Todd Akin was forced out of the race by the WOMEN FRIENDLY GOP

[Bfgrn]

I'm only going to post one response on this then be done with this topic I see predictably I might add the outrage from the left both here and in the media over this moron Akin,s stupid, disgusting, and outrageous comment and the calls for the right to condemn him which most did long before the those calls started. Now let us go back two or three weeks to that stupid, disgusting, outrageous Obama superpac ad which basically blamed Mitt Romney for a woman's death the right on here and in the conservative media called for the left to condemn that ad very few that I recall on this board in the media or even the President I believe was willing to do that. There reason for not doing so was that it was a superpac we had nothing to do with it were not responsible for it while that may be true that still should not stop one from condemning it for what it was a hateful vicious lie now Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, and the Republican Party had nothing to do with Akin's comments there not any more responsible for what he say's than than Obama or the Democrats were for the superpac ad if one side is going to call on the other to condemn there own and clean there house you better be willing to condemn your own and make sure your own house clean as well being unwilling to do so makes you a hypocrite of the highest order.

Pro-Obama group blames Romney in woman's death

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[JakeStarkey]

Man crush? That's it! Bfgrn had a man crush on a Mormon boy and got it widdle heart broken! What a silly bfgrn you are!

Only wacks of the far left listen with reverence to JoeB on Romney and Republicanism.

Joe is here only for grins and chuckles.

WOW Jake, your man crush for Mitten is turning you into Frank. . . .

 

[rightwinger]

22 pages about a guy being out of the race who's not.

The GOP is in full damage control mode at this point. It's sort of fun to watch them cannibalize one of their own. Here is what Akin said according to Wiki:

Well you know, people always want to try to make that as one of those things, well how do you, how do you slice this particularly tough sort of ethical question. First of all, from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.

If you remove the hot-button tumult of the word "rape" from the comment, it is basically just another idiotic statement from the GOP. These are the guys who take the bible literally, don't believe in global warming, don't believe in the big bang theory, and fully believe that college is something that shouldn't be a goal for their kids.

Not all but definitely many; if not most feel exactly that way. On all three counts. Akin's comments are just another rejection of scientific fact and ignorance that goes back a long way and shows no signs of stopping. There was a guy who ran for Governor of Texas one time named Clayton Williamson who said this about rape: "'If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it.''

Is anyone surprised that Akin is carrying on this fine Republican tradition?

Good points

The thing is ....as much crap Akin is taking for what he said, he did not make this nonsense up. This is the type of material that Akin reads. This is actually what he believes and makes his decisions on

 

[bornright]

Actually..you will..

Paul Ryan doesn't feel much different then Akin about the issue.

And Romney isn't far behind.

Akin was confused about a medical thing and spoke of it. Ryan and Romney both said it was an inaccurate statement so I am very confused to you comparing them to Akin's view that a woman has a way to prevent pregnancy if raped.

 

[rightwinger]

Actually..you will..

Paul Ryan doesn't feel much different then Akin about the issue.

And Romney isn't far behind.

Akin was confused about a medical thing and spoke of it. Ryan and Romney both said it was an inaccurate statement so I am very confused to you comparing them to Akin's view that a woman has a way to prevent pregnancy if raped.

Akin was not confused.....it just reflects his immersion in antiabortion rhetoric.

Romney and Ryan have the same views on Abortion.....ban it

Just like banning guns, you will never be able to ban abortion in this country

 

[Moonglow]

Just goes to show the sort of pig ignorance you see from tea farty types.

 

[Bfgrn]

Man crush? That's it! Bfgrn had a man crush on a Mormon boy and got it widdle heart broken! What a silly bfgrn you are!

Only wacks of the far left listen with reverence to JoeB on Romney and Republicanism.

Joe is here only for grins and chuckles.

WOW Jake, your man crush for Mitten is turning you into Frank. . . .

Great Frank-like response Jake. It has to be a man crush, or some twisted understanding of reality. Do you REALLY think the conservative money sources like the Koch brothers, who control the GOP, are going to tolerate the Romney you envision Jake?

 

[JakeStarkey]

brfgn and his man crush on Romney is something to behold. To the point, son, Romney will not tolerate the Koch brothers you envision.

 

[Bfgrn]

brfgn and his man crush on Romney is something to behold. To the point, son, Romney will not tolerate the Koch brothers you envision.

Hey Jake, if Mitten has proven anything, there is not an issue he is committed to. Is there ANY issue Mitten hasn't flip flopped on?

And before you get all butt hurt and start calling me names again, I don't have to ask 'whacky leftists' for a list either Jake...

Read more: 14 Bald-Faced Mitt Romney Flip-Flops That Were Dug Up By John McCain - Business Insider

 

[JakeStarkey]

What names, that you have a man crush of Mitt? That is your problem, your butt hurt not mine. Just let it flow, son, just let it flow so you can feel your full crush on Mitt.

 

[Bfgrn]

What names, that you have a man crush of Mitt? That is your problem, your butt hurt not mine. Just let it flow, son, just let it flow so you can feel your full crush on Mitt.

You are even making Frank look sane Jake. I can't tell you how disappointed I am. I honestly once considered you moderate.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You and Frank are twin brothers, my little friend. I bet your room has wall sized autographed photos of glossy Mitt in white shirt and tidy whitey shorts!

 

[blackhawk]

Great, maybe you can tell us how Paul Ryan and Todd Akin differ on their views on abortion and women's rights?

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan

I guess I will break my rule and respond though it's a waste of time. Now can you tell me how Paul Ryan's views on abortion have anything to do with Akin's comments? Did Ryan come out and say he supported Akin or his comments? Did he tell Akin to make those comments? Has Paul Ryan ever made comments like those? Ryan's views on abortion are not the issue the issue is trying to hold other's responsible for either the words or actions of another it doesn't matter if it's the left trying to hold Ryan somehow responsible for Akin's comment or the right trying to hold Obama responsible for the Romney killed my wife superpac ad. A person is only responsible for their words and actions not the words or actions of another Ryan may have similar views with Akin on abortion but that does not make Ryan responsible in any way shape or form for Akin's comments. I hope that cleared it up for you.

YES, he has. In word and deed.

What Romney Wants You to Forget

Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan were among the first Republicans to condemn Todd Akin, the GOP Senate candidate in Missouri who over the weekend suggested women’s bodies naturally thwart pregnancy in cases of “legitimate rape.” Maybe Romney and Ryan were anticipating the political backlash and maybe they were genuinely appalled at what Akin said. I really don’t know. I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt—and to give them credit for reacting so quickly.

But the official campaign statement included a telling postscript: “a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape.” The clarification was necessary because Ryan has opposed such exceptions in the past. As Newsweek’s Michelle Goldberg and Salon’s Alex Seitz-Wald have pointed out, Ryan's record on abortion is extremely conservative, even by Republican standards. He has a perfect 100 rating from the National Right to Life Committee. And he’s lived up to that rating by, among other things, co-sponsoring a bill that declared “personhood” begins at fertilization—a legal standard that, if ever applied, could outlaw not just abortion but also in vitro fertilization, intrauterine devices, and some oral contraceptives. Akin was one of the other co-sponsors.

Ryan also co-sponsored (with Akin, again) a bill that would have modified the existing ban on federal funding of abortion. Presently, the law allows federal funds to support abortions in case of rape and incest. The bill would have narrowed the exceptions to cases of “forcible rape” and, for incest, cases involving minors. The legal implications of the proposed standard were unclear. But, as Nick Baumann of Mother Jones explained at the time, abortion rights advocates feared (reasonably) that victims raped while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, victims with diminished mental capacity, and victims of date rape might not be eligible if the new definition ever took effect. (For more background, see Ian Millhiser of ThinkProgress.) The bill was so controversial that House Republicans withdrew that language.


Paul Ryan’s Surprising Positions on Women’s Health and Reproductive Rights

• Sponsored “Personhood” Bills to Outlaw ALL Abortions, Ban Common Forms of Contraception, and Prohibit In-Vitro Fertilization. Congressman Ryan co-sponsored several “personhood” bills that would give legal rights to a fetus starting at conception. The latest Ryan “personhood” bill, which Ryan and its other co-sponsors (all Republicans in the House of Representatives) called the “Sanctity of Human Life Act,” like his previous measures, declared that a fertilized egg “shall have all the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood.” This would outlaw all abortion, some forms of contraception (including IUD’s and the pill), and in-vitro fertilization. This bill was introduced in the 2009-2010 Congress, failed to pass, and Congressman Ryan re-introduced the bill as late as January, 2011.

Such “Personhood bills” have been considered so radical that when placed on the ballot for a referendum vote of citizens, have failed to pass across the country — in states including Nevada, Oklahoma, Virginia, Florida, Colorado and even in ultra-Conservative Mississippi.

• Expresses Consistent Opposition to ALL Abortions — Even in Cases of Rape or Incest or Where the Mother’s Life is at Risk. Congressman Ryan has said repeatedly that he is against ALL abortions, even in cases of rape and incest, or where the Mother’s life is at risk. In July, 2010, he told the Weekly Standard, a Conservative publication, “I’m as pro-life as a person gets. You’re not going to have a truce. Judges are going to come up. Issues come up, they’re unavoidable, and I’m never going to not vote pro-life.”

• Cast 59 Votes Against Women’s Choice in Congress. Congressman Ryan has consistently sponsored legislation and has voted to ban all abortions. According to NARAL, “During his time in the House, Rep. Ryan has cast 59 votes on abortion and other reproductive rights issues. All of these votes were anti-choice.

• Supported Allowing Emergency Rooms to Deny Emergency Abortion Where the Woman is Likely to Die Without It. Congressman Ryan supported a highly controversial bill that many women called the “Let Women Die Act,” which would have allowed hospitals to refuse to provide emergency abortion care to a woman, even if her life is at severe risk.

• Wants to Overturn Roe v. Wade. Congressman Ryan strongly favors overturning Roe v. Wade. In his own words, he has compared the decision (which guaranteed a woman’s right to choose and have control over her own reproductive health) to the Dred Scott Decision (the 1857 Supreme Court decision that allowed slavery to continue at that time).

• Sponsored Legislation For Forced Ultrasounds. Congressman Ryan co-sponsored the so-called “Ultrasound Informed Consent Act” (H.R.3805, 112th Cong. § 2 – in 2012) requiring a woman to undergo a forced ultrasound even if not medically necessary before receiving abortion services, and even if against the woman’s will.

• Voted Repeatedly to Deny Military Women Access to Abortion, Even if They Pay for It Themselves. Congressman Ryan repeatedly voted to deny women in the military – who defend our freedom overseas – the right to use their own, private funds for abortion care at military hospitals. (See e.g. the many amendments to ban availability of abortions to military women that Congressman Ryan voted for from 1999 through 2007, as listed in Note 9 to NARAL’s Report.)

• Sponsored Legislation and Voted to Defund Planned Parenthood. Congressman Ryan sponsored legislation and voted consistently to defund Planned Parenthood.

Planned Parenthood is a nonprofit organization that provides low-cost preventive health care to millions of American women — and is the only health care provider that many women can afford or access.Representative Ryan and other Republicans have consistently misrepresented what percentage of the care provided by Planned Parenthood includes abortions. They have falsely claimed that over 90% of the care provided by Planned Parenthood consists of abortions — an assertion called blatantly FALSE by PolitiFact. In fact, only 3% of the health care services provided by Planned Parenthood involve abortions, and over 97% of services include preventive health care for women — including such services as breast cancer screenings, procedures to prevent cervical cancer, ovarian cancer treatment, Pap Smears and HPV Tests, pelvic exams, female infertility treatment, and treatments for infections.

These are just a few of Congressman Ryan’s consistent positions against women’s health and reproductive choice. For a more detailed list, see NARAL’s report on Congressman Paul Ryan.

As reported By Think Progress and the Huffington Post two less than unbiased sources so you will forgive me if I don't take that at face value.

 

[Bfgrn]

I guess I will break my rule and respond though it's a waste of time. Now can you tell me how Paul Ryan's views on abortion have anything to do with Akin's comments? Did Ryan come out and say he supported Akin or his comments? Did he tell Akin to make those comments? Has Paul Ryan ever made comments like those? Ryan's views on abortion are not the issue the issue is trying to hold other's responsible for either the words or actions of another it doesn't matter if it's the left trying to hold Ryan somehow responsible for Akin's comment or the right trying to hold Obama responsible for the Romney killed my wife superpac ad. A person is only responsible for their words and actions not the words or actions of another Ryan may have similar views with Akin on abortion but that does not make Ryan responsible in any way shape or form for Akin's comments. I hope that cleared it up for you.

YES, he has. In word and deed.

What Romney Wants You to Forget

Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan were among the first Republicans to condemn Todd Akin, the GOP Senate candidate in Missouri who over the weekend suggested women’s bodies naturally thwart pregnancy in cases of “legitimate rape.” Maybe Romney and Ryan were anticipating the political backlash and maybe they were genuinely appalled at what Akin said. I really don’t know. I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt—and to give them credit for reacting so quickly.

But the official campaign statement included a telling postscript: “a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape.” The clarification was necessary because Ryan has opposed such exceptions in the past. As Newsweek’s Michelle Goldberg and Salon’s Alex Seitz-Wald have pointed out, Ryan's record on abortion is extremely conservative, even by Republican standards. He has a perfect 100 rating from the National Right to Life Committee. And he’s lived up to that rating by, among other things, co-sponsoring a bill that declared “personhood” begins at fertilization—a legal standard that, if ever applied, could outlaw not just abortion but also in vitro fertilization, intrauterine devices, and some oral contraceptives. Akin was one of the other co-sponsors.

Ryan also co-sponsored (with Akin, again) a bill that would have modified the existing ban on federal funding of abortion. Presently, the law allows federal funds to support abortions in case of rape and incest. The bill would have narrowed the exceptions to cases of “forcible rape” and, for incest, cases involving minors. The legal implications of the proposed standard were unclear. But, as Nick Baumann of Mother Jones explained at the time, abortion rights advocates feared (reasonably) that victims raped while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, victims with diminished mental capacity, and victims of date rape might not be eligible if the new definition ever took effect. (For more background, see Ian Millhiser of ThinkProgress.) The bill was so controversial that House Republicans withdrew that language.


Paul Ryan’s Surprising Positions on Women’s Health and Reproductive Rights

• Sponsored “Personhood” Bills to Outlaw ALL Abortions, Ban Common Forms of Contraception, and Prohibit In-Vitro Fertilization. Congressman Ryan co-sponsored several “personhood” bills that would give legal rights to a fetus starting at conception. The latest Ryan “personhood” bill, which Ryan and its other co-sponsors (all Republicans in the House of Representatives) called the “Sanctity of Human Life Act,” like his previous measures, declared that a fertilized egg “shall have all the legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood.” This would outlaw all abortion, some forms of contraception (including IUD’s and the pill), and in-vitro fertilization. This bill was introduced in the 2009-2010 Congress, failed to pass, and Congressman Ryan re-introduced the bill as late as January, 2011.

Such “Personhood bills” have been considered so radical that when placed on the ballot for a referendum vote of citizens, have failed to pass across the country — in states including Nevada, Oklahoma, Virginia, Florida, Colorado and even in ultra-Conservative Mississippi.

• Expresses Consistent Opposition to ALL Abortions — Even in Cases of Rape or Incest or Where the Mother’s Life is at Risk. Congressman Ryan has said repeatedly that he is against ALL abortions, even in cases of rape and incest, or where the Mother’s life is at risk. In July, 2010, he told the Weekly Standard, a Conservative publication, “I’m as pro-life as a person gets. You’re not going to have a truce. Judges are going to come up. Issues come up, they’re unavoidable, and I’m never going to not vote pro-life.”

• Cast 59 Votes Against Women’s Choice in Congress. Congressman Ryan has consistently sponsored legislation and has voted to ban all abortions. According to NARAL, “During his time in the House, Rep. Ryan has cast 59 votes on abortion and other reproductive rights issues. All of these votes were anti-choice.

• Supported Allowing Emergency Rooms to Deny Emergency Abortion Where the Woman is Likely to Die Without It. Congressman Ryan supported a highly controversial bill that many women called the “Let Women Die Act,” which would have allowed hospitals to refuse to provide emergency abortion care to a woman, even if her life is at severe risk.

• Wants to Overturn Roe v. Wade. Congressman Ryan strongly favors overturning Roe v. Wade. In his own words, he has compared the decision (which guaranteed a woman’s right to choose and have control over her own reproductive health) to the Dred Scott Decision (the 1857 Supreme Court decision that allowed slavery to continue at that time).

• Sponsored Legislation For Forced Ultrasounds. Congressman Ryan co-sponsored the so-called “Ultrasound Informed Consent Act” (H.R.3805, 112th Cong. § 2 – in 2012) requiring a woman to undergo a forced ultrasound even if not medically necessary before receiving abortion services, and even if against the woman’s will.

• Voted Repeatedly to Deny Military Women Access to Abortion, Even if They Pay for It Themselves. Congressman Ryan repeatedly voted to deny women in the military – who defend our freedom overseas – the right to use their own, private funds for abortion care at military hospitals. (See e.g. the many amendments to ban availability of abortions to military women that Congressman Ryan voted for from 1999 through 2007, as listed in Note 9 to NARAL’s Report.)

• Sponsored Legislation and Voted to Defund Planned Parenthood. Congressman Ryan sponsored legislation and voted consistently to defund Planned Parenthood.

Planned Parenthood is a nonprofit organization that provides low-cost preventive health care to millions of American women — and is the only health care provider that many women can afford or access.Representative Ryan and other Republicans have consistently misrepresented what percentage of the care provided by Planned Parenthood includes abortions. They have falsely claimed that over 90% of the care provided by Planned Parenthood consists of abortions — an assertion called blatantly FALSE by PolitiFact. In fact, only 3% of the health care services provided by Planned Parenthood involve abortions, and over 97% of services include preventive health care for women — including such services as breast cancer screenings, procedures to prevent cervical cancer, ovarian cancer treatment, Pap Smears and HPV Tests, pelvic exams, female infertility treatment, and treatments for infections.

These are just a few of Congressman Ryan’s consistent positions against women’s health and reproductive choice. For a more detailed list, see NARAL’s report on Congressman Paul Ryan.

As reported By Think Progress and the Huffington Post two less than unbiased sources so you will forgive me if I don't take that at face value.

You are welcome to prove those sources are lying. But you CAN'T...It is all public record.

 

[Bfgrn]

You and Frank are twin brothers, my little friend. I bet your room has wall sized autographed photos of glossy Mitt in white shirt and tidy whitey shorts!

Actually Jake, the only pictures on my walls are of the wife and kids. But, if I had the urge to place a public figure's picture on my wall, it would be the man whose views I am in complete agreement with.

BTW, I am still waiting for you to provide my posts that are far leftist Jake.

 

[Barb]

I like this guy

 

[Barb]

 

[sitarro]

You know what people, it's 2012, a little over 4 months from 2013....... why the FUCK is abortion such a sacred cow to you imbeciles on the left. Really, just how incredibly stupid do you have to be to actually get pregnant today, if you don't want to. For that reason alone I have to think it is worth allowing abortion to happen so the dumbshits that allows unwanted pregnancy to happen to themselves, doesn't pass on the idiot genes to any more offspring. One stipulation though..... you want the taxpayers to pay for it, you are made sterile immediately...... you only get one. By the way, if you think that abortion is a reasonable choice for irresponsible acts..... get ready for a life of sleepless nights second guessing your decision........ anyone with the least amount of humanity will always be haunted by what they have done..... I know, I have a friend that drank herself to death because she could never forgive herself for what she considered the most selfish act a woman could ever do.

Fuck you leftist assholes for defending this practice as a right rather than pushing for more education about how to prevent it in the first place but that just wouldn't fit would it, you want as many imbeciles as possible for the voting block....... when do you asshats start pushing for third world nations to have the right to vote in our elections......wait, you jerks do that already.

 

[Borillar]

You know what people, it's 2012, a little over 4 months from 2013....... why the FUCK is abortion such a sacred cow to you imbeciles on the left. Really, just how incredibly stupid do you have to be to actually get pregnant today, if you don't want to. For that reason alone I have to think it is worth allowing abortion to happen so the dumbshits that allows unwanted pregnancy to happen to themselves, doesn't pass on the idiot genes to any more offspring. One stipulation though..... you want the taxpayers to pay for it, you are made sterile immediately...... you only get one. By the way, if you think that abortion is a reasonable choice for irresponsible acts..... get ready for a life of sleepless nights second guessing your decision........ anyone with the least amount of humanity will always be haunted by what they have done..... I know, I have a friend that drank herself to death because she could never forgive herself for what she considered the most selfish act a woman could ever do.

Fuck you leftist assholes for defending this practice as a right rather than pushing for more education about how to prevent it in the first place but that just wouldn't fit would it, you want as many imbeciles as possible for the voting block....... when do you asshats start pushing for third world nations to have the right to vote in our elections......wait, you jerks do that already.

1. Contraception doesn't always work.
2. Not all abortions are due to carelessness.
3. Taxpayers don't pay for abortions. The Hyde amendment makes it verboten.
4. It is the right that is against sex education, not the left.
5. How can we be simultaneously be aborting bazillions of babies and still be reproducing so that as many people as possible can vote our way?
6. Nobody is pushing for 3rd world nations to have the right to vote in our elections.

"What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things i have ever heard.
At no point in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul." - Billy Madison

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are no more mainstream that daveman or UncensoredSilly, kiddo.

You and Frank are twin brothers, my little friend. I bet your room has wall sized autographed photos of glossy Mitt in white shirt and tidy whitey shorts!

Actually Jake, the only pictures on my walls are of the wife and kids. But, if I had the urge to place a public figure's picture on my wall, it would be the man whose views I am in complete agreement with.

BTW, I am still waiting for you to provide my posts that are far leftist Jake.