This photo captures the difference between socialists and freedom loving capitalists...

[rightwinger]

Now for your Marxist street, replace "people's homes" with "party leadership" and tear down most of the houses and replace homeless people with "the rest"

Strawman

 

[2aguy]

Here you go...this explains things pretty well.....

The only problem is that everyone can't live like that. It would be awesome if we all could, but an overclass is only supported by an underclass. The people living in this house only get to live like they do because enough people living in Section 8 and the trailer park across town bust their asses to make it possible.

Sorry...everyone lives better....American homes are better than homes in foreign countries.....our poor are richer than their middle class....and how does having people collecting money off of the government help the rich buy houses...did you think that through?

 

[kaz]

Now for your Marxist street, replace "people's homes" with "party leadership" and tear down most of the houses and replace homeless people with "the rest"

Strawman

Not according to your 93,000 posts

 

[Clementine]

The capitalist will say...I got mine, fuck everyone else

Clearly, you are not a capitalist. Only a true socialist/communist/fascist would even say that.

That way of thinking is exactly what the OP was saying. You see someone in a nice house and assume that they don't give a shit about anyone else. You have a big chip on your shoulder and resent those who believe in capitalism and do well. You really don't understand why some do well or why you don't have to be wealthy to live in a nice house. The average middle class American has a nice house and car and they still work very hard for what they have. Hell, our poor live better than the average people in other countries.

Republicans donate more to charity than Democrats, which shows who cares about the poor. There have been several threads/posts on that here in the forum, so don't ask for links. Look them up.

Dems want to confiscate wealth from others to win votes. Repubs want people to actually elevate themselves and have shown a willingness to help them do that. The left resents it when people seek independence from government. You see, the right wants more people doing well and reducing the need of nanny government because big government is oppressive and ultimately keeps people down.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The dirty unregulated rivers and air of China that has allowed corporations to do as they please is a modern display on how fucked your ideas are.


America and Europe use to be like this before government put in place intelligent regulations.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The capitalist will say...I got mine, fuck everyone else

Clearly, you are not a capitalist. Only a true socialist/communist/fascist would even say that.

That way of thinking is exactly what the OP was saying. You see someone in a nice house and assume that they don't give a shit about anyone else. You have a big chip on your shoulder and resent those who believe in capitalism and do well. You really don't understand why some do well or why you don't have to be wealthy to live in a nice house. The average middle class American has a nice house and car and they still work very hard for what they have. Hell, our poor live better than the average people in other countries.

Republicans donate more to charity than Democrats, which shows who cares about the poor. There have been several threads/posts on that here in the forum, so don't ask for links. Look them up.

Dems want to confiscate wealth from others to win votes. Repubs want people to actually elevate themselves and have shown a willingness to help them do that. The left resents it when people seek independence from government. You see, the right wants more people doing well and reducing the need of nanny government because big government is oppressive and ultimately keeps people down.

Idiot, I believe in social-democracy. What's that? Regulated capitalism and a public sector in areas that need it. Name a single first world country with a high per capita that isn't. Loserterism sucks.

 

[kaz]

The capitalist will say...I got mine, fuck everyone else

Clearly, you are not a capitalist. Only a true socialist/communist/fascist would even say that.

That way of thinking is exactly what the OP was saying. You see someone in a nice house and assume that they don't give a shit about anyone else. You have a big chip on your shoulder and resent those who believe in capitalism and do well. You really don't understand why some do well or why you don't have to be wealthy to live in a nice house. The average middle class American has a nice house and car and they still work very hard for what they have. Hell, our poor live better than the average people in other countries.

Republicans donate more to charity than Democrats, which shows who cares about the poor. There have been several threads/posts on that here in the forum, so don't ask for links. Look them up.

Dems want to confiscate wealth from others to win votes. Repubs want people to actually elevate themselves and have shown a willingness to help them do that. The left resents it when people seek independence from government. You see, the right wants more people doing well and reducing the need of nanny government because big government is oppressive and ultimately keeps people down.

If the left are the ones who support choice, why are they the ones who need to use force to get their way?

 

[nat4900]

You really need to start paying attention when Democrats talk. Maybe put down the kool-aid first. The wealthy and businesses are blamed for everything in this country by Democrats just like you blame the "brown people"

Oh yeah....and we're DOUBLY pissed off at a wealthy AND "brown" person, right?.........................(WHAT AN IDIOT !!!!)

 

[2aguy]

The dirty unregulated rivers and air of China that has allowed corporations to do as they please is a modern display on how fucked your ideas are.


America and Europe use to be like this before government put in place intelligent regulations.

No....what happened was capitialism in America and Europe made people rich....rich people like clean things, nice things.....China is just now trying to shake off the worst type of socialism and so what they do isn't up to par yet...as soon as they let capitialism make their people rich, all of their people, then they will demand a cleaner environment....you look at the start of the wealth process and complain...wait till the end, and they will clean up just like we did....

 

[kaz]

The capitalist will say...I got mine, fuck everyone else

Clearly, you are not a capitalist. Only a true socialist/communist/fascist would even say that.

That way of thinking is exactly what the OP was saying. You see someone in a nice house and assume that they don't give a shit about anyone else. You have a big chip on your shoulder and resent those who believe in capitalism and do well. You really don't understand why some do well or why you don't have to be wealthy to live in a nice house. The average middle class American has a nice house and car and they still work very hard for what they have. Hell, our poor live better than the average people in other countries.

Republicans donate more to charity than Democrats, which shows who cares about the poor. There have been several threads/posts on that here in the forum, so don't ask for links. Look them up.

Dems want to confiscate wealth from others to win votes. Repubs want people to actually elevate themselves and have shown a willingness to help them do that. The left resents it when people seek independence from government. You see, the right wants more people doing well and reducing the need of nanny government because big government is oppressive and ultimately keeps people down.

Idiot, I am believe in social-democracy. What's that? Regulated capitalism and a public sector in areas that need it. Name a single first world country with a high per capita that isn't. Loserterism sucks.

That's not what this means, "The capitalist will say...I got mine, fuck everyone else." Why would I say that just because I earned what I have?

Left wingers constantly justify taking money from people who earned it while you kick us in the teeth and blame us for wanting to keep money we earned

 

[ScienceRocks]

The capitalist will say...I got mine, fuck everyone else

Clearly, you are not a capitalist. Only a true socialist/communist/fascist would even say that.

That way of thinking is exactly what the OP was saying. You see someone in a nice house and assume that they don't give a shit about anyone else. You have a big chip on your shoulder and resent those who believe in capitalism and do well. You really don't understand why some do well or why you don't have to be wealthy to live in a nice house. The average middle class American has a nice house and car and they still work very hard for what they have. Hell, our poor live better than the average people in other countries.

Republicans donate more to charity than Democrats, which shows who cares about the poor. There have been several threads/posts on that here in the forum, so don't ask for links. Look them up.

Dems want to confiscate wealth from others to win votes. Repubs want people to actually elevate themselves and have shown a willingness to help them do that. The left resents it when people seek independence from government. You see, the right wants more people doing well and reducing the need of nanny government because big government is oppressive and ultimately keeps people down.

If the left are the ones who support choice, why are they the ones who need to use force to get their way?

What other way do we have clean air, water, food and workers rights? History proves without a shallow of a doubt that unregulated capitalism doesn't do that. Force is a part of life.

 

[2aguy]

The dirty unregulated rivers and air of China that has allowed corporations to do as they please is a modern display on how fucked your ideas are.


America and Europe use to be like this before government put in place intelligent regulations.

You do realize that it was the Chinese government in control over there.....even now......and as more freedom develops and the government gets less power and has less ability to protect it's allies, things will be cleaned up....

 

[kaz]

You really need to start paying attention when Democrats talk. Maybe put down the kool-aid first. The wealthy and businesses are blamed for everything in this country by Democrats just like you blame the "brown people"

Oh yeah....and we're DOUBLY pissed off at a wealthy AND "brown" person, right?.........................(WHAT AN IDIOT !!!!)

You keep citing the "brown people" as to why we need more welfare in this country. That is blaming them

 

[nat4900]

they left wants to do it here...but that damned Bill of Rights and Constitution keeps getting in the way....

Yeah, nitwit.....and that is why we buy many US flags made in communist China?

 

[2aguy]

The capitalist will say...I got mine, fuck everyone else

Clearly, you are not a capitalist. Only a true socialist/communist/fascist would even say that.

That way of thinking is exactly what the OP was saying. You see someone in a nice house and assume that they don't give a shit about anyone else. You have a big chip on your shoulder and resent those who believe in capitalism and do well. You really don't understand why some do well or why you don't have to be wealthy to live in a nice house. The average middle class American has a nice house and car and they still work very hard for what they have. Hell, our poor live better than the average people in other countries.

Republicans donate more to charity than Democrats, which shows who cares about the poor. There have been several threads/posts on that here in the forum, so don't ask for links. Look them up.

Dems want to confiscate wealth from others to win votes. Repubs want people to actually elevate themselves and have shown a willingness to help them do that. The left resents it when people seek independence from government. You see, the right wants more people doing well and reducing the need of nanny government because big government is oppressive and ultimately keeps people down.

Idiot, I am believe in social-democracy. What's that? Regulated capitalism and a public sector in areas that need it. Name a single first world country with a high per capita that isn't. Loserterism sucks.

That's not what this means, "The capitalist will say...I got mine, fuck everyone else." Why would I say that just because I earned what I have?

Left wingers constantly justify taking money from people who earned it while you kick us in the teeth and blame us for wanting to keep money we earned

The left says "I got mine and I want yours too...but I will classify you as a greedy person and get the government to do it for me....."

 

[kaz]

The capitalist will say...I got mine, fuck everyone else

Clearly, you are not a capitalist. Only a true socialist/communist/fascist would even say that.

That way of thinking is exactly what the OP was saying. You see someone in a nice house and assume that they don't give a shit about anyone else. You have a big chip on your shoulder and resent those who believe in capitalism and do well. You really don't understand why some do well or why you don't have to be wealthy to live in a nice house. The average middle class American has a nice house and car and they still work very hard for what they have. Hell, our poor live better than the average people in other countries.

Republicans donate more to charity than Democrats, which shows who cares about the poor. There have been several threads/posts on that here in the forum, so don't ask for links. Look them up.

Dems want to confiscate wealth from others to win votes. Repubs want people to actually elevate themselves and have shown a willingness to help them do that. The left resents it when people seek independence from government. You see, the right wants more people doing well and reducing the need of nanny government because big government is oppressive and ultimately keeps people down.

If the left are the ones who support choice, why are they the ones who need to use force to get their way?

What other way do we have clean air, water, food and workers rights? History proves without a shallow of a doubt that unregulated capitalism doesn't do that. Force is a part of life.

WTF? Why would we not have any of those in capitalism? You really do trust government, naively so.

And again, the "unregulated" term is coming from you, not me. And I asked you to define what you mean and you passed

 

[kaz]

they left wants to do it here...but that damned Bill of Rights and Constitution keeps getting in the way....

Yeah, nitwit.....and that is why we buy many US flags made in communist China?

Um...it's cheaper. That helps us build wealth, getting the same thing for less

 

[HUGGY]

The only end game for capitalism is fascism. Destroy the competition then buy the voting process ensuring ownership of all significant markets and wealth.

Fascism is socialism.......what you just described is socialism as the politicians control the means of production...

How can fascism be socialism?
They are on opposite sides of the political spectrum

Only if you're stupid.

"Fascism is often placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum, but some academics call that description inadequate".

Fascism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

My focus on "fascism" is how Mussolini collaborated with the Italian industry to ensure power to both his political party and guaranteed business opportunities with the chosen industry and service companies.

Certainly Mussolini operated his "fascist" party as a brutal force using intimidation and violence. I can see why some may focus on the Fascist tactics that effected the people of Italy and the countries he invaded.

Fascism under Mussolinii wasn't just one thing. It was more a spectrum of aggressive political activities mostly centered around a general policy of coercion. I prefer to look deeper into the mechanics of the way Mussolini created the bonds with certain companies which to me was the heart of the power Mussolini wielded.

 

[2aguy]

The only end game for capitalism is fascism. Destroy the competition then buy the voting process ensuring ownership of all significant markets and wealth.

Fascism is socialism.......what you just described is socialism as the politicians control the means of production...

How can fascism be socialism?
They are on opposite sides of the political spectrum

Only if you're stupid.

"Fascism is often placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum, but some academics call that description inadequate".

Fascism - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

My focus on "fascism" is how Mussolini collaborated with the Italian industry to ensure power to both his political party and guaranteed business opportunities with the chosen industry and service companies.

Certainly Mussolini operated his "fascist" party as a brutal force using intimidation and violence. I can see why some may focus on the Fascist tactics that effected the people of Italy and the countries he invaded.

Fascism under Mussolinii wasn't just one thing. It was more a spectrum of aggressive political activities mostly centered around a general policy of coercion. I prefer to look deeper into the mechanics of the way Mussolini created the bonds with certain companies which to me was the heart of the power Mussolini wielded.

The government controlled the means of production....it was socialism. Try to obfuscate that fact as much as you like in order to indict capitalism falsely....but fascism, nazism and communism are all different styles of socialism........that is all you need to say and it is completely accurate for all three...no 1000 word explanations are needed to hide the socialism in mussolini's italy or hitler's Germany...

 

[nat4900]

Obama has been great for capitalism and Wall Street. They love him!

Correction
Crony Capitalism- because the Government was putting money into Wall Street, that is not true Capitalism.

Wall Street bankers LOVE capitalism when the market is bullish and equally love socialism when the market tanks.....