This republican party since 1980 has a serious touch of facism in their portfolio

[freedombecki]

Not only that this republican party since 1980 has added a serious touch of facism to their portfolio that which forcibly suppress opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism. Turning all our tax dollars over to corporate america = facism in my definition.

Although essentially correct I wouldn’t go so far as to call it ‘fascism.’

Since the 60s, certainly, we’ve seen an increase in authoritarianism in conservative dogma.

Thank you for your post, C_Clayton_Jones, and I realize it is crystal clear the outcome, but we are so enthusiastic about the Bill of Rights and freedom that when people come along who try to make government do more than the constitution requires, we try to rein in the spending that is the hallmark of a government that devotes too much money on selected members of an oligarchy. We started off with just people who didn't have much and lost confidence in a monarch who wouldn't bother himself to listen to common folk on other shores who simply wanted a hearing of issues as we saw it, and overlords were part of the problem to start with--overlords who were unsympathetic to the people who were regarded as little more than serfs.

Big government is too like what we broke away from 236 years ago. And the people who run it want more than taxpayers are willing to pay. Also, the "Middle Class" is composed of proud, contributing American citizens. We are not particularly excited about extracting excessive taxes from other Americans, because a free market requires that people have some spending money to keep it going.

We're not going to let someone with a book that the failing EU founded its tax-and-spending policies upon followed, only to be eaten from within with too many problems people got along for the past few eons by solving their own problems.

In fact, we think the American founders got it exactly right, and we're not blinded by people who go buy a seat in Congress so they can funnel money from taxpayers to their own families and purse.

If protecting what our forefathers fought and died for means we have to be a little "authoritarian," you ain't seen nothing yet. We will take the predators out of Congress like Nancy Pelosi, who spends all her focus on setting up deals to leave taxpayers holding the bag if her beloved or nephews want to make a shaky half-billion dollar or better loan for a business than has never proved to succeed financially. We need to get rid of the Golden Parachute Gang. Soon.

 

[bripat9643]

Well..........it's really no surprise, because the GOP has been moving steadily towards the right.

Textbook definition of fascism is an extreme right wing political view.

That's communist propaganda. Fascism is a form of socialism. It's a left-wing ideology, in other words.

 

[bripat9643]

Not only that this republican party since 1980 has added a serious touch of facism to their portfolio that which forcibly suppress opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism. Turning all our tax dollars over to corporate america = facism in my definition.

Although essentially correct I wouldn’t go so far as to call it ‘fascism.’

So it's fascism, only not? How would you know whether it's correct? Based on what?

Since the 60s, certainly, we’ve seen an increase in authoritarianism in conservative dogma.

Actually we've seen precisely the opposite. In addition, nothing could be more authoritarian than the Democrat agenda. Obamacare is one massive dose of authoritarianism. Every year Democrats add thousands of pages of regulations to the federal register, then they turn around and call conservatives "authoritarian." Democrats simply don't care what words mean.

 

[g5000]

Not only that this republican party since 1980 has added a serious touch of facism to their portfolio that which forcibly suppress opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism. Turning all our tax dollars over to corporate america = facism in my definition.

I have a feeling you looked up the definition of fascism and then phrased your post accordingly.

Can you provide us with examples of "regimenting all industry, commerce, etc."?

Examples of "forcibly suppress opposition and criticism" would also be helpful.

 

[bripat9643]

If you cheer when the police get physical with protesters--

If you feel that some people have no business voting--

If you feel that diplomacy is nothing but appeasement--

If you feel there is no such thing as universal rights then you might be a fascist.

You just called Winston Churchill a fascist.

 

[Chris]

The Republican Party isn't so much facism as it is government of the monied interests.

Similar to the monopolies that Teddy Roosevelt opposed.

Teddy would be a Dem today.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Plutocrats in other words.......

NOW I get it.........G O P............Guardians Of Plutocracy.

 

[whitehall]

Merrill seems to be severely out of touch with h/is/er understanding of political reality. Can we agree that capitalism is the exact opposite of fascism? Maybe fools on the left depend on their union based education system to dumb down Americans to the point where they can't tell the difference. The left has been whining about alleged uncontrolled capitalism and here they come whining about GOP fascism? Nothing makes sense if you listen to the whining of the far-far-out of touch left who probably depend on Alinsky for their daily dose of propaganda.

 

[freedombecki]

The Republican Party isn't so much facism as it is government of the monied interests.

Similar to the monopolies that Teddy Roosevelt opposed.

Teddy would be a Dem today.

It's interesting you would say that because another left poster goes around bragging about how much money Obama has gleaned from people in his party. Truth is, Democrats are well-heeled jet-setters by getting each other cushy deals at the expense of us in the middle class. Today, the only truly big business to worry about is the size and scope of the federal government. That's why Teddy would be a Republican today. The four trillion than has been spent in three years is probably more money that was ever printed up to Teddy's last day in office, which he would find quite revolting.

 

[Chris]

Plutocrats in other words.......

NOW I get it.........G O P............Guardians Of Plutocracy.

That's good.

Greedy Old People's party.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Plutocrats in other words.......

NOW I get it.........G O P............Guardians Of Plutocracy.

That's good.

Greedy Old People's party.

Actually, I started out calling them the Greedy Odd People, because all the shit they've said didn't make sense or have any logic.

 

[Chris]

The Republican Party isn't so much facism as it is government of the monied interests.

Similar to the monopolies that Teddy Roosevelt opposed.

Teddy would be a Dem today.

It's interesting you would say that because another left poster goes around bragging about how much money Obama has gleaned from people in his party. Truth is, Democrats are well-heeled jet-setters by getting each other cushy deals at the expense of us in the middle class. Today, the only truly big business to worry about is the size and scope of the federal government. That's why Teddy would be a Republican today. The four trillion than has been spent in three years is probably more money that was ever printed up to Teddy's last day in office, which he would find quite revolting.

Horseshit.

The only way to stop a deflationary spiral is to spend money.

Even the Chamber of Commerce supported the stimulus.

Now that the economy is back on footing, Obama is going to let the Bush tax cuts expire at the end of this year, and the automatic trillion dollar cuts kick in in Jan of 2013.

Then you will complain when the economy slows down because of the cuts.

 

[Chris]

Plutocrats in other words.......

NOW I get it.........G O P............Guardians Of Plutocracy.

That's good.

Greedy Old People's party.

Actually, I started out calling them the Greedy Odd People, because all the shit they've said didn't make sense or have any logic.

That is why only 6% of scientists are Republicans.

Because science involves facts.

 

[tinydancer]

That defines today's 'liberals' (who are not Liberals, they are progressives who are too chickenshit scared to say they are).

And, why is it that you are ok with the Dems being funded by Soros but not ok with the Kock Brothers supporting the right? Surely, if you are a rational person, neither is acceptable?

I'm a progressive and there has been very little progressiveness going on in the Democratic Party and hasn't been for the past twenty years or more.

I'd kill to have a conversation with a true Dem these days. I know a few and I cherish them.

Welcome to crazy town though. It's hand to hand combat over politics but we still can share recipes when needed.

This is a great place to be. Stay awhile and put your armor on.

 

[tinydancer]

That's good.

Greedy Old People's party.

Actually, I started out calling them the Greedy Odd People, because all the shit they've said didn't make sense or have any logic.

That is why only 6% of scientists are Republicans.

Because science involves facts.

94% don't take cash to skewer results. Oh I get it. You were only talking about the 6% that are taking money from the government to arrive at a certain result.

Okey dokey. I get it now.

 

[LibertyForAll]

What we really have is a Corporate Oligarchy or at least an Oligarchy.

 

[bripat9643]

The Republican Party isn't so much facism as it is government of the monied interests.

Similar to the monopolies that Teddy Roosevelt opposed.

Teddy would be a Dem today.

The only monopolies we have in this country are all government enforced.

 

[rdean]

Democrats who come in with their populist approach supporting of the rights and power of the people backed with a touch of socialism cannot stop now. Public education, more funding for higher education,IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance,Social Services and people employed by the government to run the admin services would be examples populist and socialism working together. Populist supporters are excellent for generating a solid capitalist economy.

The RINO dominated irresponsible government has big bucks behind them. Wal-Mart family money and Koch brothers are going not only after democrats but some republicans as well.

Not only that this republican party since 1980 has added a serious touch of facism to their portfolio that which forcibly suppress opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism. Turning all our tax dollars over to corporate america = facism in my definition.

Fascism promotes political violence and war as actions that create national regeneration, spirit and vitality. It views violence as a fact of life that is a necessary means to achieve human progress.

It exalts militarism as providing positive transformation in society and providing spiritual renovation, education, instilling of a will to dominate in people's character and creating national comradeship through military service.

Fascists commonly utilize paramilitary organizations for violent attacks on opponents or to overthrow a political system.

Again democrats come in with their populist approach supporting of the rights and power of the people backed with a touch of socialism work well together.

Public education, more funding for higher education,IMPROVED Medicare Single Payer Insurance,Social Services and people employed by the government to run the admin services would be populist and socialism working together. This system also brings our tax dollars home to each of our communities. This system supports retail,culture,real estate,landscaping industry etc etc etc.

Good post, though I believe many Democrats have moved to the right also.

I don't see how. The Democratic Party is a coalition party made up of minorities and whites not welcome in the Republican Party. What this actually does is make the contrast between the two parties even more stark.

Republicans have overused the "But Democrats do it" card for far too long. Why can't they ever take responsibility for anything they do?

 

[rdean]

Fucking pay your own way, loser.

You are so assuming...

Your post was bullshit from start to finish.

Interestingly, I have seen several references to 'revolution' on this board over the past week or so.... every fucking one was from your idiot borg on the left. That 'violence' you talk about.... it's coming from your side.

Wow, something struck a nerve.

If you think about it, "take our country back" and "return to the good old days" and all the "social agendas" are more revolution than anything Democrats have proposed. Where are the bills on the left wanting to limit people's rights. Unless "I reserve the right to hate the gays" really is a right. Not sure how.

 

[Charles_Main]

The Republican Party isn't so much facism as it is government of the monied interests.

Similar to the monopolies that Teddy Roosevelt opposed.

Teddy would be a Dem today.

And JFk would be a Republican.