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    Ram It Through! - The Daily Beast

    So, if the party of "NO!" feels that voting no on HC will help their party, then they will. This is a perfect example of party over country. While the bills offered by the Democrats is not perfect, the GOP has no reason to even negotiate with the Dems to bring a better Bill forward. They feel killing HC will limit Obama to one term.

    In other words, forget that HC is going to see yearly double digit increases in the coming years. The GOP is more important than looking out for the interest of the US citizen.

    Please no whiners in here when your health insurance rates go through the roof in a few years.
     
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    I have a question. If what's on the table now regarding HC doesn't go through I've read that 'that will be the end of HC reform for a long, long time'.

    Why?

    If this gets shot down, why wouldn't the Reps put away their smugness and their no-ness and the Dems put away their anger at their loss and at the Reps and both sides sit down and start over? Why wouldn't they try for something smaller, some things that would actually bring the cost down?
     
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    Good question. I don't believe it will be the end if it either.....Better to get things right in that bill than pass something just for the sake of saying you passed a bill. The consequences of a bad bill could end up causing a different kind of trouble for the American people.
     
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    as i said in another thread:

    if this is really so important and only 38% favor the current bill......why are the democrats and obama stupidly not starting over? obama claims he wants to have bi partisanship, yet he won't start over....he claims we have waited decades for this, yet he can't simply start over?
     
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    Too bad Obama, Reid and Pelosi don't see it that way. They'd prefer to get anything passed, to say they did. And then they could tweek it anyway they'd like. After the fact.

    To Nancy Pelosi ... enjoy your time as Speaker now, because you're out of there when the House flips in the fall. And I do believe it will.

    Today is a dog and pony show. Political Theater if you will. The leading role ... none other than the charismatic Barack Obama.
     
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    This "bill" needs to be killed.It does NOTHING to help Health Care and is nothing more than a series of back room deals for votes.

    Start over, this time actually listening to the American people and the Republicans. In fact make a series of smaller bills that do not involve the US Government taking over any part of the health Care Industry. Pretty simple concept.
     
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    The Republicans have made numerous suggestions including submitting a BILL. Get your facts straight. If nothing happens it will be because the Democrats refuse to do anything.
     
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    It is all about power and party, on both sides. The Dems want their power to continue and the Repubs want Obama out. The GOP will be happy to do nothing on HC. Even you far right people will agree with that. So, if nothing is done, we the American people get screwed again. CNN is right when they say Government is broken, as do others I am sure.

    We are in a sad partisan catch 22. Personally, if a real reform bill passed with a public option sometime in the future, it would benefit me. But to those who already have a "government funded" health care plan, be happy and remember when youR rates double in the next few years that we were close to real reform.

    Have you read what the GOP and Insurance companies want to hammer into HC. PLEASE!
    Why can't the GOP and Dems compromise? Power and Party! Remember it!
     
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