hated gentiles (Matt15:26), hated his own chosen town of Capernaum (Mat.11:23),
thus must not have Knoweth G-d according to 1John 4:8

If hate is simply directed at the wickedness of their ways and not the individual or group personally, and if it had in mind bringing that person or group to be where they should be, then there would be no conflict through emotions. Most hate that you see in this world has nothing to do with hating their ways and wanting them improved or perfected, but rather emotional reactions to being envious, or threatened.
And so they feel inadequate towards those they despise and thus hating the person or group rather then their ways you have issues with.
But seeing this behavior trait is not enough to solve the hate we see in this world today.
We must find the root causes leading up to these feelings of insecurity and jealous fear.
IN the case of cultures hating other cultures, the root cause is the closed society they have that causes disparity in living which eventually causes these feelings thus behavior patterns.

IN the case of hate in our children it's root cause can be the pressures they face today like peer pressure. As well this can be a root cause for some adults who's job security, financial security and stressful fast paced society can be a root cause of displaced emotions towards those they see living larger and easier then they.
THis is probably why people like Bill Gates become hated for no reason except that he is enveyed for all that he has and achieved.
DO the Politicians hate his ways of dealing in business when they go after him or are they jealous that they don't have what he has?
If the Politicans stuck to just hating his transgressions in doing business then the solution would be changing those ways and the result would not have been bringing the rest of the business world and financial market thus economy down with him as they went on that witch hunt to get him just to attack him personally with no vision of correcting and solving the problem.
So what happened, the whole business world was riddled with REAL unethical practices which caused markets to collapse through fear and instability and lack of trust. This all occured because the gov't was more hateful of a person and not a practice as a whole thus nobody learned a lesson and unethical business practices remained unchecked till disaster struck the financial markets.
The hate we see in this world does the same thing, it attacks people on a personal level without vision of solving issues thus the result is more harm then good bringing down the rest of society with it's error of it's ways.

 

[ding]

oh I don't remember that part of the NT----I do recall that Jesus is ENDLESSLY depicted
as DOING THE SEDER------he was LYING?

You know one of the wonderful confirmations of Christ is how absolutely batcrap Christian holidays drive the wicked. I mean batcrap raving angry. On boards, forums and sites like this everywhere, on Christmas and Easter, you folks just can't wait to lance your seething boils.

You know there's a reason for that.

100%.

Even more telling is that most of these so called Jews don’t even believe in the God of Abraham.

How many G-ds are there? In your mindset?

There is only one Creator.

How many do you believe there are?

Now that's different. And I asked you.

And I answered you. One.

Now I am asking you the same question.

How many G-ds are there?

 

[ding]

Says the lady who told us a wild story about Russian collusion and a news source that had so many fake and rediculous stories on the same made up conspiracy.
Aren't you tired of being COMICALLY wrong all the time?
If so, change news sources.
I didn't read the link, but your synopsis made me think Omar was the contributer for the article.
Have a Happy Ishtar day and word of advice, don't eat the hidden candy, you never know if it's a recently hidden egg or one from years ago that they never found. I'm just saying if it's not a Reeces, is it really worth the risk?

lol... what would you do with the hidden matzo if you ever found it?

“...matzo symbolizes redemption and freedom, but it is also lechem oni, "poor man's bread". Thus it serves as a reminder to be humble, and to not forget what life was like in servitude. Also, leaven symbolizes corruption and pride as leaven "puffs up". Eating the "bread of affliction" is both a lesson in humility and an act that enhances the appreciation of freedom...”

Matzo - Wikipedia

It tastes nice. Especially the Hillel Sandwich.

Why wouldn’t it?

Daft question.

Seems appropriate for a daft response.

 

[ding]

from the catechism whore? does Francis
know?. I have known lots of jews who lived
in Egypt----a few sorta distant relatives. There are some "borrow" words from Egypt in classical Hebrew----also some baby names.
These phenomena indicate, at the very least,
some significant residence there. Did TROY
ever exist? ask your catechism whore

Hey in the NT jews said they were never slaves, and there is no archeological evidence of any group of people spending 40 years between Gaza and Egypt.

oh I don't remember that part of the NT----I do recall that Jesus is ENDLESSLY depicted
as DOING THE SEDER------he was LYING?

You know one of the wonderful confirmations of Christ is how absolutely batcrap Christian holidays drive the wicked. I mean batcrap raving angry. On boards, forums and sites like this everywhere, on Christmas and Easter, you folks just can't wait to lance your seething boils.

You know there's a reason for that.

100%.

Even more telling is that most of these so called Jews don’t even believe in the God of Abraham.

huh? those 'so called jews' are doing what? Vandalizing your jelly beans?

I’m not sure what that has to do with most Jews being atheists

Seriously, why are so many Jews atheists?

Why are you an atheist?

 

[ding]

Remove the veil, and don't be oblivious to the claims on the slain lamb of passover and the symbolism of that claim to be the passover lamb.
First off: passover was of the first born, the first born Of the Egyptians must die. =Lucifer the first claimed messiah (learned his forbidden maggi and underworld teachings in Egypt) we are told to pass this imposter by as he is an idol god.
Secondly; The lamb on passover is representing the Egyptian idol god which was a lamb, they slayed it to mock & humiliate the Egyptian idol worship in hopes of getting kicked out of Egypt=the lamb is bad not a good thing. You are saying we are saved by removing the idol god Jesus who was the sin itself not the salvation from sin. Thus removing Lucifer the first born we are saved from his sin and our sins, that worship in Lucifer Jesus brings.
Brilliant use of the Passover lamb without knowing the Passover story or why the Egyptian influenced christ was sentenced on Passover.
Pesach Sameach
(Happy Passover).

You don’t find it odd that instead of celebrating your tradition you use it to attack another’s?

What’s wrong with you?

I missed it----where was the attack and where was the LACK OF CELEBRATION?

I suspect he does celebrate it. It seems to give him pleasure.

 

[Mindful]

lol... what would you do with the hidden matzo if you ever found it?

“...matzo symbolizes redemption and freedom, but it is also lechem oni, "poor man's bread". Thus it serves as a reminder to be humble, and to not forget what life was like in servitude. Also, leaven symbolizes corruption and pride as leaven "puffs up". Eating the "bread of affliction" is both a lesson in humility and an act that enhances the appreciation of freedom...”

Matzo - Wikipedia

It tastes nice. Especially the Hillel Sandwich.

Why wouldn’t it?

Daft question.

Seems appropriate for a daft response.

Well, as it's you, you'd just have to say something like that.

 

[ding]

you said
>>I don’t hate you. I hate what you do
Yet isn't that hypocracy that you claim a difference, but never recognize that difference when reflected back?
When Rabbis discuss Torah they do with fervor and argue over it, but are still friends after. You being passionate about your beliefs feel threatened when challenged, so you see it as hate when someone who uses that hest of judgement can skim the impurities off the top and be left more pure thus see that same judgement as love and dedication.

Cool story. I noticed how you conveniently ignored my question though. Do you believe the G-d of Abraham exists? Are you an atheist?

No, it is not hypocrisy to judge the behavior and not the individual. It's actually what is required to be objective. So there is no hypocrisy to claim there is a difference because there is a huge difference.

Now if your argument is that is what you are doing, I’m going to call bullshit on that. Your sole purpose, your sole agenda is to attack the Christian faith. You don’t praise God. That’s why I believe you are an atheist. You never praise God. You never defend God. You just attack others that do.

There is only one God. He doesn’t care what name you call him. He just wants you to call him.

 

[ding]

“...matzo symbolizes redemption and freedom, but it is also lechem oni, "poor man's bread". Thus it serves as a reminder to be humble, and to not forget what life was like in servitude. Also, leaven symbolizes corruption and pride as leaven "puffs up". Eating the "bread of affliction" is both a lesson in humility and an act that enhances the appreciation of freedom...”

Matzo - Wikipedia

It tastes nice. Especially the Hillel Sandwich.

Why wouldn’t it?

Daft question.

Seems appropriate for a daft response.

Well, as it's you, you'd just have to say something like that.

Judge others as you would have them judge you, dear.

 

[Likkmee]

I just watched the sun pass over the equator a few minutes ago.
Jesus( Yeshua) is truth. You hungover fucks trying to find the suit jacket for the once a year egg hunt are full of shit.
Happy first day of the week.
I have a motorcycle frame to straighten today.

 

[fncceo]

Drink of his blood and eat of his flesh.

 

[irosie91]

you said
>>I don’t hate you. I hate what you do
Yet isn't that hypocracy that you claim a difference, but never recognize that difference when reflected back?
When Rabbis discuss Torah they do with fervor and argue over it, but are still friends after. You being passionate about your beliefs feel threatened when challenged, so you see it as hate when someone who uses that hest of judgement can skim the impurities off the top and be left more pure thus see that same judgement as love and dedication.

Cool story. I noticed how you conveniently ignored my question though. Do you believe the G-d of Abraham exists? Are you an atheist?

No, it is not hypocrisy to judge the behavior and not the individual. It's actually what is required to be objective. So there is no hypocrisy to claim there is a difference because there is a huge difference.

Now if your argument is that is what you are doing, I’m going to call bullshit on that. Your sole purpose, your sole agenda is to attack the Christian faith. You don’t praise God. That’s why I believe you are an atheist. You never praise God. You never defend God. You just attack others that do.

There is only one God. He doesn’t care what name you call him. He just wants you to call him.

c'mon dingbat----not only do you DECIDE what what are the MOTIVES OF HASHEV---you have even decided that you KNOW that "DESIRES OF GOD"-----SHEEEEESH

 

[hobelim]

Sample The Love of Jesus:
Jesus hated families

When Jesus said that he came to bring a sword that would cause division, not peace, it was not about hating families you lying sack of shit.


"I am the light of the world. Followers of mine shall not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."




And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And seeing that the light was good, God separated the light from the darkness.

"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters."

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night;

God set these lights in the expanse of the sky to shine upon the earth, to preside over the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness.



And God saw that it was good.




"And you will again see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who do not."

 

[irosie91]

Sample The Love of Jesus:
Jesus hated families

When Jesus said that he came to bring a sword that would cause division, not peace, it was not about hating families.



And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And seeing that the light was good, God separated the light from the darkness.

"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters."

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night;

God set these lights in the expanse of the sky to shine upon the earth, to preside over the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness.



And God saw that it was good.


"I am the light of the world. Followers of mine shall not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."


"And you will again see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who do not."

right Hobie, dear POETRY

 

[hobelim]

Sample The Love of Jesus:
Jesus hated families

When Jesus said that he came to bring a sword that would cause division, not peace, it was not about hating families.



And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And seeing that the light was good, God separated the light from the darkness.

"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters."

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night;

God set these lights in the expanse of the sky to shine upon the earth, to preside over the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness.



And God saw that it was good.


"I am the light of the world. Followers of mine shall not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."


"And you will again see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who do not."

right Hobie, dear POETRY

Remind me, Rosie dear, why was friday night different than any other night?

 

[irosie91]

Sample The Love of Jesus:
Jesus hated families

When Jesus said that he came to bring a sword that would cause division, not peace, it was not about hating families.



And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And seeing that the light was good, God separated the light from the darkness.

"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters."

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night;

God set these lights in the expanse of the sky to shine upon the earth, to preside over the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness.



And God saw that it was good.


"I am the light of the world. Followers of mine shall not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."


"And you will again see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between those who serve God and those who do not."

right Hobie, dear POETRY

Remind me, Rosie dear, why was friday night different than any other night?

we had to wait HOURS to eat-----the speeches, the songs, the baby directed \
rituals like HIDING THE AFIKOMEN-----
etc etc etc ad infinitum-------and Elijah did not have the DECENCY to actually show up

 

[HaShev]

I just watched the sun pass over the equator a few minutes ago.
Jesus( Yeshua) is truth. You hungover fucks trying to find the suit jacket for the once a year egg hunt are full of shit.
Happy first day of the week.
I have a motorcycle frame to straighten today.

The problem is YESHU was a 100bc character and not the same as the King Herod era Galilean figure or Pilate era River Jordan Christ so Yeshu is not Jesus he is used as a portion of his image created by a Roman lie in forming it's one world religion. Therefore Jesus is not truth, the claimed teachings they attribute to him are partially Abrahamic and Torah so it's "a lie" to give predated precepts to a created character who didn't even exist as a singular Historical person.