Today, Nine years ago

[JStone]

All that blabber and no map.



The borders that Israel started with? Do you mean in 1948?

Post a 1948 map of Israel.

Why? As I told you, I am not concerned with your irrational talking pointless. The State of Israel exists and its borders DID expand -- as a consequence of the aggressions against it.

There is not now and there never was a "state" of Palestine. It is a mythical construct.

Once we know those facts, the balance of your hoped-for deflection melts away.

Why? You said it why don't you back up what you said?

Where is that 1948 map of Israel?

Where is that 1948 map of Egypt? Or, don't those Pyramid thingees really exist?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Why? As I told you, I am not concerned with your irrational talking pointless. The State of Israel exists and its borders DID expand -- as a consequence of the aggressions against it.

There is not now and there never was a "state" of Palestine. It is a mythical construct.

Once we know those facts, the balance of your hoped-for deflection melts away.

Why? You said it why don't you back up what you said?

Where is that 1948 map of Israel?

Where is that 1948 map of Egypt? Or, don't those Pyramid thingees really exist?

Irrelevant.

 

[Liability]

Why? You said it why don't you back up what you said?

Where is that 1948 map of Israel?

No, you dishonest idiot hack. YOU brought it up.

Nobody gives a fuck about your petty meaningless talking pointless.

You said something that you cannot prove to be true.

Now you are trying to duck out.

YOU made the idiot comment asking about Israeli borders, you flaming imbecile.
And everyone is familiar with the pointless you hope to make by way of that quibble.

Meanwhile, after it was established as a State, we all also already know that Israel was repeatedly attacked and acquired certain border areas as additional buffers.

You may not like that fact, but fact it is.

Having another pussy tantrum (as you tend to do) will not assist you.

Man up at least a little bit.

 

[JStone]

Why? You said it why don't you back up what you said?

Where is that 1948 map of Israel?

Where is that 1948 map of Egypt? Or, don't those Pyramid thingees really exist?

Irrelevant.

No 1948 map of Egypt? You wanna tell Muslim Brotherhood Egypt doesn't really exist?

 

[P F Tinmore]

No, you dishonest idiot hack. YOU brought it up.

Nobody gives a fuck about your petty meaningless talking pointless.

You said something that you cannot prove to be true.

Now you are trying to duck out.

YOU made the idiot comment asking about Israeli borders, you flaming imbecile.
And everyone is familiar with the pointless you hope to make by way of that quibble.

Meanwhile, after it was established as a State, we all also already know that Israel was repeatedly attacked and acquired certain border areas as additional buffers.

You may not like that fact, but fact it is.

Having another pussy tantrum (as you tend to do) will not assist you.

Man up at least a little bit.

You're digging yourself in deeper.

No 1948 map of Israel. Now where are those acquired borders?

 

[Ropey]

Why? As I told you, I am not concerned with your irrational talking pointless. The State of Israel exists and its borders DID expand -- as a consequence of the aggressions against it.

There is not now and there never was a "state" of Palestine. It is a mythical construct.

Once we know those facts, the balance of your hoped-for deflection melts away.

Why? You said it why don't you back up what you said?

Where is that 1948 map of Israel?

No, you dishonest idiot hack. YOU brought it up.

Nobody gives a fuck about your petty meaningless talking pointless.

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[Liability]

You said something that you cannot prove to be true.

Now you are trying to duck out.

YOU made the idiot comment asking about Israeli borders, you flaming imbecile.
And everyone is familiar with the pointless you hope to make by way of that quibble.

Meanwhile, after it was established as a State, we all also already know that Israel was repeatedly attacked and acquired certain border areas as additional buffers.

You may not like that fact, but fact it is.

Having another pussy tantrum (as you tend to do) will not assist you.

Man up at least a little bit.

You're digging yourself in deeper.

No 1948 map of Israel. Now where are those acquired borders?

Again, YOU are the one "asking." I am utterly indifferent to your transparently fraudulent agenda.

It's not even that you are digging yourself in deeper. You are just attempting to layer yourself in more and more meaningless shit.

Israel exists. If the UN doesn't care to accept its borders and other nations choose to quibble over those borders (etc) that's a function of how it got started. But it doesn't change a thing. Israel still exists.

And the scumbag Hamas pussies (stateless rabble by the grace of God) cannot be validly heard to complain about some alleged Israeli occupation of their non-existent mythical "land."

 

[P F Tinmore]

YOU made the idiot comment asking about Israeli borders, you flaming imbecile.
And everyone is familiar with the pointless you hope to make by way of that quibble.

Meanwhile, after it was established as a State, we all also already know that Israel was repeatedly attacked and acquired certain border areas as additional buffers.

You may not like that fact, but fact it is.

Having another pussy tantrum (as you tend to do) will not assist you.

Man up at least a little bit.

You're digging yourself in deeper.

No 1948 map of Israel. Now where are those acquired borders?

Again, YOU are the one "asking." I am utterly indifferent to your transparently fraudulent agenda.

It's not even that you are digging yourself in deeper. You are just attempting to layer yourself in more and more meaningless shit.

Israel exists. If the UN doesn't care to accept its borders and other nations choose to quibble over those borders (etc) that's a function of how it got started. But it doesn't change a thing. Israel still exists.

And the scumbag Hamas pussies (stateless rabble by the grace of God) cannot be validly heard to complain about some alleged Israeli occupation of their non-existent mythical "land."

...the borders that Israel started with...

...and acquired certain border areas...

You said it. Back it up. (ridicule and negative reps don't count)

 

[JStone]

Barack Obama...:

Israel is a sovereign state, and the historic homeland of the Jewish people.

It should be clear to all that efforts to chip away at Israel's legitimacy will only be met by the unshakeable opposition of the United States.
Remarks by the President to the United Nations General Assembly | The White House

 

[Liability]

You're digging yourself in deeper.

No 1948 map of Israel. Now where are those acquired borders?

Again, YOU are the one "asking." I am utterly indifferent to your transparently fraudulent agenda.

It's not even that you are digging yourself in deeper. You are just attempting to layer yourself in more and more meaningless shit.

Israel exists. If the UN doesn't care to accept its borders and other nations choose to quibble over those borders (etc) that's a function of how it got started. But it doesn't change a thing. Israel still exists.

And the scumbag Hamas pussies (stateless rabble by the grace of God) cannot be validly heard to complain about some alleged Israeli occupation of their non-existent mythical "land."

...the borders that Israel started with...

...and acquired certain border areas...

You said it. Back it up. (ridicule and negative reps don't count)

It's still there, fuckwit. There's your proof.

And I didn't neg rep you yet.

Today.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Again, YOU are the one "asking." I am utterly indifferent to your transparently fraudulent agenda.

It's not even that you are digging yourself in deeper. You are just attempting to layer yourself in more and more meaningless shit.

Israel exists. If the UN doesn't care to accept its borders and other nations choose to quibble over those borders (etc) that's a function of how it got started. But it doesn't change a thing. Israel still exists.

And the scumbag Hamas pussies (stateless rabble by the grace of God) cannot be validly heard to complain about some alleged Israeli occupation of their non-existent mythical "land."

...and acquired certain border areas...

You said it. Back it up. (ridicule and negative reps don't count)

It's still there, fuckwit. There's your proof.

And I didn't neg rep you yet.

Today.

What is still where. You have posted no 1948 map of Israel. You have not proven "acquired border areas."

 

[Liability]

When Israel signed the armistice agreements with Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon, Ben-Gurion stated:

"The November 29[, 1947 U.N.] decision had given the Jewish state 14,920,000 dunums; now we have 20,662,000 dunums in our control. While the UN has not yet recognized our borders, Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, and Lebanon have done so." (Simha Flapan, p. 49)

In other words, Israel managed to expand its borders 38% more than the area allotted to the "Jewish state" by 1947 UN GA partition plan. It should be noted that 60% of the Israelis soldiers were killed in action, were killed in offensive actions in the areas conquered beyond areas allotted by the UN to the "Jewish state." (Simha Flapan, p. 198-199)

Expansionism (or The Greater Israel)

Or maybe, Foghorn Pinhead, you just disagree with the fuckwits at Palestine Remembered?

 

[JStone]

You said it. Back it up. (ridicule and negative reps don't count)

It's still there, fuckwit. There's your proof.

And I didn't neg rep you yet.

Today.

What is still where. You have posted no 1948 map of Israel. You have not proven "acquired border areas."

You have posted no 1948 map of Egypt. When you inform Muslim Brotherhood that Egypt doesn't really exist, you better RUN LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER!


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[Liability]

Cool.

 

[P F Tinmore]

When Israel signed the armistice agreements with Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon, Ben-Gurion stated:

"The November 29[, 1947 U.N.] decision had given the Jewish state 14,920,000 dunums; now we have 20,662,000 dunums in our control. While the UN has not yet recognized our borders, Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, and Lebanon have done so." (Simha Flapan, p. 49)

In other words, Israel managed to expand its borders 38% more than the area allotted to the "Jewish state" by 1947 UN GA partition plan. It should be noted that 60% of the Israelis soldiers were killed in action, were killed in offensive actions in the areas conquered beyond areas allotted by the UN to the "Jewish state." (Simha Flapan, p. 198-199)

Expansionism (or The Greater Israel)

Or maybe, Foghorn Pinhead, you just disagree with the fuckwits at Palestine Remembered?

These are just quotes from Simha Flapan, an Israeli writer. Are you trying to pass this off as the opinion of Palestine Remembered?

 

[Liability]

When Israel signed the armistice agreements with Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon, Ben-Gurion stated:

"The November 29[, 1947 U.N.] decision had given the Jewish state 14,920,000 dunums; now we have 20,662,000 dunums in our control. While the UN has not yet recognized our borders, Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, and Lebanon have done so." (Simha Flapan, p. 49)

In other words, Israel managed to expand its borders 38% more than the area allotted to the "Jewish state" by 1947 UN GA partition plan. It should be noted that 60% of the Israelis soldiers were killed in action, were killed in offensive actions in the areas conquered beyond areas allotted by the UN to the "Jewish state." (Simha Flapan, p. 198-199)

Expansionism (or The Greater Israel)

Or maybe, Foghorn Pinhead, you just disagree with the fuckwits at Palestine Remembered?

These are just quotes from Simha Flapan, an Israeli writer. Are you trying to pass this off as the opinion of Palestine Remembered?

Are you denying that the complaint is that Israel engaged in expansion?

You hapless dishonest fuckwit.

 

[JStone]

When Israel signed the armistice agreements with Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon, Ben-Gurion stated:

"The November 29[, 1947 U.N.] decision had given the Jewish state 14,920,000 dunums; now we have 20,662,000 dunums in our control. While the UN has not yet recognized our borders, Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, and Lebanon have done so." (Simha Flapan, p. 49)

In other words, Israel managed to expand its borders 38% more than the area allotted to the "Jewish state" by 1947 UN GA partition plan. It should be noted that 60% of the Israelis soldiers were killed in action, were killed in offensive actions in the areas conquered beyond areas allotted by the UN to the "Jewish state." (Simha Flapan, p. 198-199)

Expansionism (or The Greater Israel)

Or maybe, Foghorn Pinhead, you just disagree with the fuckwits at Palestine Remembered?

These are just quotes from Simha Flapan, an Israeli writer. Are you trying to pass this off as the opinion of Palestine Remembered?

Palestine is a bogus name for Israel. The Romans invented the word palestine and renamed Israel during the Roman Empire in an attempt to erase 1000 years of Jewish nationhood. The Roman Empire ended 1500 years ago.

Israel appears 2500 times in the Bible and Quran. Palestine, not once.

Biblical Historian and Scholar Dr. Paula Fredriksen, Professor of Religion, Boston University; Ph.D, History of Religion, Princeton University; Diploma in Theology, Oxford University

The Judean revolt against Rome was led by [Jewish rebel] Bar Kochba in 132-135 CE. The immediate causes of this rebellion are obscure. Its result was not: [Roman Emperor] Hadrian crushed the revolt and banned Jews from Judea.

The Romans now designated this territory by a political neologism, "Palestine" [a Latin form of "Philistine"], in a deliberate effort to denationalize Jewish/Judean territory. And, finally, Hadrian eradicated Jewish Jerusalem, erecting upon its ruins a new pagan city, Aelia Capitolina.
Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews by Paula Fredriksen - Book - Random House

PBS...

In 70 AD, after a siege marked by starvation and terror crucifixions, the Roman army broke through the walls of Jerusalem. Not only did they kill thousands of Jews, they laid waste to the Temple, the only place on Earth, according to Biblical law, where Jews could worship God.

It was the death of the religion of Priests and sacrifices described by the Hebrew Bible. But, it would not be the death of Judaism. In the years ahead, some of the greatest religious minds in history would struggle to reinvent the religion of Moses and David.

But, the Jews would be forced to work during a period of almost inconceivable bloodshed and turmoil. They would watch their people be expelled from Jerusalem on pain of death and see the name of their homeland changed from Judea to Palestine

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[P F Tinmore]

Cool.

Interesting map.

It has the proposed 1947 partition plan borders that never happened. So take those out.

It has the 1949 armistice lines that are not borders. So take those out.

What is left?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Expansionism (or The Greater Israel)

Or maybe, Foghorn Pinhead, you just disagree with the fuckwits at Palestine Remembered?

These are just quotes from Simha Flapan, an Israeli writer. Are you trying to pass this off as the opinion of Palestine Remembered?

Are you denying that the complaint is that Israel engaged in expansion?

You hapless dishonest fuckwit.

Of course not. Israel's expansionism is a fact.

 

[Liability]

These are just quotes from Simha Flapan, an Israeli writer. Are you trying to pass this off as the opinion of Palestine Remembered?

Are you denying that the complaint is that Israel engaged in expansion?

You hapless dishonest fuckwit.

Of course not. Israel's expansionism is a fact.

Not really.

But the point is that such is the COMPLAINT.

So what the fuck are YOU denying that for, you double-talking babbling douche?