Tom Ridge: I Was Pressured To Raise Terror Alert To Help Bush Win Re-Election

[kwc57]

I believe one of the reasons why the terror alert should have been raised to RED is because Kerry was running for President. What a piece of work this clown is. Got that lying thing down pat too. Guess his "hero" status from Viet Nam was only in his own mind. It certainly wasn't in anybody's mind except his.

so... you think that the Navy gives away Silver Stars for nothing?

Doesn't that really mean that you are denigrating any Navy veteran who won that award?

I was in the Navy for 20 years and 5 days. I know from personal experience that there are people who get medals and there are people who earn medals. I was not there when Kerry did whatever it was he was hailed to do to earn that Silver Star but I do know that there are a lot of people who spoke up and said his actions were not quite that grand.

Yes....people with an axe to grind.

 

[kwc57]

I wonder if there will every be a cure for Bush Derangement Syndrome, or if all of you poor souls will be infected forever.

Doubtful as it is a tricky little bug. It mutated overnight into Obama Derangement Syndrome and seems to be more widespread and stronger than before.

 

[Newby]

I wonder if there will every be a cure for Bush Derangement Syndrome, or if all of you poor souls will be infected forever.

Doubtful as it is a tricky little bug. It mutated overnight into Obama Derangement Syndrome and seems to be more widespread and stronger than before.

Same people, same derangement, only it was unfounded hatred for Bush and unfounded adoration for Obama.

 

[kwc57]

I wonder if there will every be a cure for Bush Derangement Syndrome, or if all of you poor souls will be infected forever.

Doubtful as it is a tricky little bug. It mutated overnight into Obama Derangement Syndrome and seems to be more widespread and stronger than before.

Same people, same derangement, only it was unfounded hatred for Bush and unfounded adoration for Obama.

Partisan hack much?

 

[Newby]

Doubtful as it is a tricky little bug. It mutated overnight into Obama Derangement Syndrome and seems to be more widespread and stronger than before.

Same people, same derangement, only it was unfounded hatred for Bush and unfounded adoration for Obama.

Partisan hack much?

If you can look at what Obama has done in the last 6 months, and you have nothing negative to say about any of it, then you had better look in the mirror. He's 10 times worse than Bush ever was, and yet you sit here and defend his actions. You calling me a partisan hack is a complete joke.

 

[kwc57]

Same people, same derangement, only it was unfounded hatred for Bush and unfounded adoration for Obama.

Partisan hack much?

If you can look at what Obama has done in the last 6 months, and you have nothing negative to say about any of it, then you had better look in the mirror. He's 10 times worse than Bush ever was, and yet you sit here and defend his actions. You calling me a partisan hack is a complete joke.

I never said that Obama can do not wrong. He isn't my guy. That wasn't even the issue. You accuse people of BDS and won't admit that now the shoe is on the other foot, ODS is just as bad. People with either derangment syndrome are asses.

 

[Newby]

Partisan hack much?

If you can look at what Obama has done in the last 6 months, and you have nothing negative to say about any of it, then you had better look in the mirror. He's 10 times worse than Bush ever was, and yet you sit here and defend his actions. You calling me a partisan hack is a complete joke.

I never said that Obama can do not wrong. He isn't my guy. That wasn't even the issue. You accuse people of BDS and won't admit that now the shoe is on the other foot, ODS is just as bad. People with either derangment syndrome are asses.

I don't see having legitmate concerns over what is happening right now as being 'ODS'. It's no where near the level of where BDS was anywhere in the Bush administration's eight year tenure. The level of spending going on right now is unprecidented, and people have legitmate cause for concern. They also have legitimate concern whenever the government is trying to shove it's way into every American's personal lives via medical care. They're over stepping their bounds on a personal level that will eventually affect every American. I don't see the media berating and/or questioning Obama every day, I don't see the body counts from Iraq and Afghanistan broadcast on a daily basis. There is a long way to go until the level for ODS is reached where it will equal what took place over Bush's presidency.

 

[ABikerSailor]

I wonder if there will every be a cure for Bush Derangement Syndrome, or if all of you poor souls will be infected forever.

Doubtful as it is a tricky little bug. It mutated overnight into Obama Derangement Syndrome and seems to be more widespread and stronger than before.

Same people, same derangement, only it was unfounded hatred for Bush and unfounded adoration for Obama.

Really? Unfounded adoration for Obama? Might wanna take another look at what the GOP has been doing over the past couple of months.............

I see nothing but hatred getting the most press.

 

[Vast LWC]

The LMSM was using body count to help Kerry, so I think it's a wash

hmm, so, body count in a war Bush started... factual information.

Raising the threat level due to a supposed rise in the threat from terrorism... False information.

One is truth, one is a lie.

So, no, it's not a "wash".

Why don't you care about the body count now? You don't give a damn about the war or the men who died, all you give a damn about is your party's agenda. Why you would care, being an average citizen, it anyone's guess. They sure as hell aren't going to do anything for you now or down the road. Where are your postings and protestations about the war now, hypocrit?

Where do you even get this? I said the body count was factual information. I did not say anything else about it.

And, as a veteran, I take quite a bit of offense to anyone who tells me I don't give a damn about body counts or my country. Expecially some two bit hack on a posting board who has no clue what he's talking about.

So, can it Newby, we all know you're an armchair warrior anyway.

 

[Newby]

hmm, so, body count in a war Bush started... factual information.

Raising the threat level due to a supposed rise in the threat from terrorism... False information.

One is truth, one is a lie.

So, no, it's not a "wash".

Why don't you care about the body count now? You don't give a damn about the war or the men who died, all you give a damn about is your party's agenda. Why you would care, being an average citizen, it anyone's guess. They sure as hell aren't going to do anything for you now or down the road. Where are your postings and protestations about the war now, hypocrit?

Where do you even get this? I said the body count was factual information. I did not say anything else about it.

And, as a veteran, I take quite a bit of offense to anyone who tells me I don't give a damn about body counts or my country. Expecially some two bit hack on a posting board who has no clue what he's talking about.

So, can it Newby, we all know you're an armchair warrior anyway.

Where's your concern for today's body count? If you cared, you'd still be critisizing the current administration. It's still factual information today, we're still over in both Iraq and Afghanistan today. Different president, same scenario. Nothing has 'changed'.

You 'know' nothing, apparently. Anyone can say they are a veteran, and it's meaningless to the point anyway.

 

[Vast LWC]

Bush started it?

What a moonbat.

And Ridge's assertion is questioned already. But hey I'm sure his book deal is no incentive to embellish a little.

Yes, Bush started the war in Iraq, which is where the vast majority of the body count was from.

Try and keep up, wingnut.

Hmm but I thought it was a cease fire and that Iraq had violated many directives? So basically what he did was pick up where 41 mistakenly left it. 41 should have taken Saddam out back then.

Nevermind that radical Islam has been at war with us for years. You clowns actually believe that they will call it off if we stop fighting. yeah. That will happen.

And the body count... yeah I remember the daily count updates by the msm. Don't seem to see them too much these days. And when we do, they haven't been killed by freedom fighters, they were killed by terrorists.

Or is it, man causing disasters? I can't keep up with you loons.

I remember the scientific (sic) studies about Iraqi deaths too. The ones claiming over 600,000 deaths. Talk about a bogus claim... I remember all of the libs breathlessly bleating about that one.

What does Iraq, a secular and socialist-ruled nation have to do with "radical islam" that attacked us? Hmmm?

And, as we know, Iraq had no WMDs, did they? Nor were there any "Terrorist training camps" being run by the hussein government, nor was there any link at all between Hussein's Iraq and Al Qaeda.

There WERE however, links between the Kurds and Al Qaeda, and between Saudi Arabia and Al Qaeda.

Just because I was against a STUPID, Ill conceived invasion of another sovereign nation, that posed no threat to us whatsoever, and distracted from other missions, (like killing Bin Laden) doesn't make me against striking back at the actual people that attacked us, genius.

 

[Vast LWC]

If you can look at what Obama has done in the last 6 months, and you have nothing negative to say about any of it, then you had better look in the mirror. He's 10 times worse than Bush ever was, and yet you sit here and defend his actions. You calling me a partisan hack is a complete joke.

I never said that Obama can do not wrong. He isn't my guy. That wasn't even the issue. You accuse people of BDS and won't admit that now the shoe is on the other foot, ODS is just as bad. People with either derangment syndrome are asses.

I don't see having legitmate concerns over what is happening right now as being 'ODS'. It's no where near the level of where BDS was anywhere in the Bush administration's eight year tenure. The level of spending going on right now is unprecidented, and people have legitmate cause for concern. They also have legitimate concern whenever the government is trying to shove it's way into every American's personal lives via medical care. They're over stepping their bounds on a personal level that will eventually affect every American. I don't see the media berating and/or questioning Obama every day, I don't see the body counts from Iraq and Afghanistan broadcast on a daily basis. There is a long way to go until the level for ODS is reached where it will equal what took place over Bush's presidency.

Mr Obama hasn't done anything to harm our nation yet.

Hatred for Bush began as a direct result of him twisting his country's willingness to go after the terrorists, into an invasion of a sovereign nation, that had nothing to do with 9/11.

The money Obama's spending is going directly to trying to help our economy.

All the money Bush spent went to pork, the military and the Iraq War.

And deficit spending to come out of a recession is a REAGAN way of thinking. Or do you guys conveniently forget about "the gipper's" policies when a Democrat is using them?

Once Obama makes a couple of Bush-like stupid fucking mistakes that put our nation in harm's way, then you have every right to lay on the hate. But until that point, how about you all shut the fuck up?

After all, we all know that the man you picked was arguably the worst president in the history of the United States. Why in god's name should we listen to you?

 

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Tom Ridge: I Was Pressured To Raise Terror Alert To Help Bush Win Re-Election


There were some of us who knew they were doing this at the time, striking fear in people to sway an election, and we were called traitors and Bush haters and unpatriotic for even questioning them - now we have Ridge confirming it.

He confirms exactly what the Bush Administration was in this regard by doing such actions: They were terrorists themselves!

Bastards.

 

[kwc57]

If you can look at what Obama has done in the last 6 months, and you have nothing negative to say about any of it, then you had better look in the mirror. He's 10 times worse than Bush ever was, and yet you sit here and defend his actions. You calling me a partisan hack is a complete joke.

I never said that Obama can do not wrong. He isn't my guy. That wasn't even the issue. You accuse people of BDS and won't admit that now the shoe is on the other foot, ODS is just as bad. People with either derangment syndrome are asses.

I don't see having legitmate concerns over what is happening right now as being 'ODS'. It's no where near the level of where BDS was anywhere in the Bush administration's eight year tenure. The level of spending going on right now is unprecidented, and people have legitmate cause for concern. They also have legitimate concern whenever the government is trying to shove it's way into every American's personal lives via medical care. They're over stepping their bounds on a personal level that will eventually affect every American. I don't see the media berating and/or questioning Obama every day, I don't see the body counts from Iraq and Afghanistan broadcast on a daily basis. There is a long way to go until the level for ODS is reached where it will equal what took place over Bush's presidency.

Buddy, you need to get your ass out of the house more often. On any given day on talk radio, cable news, the internet, etc. you will hear Obama compared to Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Kim Jong Il and the anti-Christ. He is a secret mooslim who wants to kill babies and old people and take your guns away from you. No, no ODS going on at all.

 

[JimH52]

This was the most incompetent and corrupt administration in US history. Why should anyone be surprised. Uncle Fester ran things while W told war stories about his weekends in the reserves. Eight years of bumbling...

 

[bodecea]

This was the most incompetent and corrupt administration in US history. Why should anyone be surprised. Uncle Fester ran things while W told war stories about his weekends in the reserves. Eight years of bumbling...

They trashed our home...eight years of trashing our home...and people are blaming the renovator because he's not done fixing things in 6 months.

 

[JimH52]

This was the most incompetent and corrupt administration in US history. Why should anyone be surprised. Uncle Fester ran things while W told war stories about his weekends in the reserves. Eight years of bumbling...

They trashed our home...eight years of trashing our home...and people are blaming the renovator because he's not done fixing things in 6 months.

cause the web site wouldn't me to rep.

 

[rdean]

This was the most incompetent and corrupt administration in US history. Why should anyone be surprised. Uncle Fester ran things while W told war stories about his weekends in the reserves. Eight years of bumbling...

They trashed our home...eight years of trashing our home...and people are blaming the renovator because he's not done fixing things in 6 months.

cause the web site wouldn't me to rep.

Good, then from the middle, you can see it's the "right" that "armed".

 

[Vast LWC]

Unfortunately, most of the right-wingers aren't going to post here. Bush is a subject they try to disassociate themselves from. LOL.

Plus it's just "off-message" and there are no pre-determined talking points.

 

[rdean]

The same right wingers that screamed, "You are with us or with them!" and "Bush saved us from Iraqi attack" now say, "So what, ho hum, it's a thing of the past. Get over it." As if they were formerly wild and foaming at the mouth. I love this video where Bush says he never suggested that Saddam was behind 9/11.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTstzb7qSI4]YouTube - Bush protects Iraqi Christians[/ame]

When I was making this short video, the material I found while researching made me physically ill. Our government hasn't been involved in such an odious affair since "Tuskegee". I will never understand why the right continues to support this fiasco.