‘To Stop the Multiplication of the Unfit’

[Soggy in NOLA]

wow, that is just so inhumane.

What is sick is what we hear from you on the left. If you happen to have sex and by golly you get that unwanted pregnancy out of it...just abort abort abort...it's simple and painless, forget the mental guilt afterwards of realizing you just killed YOUR OWN CHILD.

Now, any comment on the article?

Sure, is the alternative to the article to have condoms, birth control pills, etc. cease to exist? Malkin must not have much sex, if any at all.

According to Sanitarium, no one should have sex.

Apparently, the rw's agree with him.

SICK SICK SICK

Rick Santorum is anti-sex now?

 

[NYcarbineer]

yeah sure she just offed birth control and was against abortions..if that makes you feel better go with it.

"While there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization." - Margaret Sanger

10. Contraceptives or Abortion? Sanger, Margaret. 1920. Woman and the New Race

I don't know why you refuse to educate yourself.

The group she started, Planned Parenthood, should probably post that quote on the wall of EVERY abortion mill they operate.

Besides, Margaret Sanger's preferred solution to the 'unfit' was sterilization...

Name the modern day adherents to the agenda of Margaret Sanger. Name the names we'll recognize.

 

[Stephanie]

wow, that is just so inhumane.

What is sick is what we hear from you on the left. If you happen to have sex and by golly you get that unwanted pregnancy out of it...just abort abort abort...it's simple and painless, forget the mental guilt afterwards of realizing you just killed YOUR OWN CHILD.

Now, any comment on the article?

Sure, is the alternative to the article to have condoms, birth control pills, etc. cease to exist? Malkin must not have much sex, if any at all.

According to Sanitarium, no one should have sex.

Apparently, the rw's agree with him.

SICK SICK SICK

are you out of junior high school?

 

[Ernie S.]

and yet santorum thinks women should bare the children of rapist? abortion is a non issue both parties have proven that......

all this talk of abortion is simply an issue of distraction

You do understand the difference between belief and public policy, don't you? President Santorum would not force rape victims to bear the children of their rapists.

Yea but... it's far more entertaining to get all hyperbolic....

Imagine the absolute horror of electing someone who does not agree with abortion! The left wing women's group think groups will go into total meltdown overload.

I believe we have elected a couple people who were personally against abortion since Roe v Wade. Last I checked, abortions were still widely available

 

[DontBeStupid]

As she wrote in her autobiography, Sanger founded Planned Parenthood in 1916 “to stop the multiplication of the unfit.” This, she boasted, would be “the most important and greatest step towards race betterment.” While she oversaw the mass murder of black babies, Sanger cynically recruited minority activists to front her death racket. She conspired with eugenics financier and businessman Clarence Gamble to “hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities” to sell their genocidal policies as community health and welfare services.

By the way, this entire paragraph is a bastardization of what Sanger wrote and believed. It is no way accurate.

It is entirely accurate.. deal with it and stop being so stupid... you lefties readily embrace and promote a culture of death and misery.

No. It's not.

That is not the reason she founded Planned Parenthood. She did not oversee the murder of black babies. She did not hire ministers to "sell their genocidal policies".

I mean, shit, did any of you take 2 minutes to research any of this? Or are you just blindly taking Malkin's word for it?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Around here, in group homes for the mentally handicapped, female residents are given birth control pills.

Anyone think that's a bad idea?????

Well, given the example that is you, no.

I have an IQ of 140 and a job.

What are your credentials?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Eugenics was a very popular 'science' of the early 20th century, and many of its most zealous proponents were conservatives.

You're full of shit, dude. All you need do is take 10 minutes to educate yourself and you would find that the supporters of eugenics were Progressives, not Conservatives.

Though not all progressives or socialists were eugenicists, many individuals of influence in the United States and other countries who affiliated themselves with those schools of thought were indeed supporters of eugenics. Some of the more famous supporters were President Teddy Roosevelt, John Maynard Keynes, President Woodrow Wilson, Bertrand Russell, Alexander Graham Bell, George Bernard Shaw, Harry Laughlin, H.G. Wells, Margaret Sanger, foundations connected to the Rockefellers, Harrimans, and Carnegies, Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, and others.

You left out Adolph Hitler and every person who adhered to that aspect of Nazism, for starters.

 

[GuyPinestra]

Eugenics was a very popular 'science' of the early 20th century, and many of its most zealous proponents were conservatives.

You're full of shit, dude. All you need do is take 10 minutes to educate yourself and you would find that the supporters of eugenics were Progressives, not Conservatives.

Though not all progressives or socialists were eugenicists, many individuals of influence in the United States and other countries who affiliated themselves with those schools of thought were indeed supporters of eugenics. Some of the more famous supporters were President Teddy Roosevelt, John Maynard Keynes, President Woodrow Wilson, Bertrand Russell, Alexander Graham Bell, George Bernard Shaw, Harry Laughlin, H.G. Wells, Margaret Sanger, foundations connected to the Rockefellers, Harrimans, and Carnegies, Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, and others.

You left out Adolph Hitler and every person who adhered to that aspect of Nazism, for starters.

I'm glad you're willing to admit that Hitler is one of your heroes, as well as the rest of that list.

 

[DontBeStupid]

As she wrote in her autobiography, Sanger founded Planned Parenthood in 1916 “to stop the multiplication of the unfit.” This, she boasted, would be “the most important and greatest step towards race betterment.” While she oversaw the mass murder of black babies, Sanger cynically recruited minority activists to front her death racket. She conspired with eugenics financier and businessman Clarence Gamble to “hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities” to sell their genocidal policies as community health and welfare services.

By the way, this entire paragraph is a bastardization of what Sanger wrote and believed. It is no way accurate.

well I'm sure you have the proof of that?

Yeah, I do.

1) Malkin provides zero sources for her claim Sanger murdered black babies. She provides zero sources because it is a blatant lie.

2) Margaret Sanger's eugenic legacy: the control of female fertility - Angela Franks - Google Books

Read the page Malkin is quoting and you will see nothing about founding Planned Parenthood for the reasons given.

3) She was asked by leaders of the African American Community to open a clinic in Harlem, which she did. There was no "conspiring".
Margaret Sanger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (links to additional sources at that site)

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

"While there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization." - Margaret Sanger

10. Contraceptives or Abortion? Sanger, Margaret. 1920. Woman and the New Race

I don't know why you refuse to educate yourself.

The group she started, Planned Parenthood, should probably post that quote on the wall of EVERY abortion mill they operate.

Besides, Margaret Sanger's preferred solution to the 'unfit' was sterilization...

Name the modern day adherents to the agenda of Margaret Sanger. Name the names we'll recognize.

THE DEMOCRAT PARTY. They readily endorse/promote her organization/agenda.

You're welcome.

 

[newpolitics]

If that makes you feel better.....

This has nothing to do with feelings. There is a point during pregnancy up until which a group of cells is not a human. Don't act so self-righteous about your position when it is informed by religion, because religion does not make your position any more valid.

hey, if that makes you feel better to look at that way..

really, you're just going to repeat what you just said? It obviously makes you feel better to believe what you believe. My beliefs happen to adhere to a physical and biological reality. Your beliefs adhere to arbitrary religious ideology which may sometimes coincide with reality, but most of the time, don't.

 

[CaughtInTheMid]

i don't see how you guys can listen to the extremely biased political opinion people (on either side). but it does make 'em a lot of money.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Around here, in group homes for the mentally handicapped, female residents are given birth control pills.

Anyone think that's a bad idea?????

Well, given the example that is you, no.

I have an IQ of 140 and a job.

What are your credentials?

Sorry, the evidence contradicts your assertions.

 

[Stephanie]

This has nothing to do with feelings. There is a point during pregnancy up until which a group of cells is not a human. Don't act so self-righteous about your position when it is informed by religion, because religion does not make your position any more valid.

hey, if that makes you feel better to look at that way..

really, you're just going to repeat what you just said? It obviously makes you feel better to believe what you believe. My beliefs happen to adhere to a physical and biological reality. Your beliefs adhere to arbitrary religious ideology which may sometimes coincide with reality, but most of the time, don't.

are you a man or a woman?

 

[Ernie S.]

Let me repeat my question to you:

Do you think it's wrong to discourage poor women from having babies? Especially, many babies?

What exactly do you mean by "discourage"?

Hey, if you don't have the guts to answer the question, just don't reply. Don't waste my time with some lame dodge.

The fact is that 99% of the rightwingers on this board and everywhere else believe that poor people should limit their rate of reproduction, i.e., should refrain from having babies they can't afford to raise.

Pretty much.
Poor people should limit their rate of reproduction to the number of children they are capable of supporting. If you hate the fact that some people are poor, why breed more?
I had 4 children. I didn't depend on the government for help feeding them. Early on I did accept short term help from my family, on a couple of occasions but what I did long term was gain the qualifications that would allow me to earn more money.
Rich people do not breed poor children. They are not responsible in any way for creating poverty. They don't force poor people to have sex. Why then, are they responsible for supporting the product of irresponsibility?

 

[BlindBoo]

You're full of shit, dude. All you need do is take 10 minutes to educate yourself and you would find that the supporters of eugenics were Progressives, not Conservatives.

Though not all progressives or socialists were eugenicists, many individuals of influence in the United States and other countries who affiliated themselves with those schools of thought were indeed supporters of eugenics. Some of the more famous supporters were President Teddy Roosevelt, John Maynard Keynes, President Woodrow Wilson, Bertrand Russell, Alexander Graham Bell, George Bernard Shaw, Harry Laughlin, H.G. Wells, Margaret Sanger, foundations connected to the Rockefellers, Harrimans, and Carnegies, Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, and others.

You left out Adolph Hitler and every person who adhered to that aspect of Nazism, for starters.

I'm glad you're willing to admit that Hitler is one of your heroes, as well as the rest of that list.

Hitler was not a liberal progressive. No matter how many time you read Goldbergs' book.......

Next why don't you tell me that the Nazis had Socialist in there name so therefore they must be liberals.

 

[Ernie S.]

wow, that is just so inhumane.

What is sick is what we hear from you on the left. If you happen to have sex and by golly you get that unwanted pregnancy out of it...just abort abort abort...it's simple and painless, forget the mental guilt afterwards of realizing you just killed YOUR OWN CHILD.

Now, any comment on the article?

Sure, is the alternative to the article to have condoms, birth control pills, etc. cease to exist? Malkin must not have much sex, if any at all.

According to Sanitarium, no one should have sex.

Apparently, the rw's agree with him.

SICK SICK SICK

I'm sure you can link to quotes, then.

 

[newpolitics]

hey, if that makes you feel better to look at that way..

really, you're just going to repeat what you just said? It obviously makes you feel better to believe what you believe. My beliefs happen to adhere to a physical and biological reality. Your beliefs adhere to arbitrary religious ideology which may sometimes coincide with reality, but most of the time, don't.

are you a man or a woman?

I don't understand the relevance of the question. Are you going to attempt to undermine my position if I answer? Because, knowing you, I see that happening.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

And yet,

in just about every discussion around here about the poor, about social spending, welfare etc.,

the first admonition to those poor you hear from the Right is...

...stop having so many babies!!!!!!!!!

It is part of the general deal of be responsible, don't do things you can't pay for meme. If you can't pay for the baby, keep it zipped. If you make the baby it is your responsibility to take care of it.

 

[DontBeStupid]

And yet,

in just about every discussion around here about the poor, about social spending, welfare etc.,

the first admonition to those poor you hear from the Right is...

...stop having so many babies!!!!!!!!!

It is part of the general deal of be responsible, don't do things you can't pay for meme. If you can't pay for the baby, keep it zipped. If you make the baby it is your responsibility to take care of it.

So ... you think people should never have sex ever unless they plan on having and raising a kid.

Wow ...