Tis that time of year again.

[Skull Pilot]

Yes it is patriotic to keep the government in check.

Its also patriotic to pay your taxes.

I pay my fucking taxes. I report every dime of income I make but the fucking government always wants more.



Never advocated for either of those idiotic options.



If more people saved their money, they might not be in such dire straits. I save a lot of money because I live well below my means. In fact my wife and I live as if we make half of our actual income.



I am a corporation and I am a citizen

Yet they require NONE of the responsibilities of a citizen from ccorps.

Again you know jack fucking squat about being a business owner so why should anyone listen to you?

Because my vote holds just as much weight as yours does.

You are NOT a better citizen than me because you say you own a business

Feeling a little inferior are we because that sounds like you're being defensive.

I never put a moral value on taxes. You seem to know that businesses can afford to pay the higher taxes you advocate yet you know nothing about running a business. So again why should anyone listen to you as to what a business can or can't pay?

 

[Wry Catcher]

It's patriotic to keep the fucking government in check not to write them a check.

One more example of an emotional reaction seeking a simple solution to complex problems.
I suppose that's what appeals the most to those who support the tea party movement. In a way such thinking is little different than a petty criminal who risks decades in prison by committing a robbery where a few dollars is the take.

Who said I supported the ta party? Certainly not I. I have been a small government advocate for 20 years or more. Well before there even was a tea party.

And if people would take a little responsibility for their decisions, your complex problems would not seem so complex.

I didn't suggest you supported the tea party movement, though it is a fair inference for you to draw, given my comment. You may very well not support a movement lead by some whose mental health and intelligence are suspect; but the idea that the problems of our society are less than complex and simple solutions exist is absurd.
Also absurd is the theater being proposed by the new majority in the House of Representatives. Rather than define problems and seek solutions a stage play is proposed and the Constitution being read aloud will be the opening act.

 

[Skull Pilot]

One more example of an emotional reaction seeking a simple solution to complex problems.
I suppose that's what appeals the most to those who support the tea party movement. In a way such thinking is little different than a petty criminal who risks decades in prison by committing a robbery where a few dollars is the take.

Who said I supported the ta party? Certainly not I. I have been a small government advocate for 20 years or more. Well before there even was a tea party.

And if people would take a little responsibility for their decisions, your complex problems would not seem so complex.

I didn't suggest you supported the tea party movement, though it is a fair inference for you to draw, given my comment. You may very well not support a movement lead by some whose mental health and intelligence are suspect; but the idea that the problems of our society are less than complex and simple solutions exist is absurd.
Also absurd is the theater being proposed by the new majority in the House of Representatives. Rather than define problems and seek solutions a stage play is proposed and the Constitution being read aloud will be the opening act.

Making things overly complex by concentrating on the problem and not the solution is how we got a 2000 page health care "reform" bill that no one read signed into law.

 

[Truthmatters]

I pay my fucking taxes. I report every dime of income I make but the fucking government always wants more.



Never advocated for either of those idiotic options.



If more people saved their money, they might not be in such dire straits. I save a lot of money because I live well below my means. In fact my wife and I live as if we make half of our actual income.



I am a corporation and I am a citizen



Again you know jack fucking squat about being a business owner so why should anyone listen to you?

Because my vote holds just as much weight as yours does.

You are NOT a better citizen than me because you say you own a business

Feeling a little inferior are we because that sounds like you're being defensive.

I never put a moral value on taxes. You seem to know that businesses can afford to pay the higher taxes you advocate yet you know nothing about running a business. So again why should anyone listen to you as to what a business can or can't pay?

Why do you ignore the facts I already gave you which shows the big corps are sitting on cash hoards?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Because my vote holds just as much weight as yours does.

You are NOT a better citizen than me because you say you own a business

Feeling a little inferior are we because that sounds like you're being defensive.

I never put a moral value on taxes. You seem to know that businesses can afford to pay the higher taxes you advocate yet you know nothing about running a business. So again why should anyone listen to you as to what a business can or can't pay?

Why do you ignore the facts I already gave you which shows the big corps are sitting on cash hoards?

because since it is their money or the money of their stockholders, they can do or not do whatever the fuck they want with it that's why.

what is so hard to understand about the concept of private property?

 

[boedicca]

The first half of my property taxes are due on January 10.

Thrity-seven hundred bucks down the crapper and what do I get for it, the "privilege of sending other people's kids to school. What do I look like, Rockerfeller? Send your own damn kids to school and leave me alone.

How's that, whiney enough for you?

Boody maybe you should be talking shit to this guy instead of me then you fucking partisan hack

Charming as always, and completely unconvincing.

Your keyboard must be crusted over with filth.

 

[boedicca]

Feeling a little inferior are we because that sounds like you're being defensive.

I never put a moral value on taxes. You seem to know that businesses can afford to pay the higher taxes you advocate yet you know nothing about running a business. So again why should anyone listen to you as to what a business can or can't pay?

Why do you ignore the facts I already gave you which shows the big corps are sitting on cash hoards?

because since it is their money or the money of their stockholders, they can do or not do whatever the fuck they want with it that's why.

what is so hard to understand about the concept of private property?

Ooh Oooh! I know!

TM only parrots talking points. She's never had a real thought form in the foggy recesses of her brain in her entire pseudo lifetime.

 

[Truthmatters]

Feeling a little inferior are we because that sounds like you're being defensive.

I never put a moral value on taxes. You seem to know that businesses can afford to pay the higher taxes you advocate yet you know nothing about running a business. So again why should anyone listen to you as to what a business can or can't pay?

Why do you ignore the facts I already gave you which shows the big corps are sitting on cash hoards?

because since it is their money or the money of their stockholders, they can do or not do whatever the fuck they want with it that's why.

what is so hard to understand about the concept of private property?

Then why give them a tax cut to spur jobs like you clowns have been claiming for decades?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Who said I supported the ta party? Certainly not I. I have been a small government advocate for 20 years or more. Well before there even was a tea party.

And if people would take a little responsibility for their decisions, your complex problems would not seem so complex.

I didn't suggest you supported the tea party movement, though it is a fair inference for you to draw, given my comment. You may very well not support a movement lead by some whose mental health and intelligence are suspect; but the idea that the problems of our society are less than complex and simple solutions exist is absurd.
Also absurd is the theater being proposed by the new majority in the House of Representatives. Rather than define problems and seek solutions a stage play is proposed and the Constitution being read aloud will be the opening act.

Making things overly complex by concentrating on the problem and not the solution is how we got a 2000 page health care "reform" bill that no one read signed into law.

No. Not defining the problem clealy created an atmosphere for the debate to become a pissing contest; when proposed solutions are not fuly vetted, those who profit from the status quo are able to obfuscate a proposed solution using pejoratives, half-truths, red herrings and slippery slope arguments. In other words using emotion as a weapon against reason.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Why do you ignore the facts I already gave you which shows the big corps are sitting on cash hoards?

because since it is their money or the money of their stockholders, they can do or not do whatever the fuck they want with it that's why.

what is so hard to understand about the concept of private property?

Then why give them a tax cut to spur jobs like you clowns have been claiming for decades?

I don't remember ever saying to give business a tax cut. I do however remember saying that we (businesses and individuals) pay too much in taxes

 

[Truthmatters]

since when?

The taxes have been cut and cut.

 

[boedicca]

I don't remember ever saying to give business a tax cut. I do however remember saying that we (businesses and individuals) pay too much in taxes

I'll say it for you. Canada's business tax rate is 16.5%, less than half of the U.S. corporate tax rate.

Given how much the moonbats Love Canadian Economic Policies, they should be in favor of cutting corporate taxes.

 

[Skull Pilot]

since when?

The taxes have been cut and cut.

And we still have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world and you wonder why companies go overseas?

 

[Wry Catcher]

because since it is their money or the money of their stockholders, they can do or not do whatever the fuck they want with it that's why.

what is so hard to understand about the concept of private property?

Then why give them a tax cut to spur jobs like you clowns have been claiming for decades?

I don't remember ever saying to give business a tax cut. I do however remember saying that we (businesses and individuals) pay too much in taxes

How do you figure what is too much? At some point one must focus on the benefits not the cost. In other words, what benefits which you recieve would you cut off?
My #1 son is here and we're off to the gym. I'll check back later to see what you chose to cut out.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Then why give them a tax cut to spur jobs like you clowns have been claiming for decades?

I don't remember ever saying to give business a tax cut. I do however remember saying that we (businesses and individuals) pay too much in taxes

How do you figure what is too much? At some point one must focus on the benefits not the cost. In other words, what benefits which you recieve would you cut off?
My #1 son is here and we're off to the gym. I'll check back later to see what you chose to cut out.

If you can't realize that the billions wasted by government is the problem then any reduction in taxes would be too much for you.

 

[Truthmatters]

since when?

The taxes have been cut and cut.

And we still have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world and you wonder why companies go overseas?

Wrong
Quick Fact: Welch overstates U.S. corporate tax burden | Media Matters for America



Fact: World Bank study found U.S. effective corporate tax rate lower than those of several industrialized nations
In its Paying Taxes 2009 publication, based on its 2009 Doing Business report, the World Bank-International Finance Corp. estimated that the United States has a lower effective rate of current corporate tax than that of several other nations, including Germany, Canada, India, China, Brazil, Japan, and Italy. The publication also included a figure that compared effective and statutory corporate tax rates for several G-8 and BRIC [Brazil, Russia, India, China] countries:

 

[boedicca]

TM doesn't grok that 35% is a bigger number than 16.5%.

 

[Truthmatters]

You dont understand anything but what glenn beck pulls out of his ass

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

since when?

The taxes have been cut and cut.

And we still have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world and you wonder why companies go overseas?

Wrong
Quick Fact: Welch overstates U.S. corporate tax burden | Media Matters for America



Fact: World Bank study found U.S. effective corporate tax rate lower than those of several industrialized nations
In its Paying Taxes 2009 publication, based on its 2009 Doing Business report, the World Bank-International Finance Corp. estimated that the United States has a lower effective rate of current corporate tax than that of several other nations, including Germany, Canada, India, China, Brazil, Japan, and Italy. The publication also included a figure that compared effective and statutory corporate tax rates for several G-8 and BRIC [Brazil, Russia, India, China] countries:

REVIEW & OUTLOOKJANUARY 3, 2011
Canada's Competitive Edge
A warmer climate for capital up north.

It wasn't long ago that Americans viewed Canada as a poorer neighbor with only one competitive advantage—in hockey. No more: On January 1, Ottawa cut the nation's corporate tax rate to 16.5% from 18%, compared to the U.S. federal rate of 35%.

This isn't a new trend up north. Canada starting cutting corporate taxes in the 1990s under the Liberal government of Paul Martin and has since enjoyed a virtuous cycle of investment, job creation and growth. The trend has continued under Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who has pledged to take the rate to 15% by 2012. Even Canada's Socialist-run provinces have followed suit by lightening the tax burden on business.



This is part of a global trend, as a European Commission report last year noted that Europe's average corporate tax rate has dropped below 25%. By contrast, the U.S. rate is close to 40% if you add state corporate taxes to the federal levy. That competes with Japan for highest in the world, and even Japanese politicians say they want to cut their corporate rate.

Review & Outlook: Canada's Competitive Edge - WSJ.com

 

[Skull Pilot]

You dont understand anything but what glenn beck pulls out of his ass

I have never watched Beck in fact I'll wager you've watched more than most.