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    I didn't say it would be better for them to trade places. I said it would be better for them to have a job--and most particularly, a job that requires hard physical labor, especially for the boys.
     
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    You don’t know the students I’m talking about, so pull back on the generalizations.
     
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    Let's compare, then. In how many places have you taught? Me: two states, three districts, thirteen schools and 9 grade levels over 24 years. I have taught very, very affluent children and I have taught children so poor their strep throat was not treated and it went into rheumatic fever.

    You?
     
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    You really want to do this?

    How about 15 schools, 4 countries, from elementary through graduate school and beyond, going into 25th year, serving students from every socio-economic background and from every corner of the globe.

    You don’t have anything new to tell me.
     
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    Okay so about similar experience--you with a few more countries thrown in. We both have long careers and I think that's impressive from both of us in this day in age. To be honest.

    I think I do have something new to tell you, actually. I think teachers always have something new to tell each other, I hope so anyway. And that something new is: while there is no doubt the inner city youth are at many disadvantages, and there is no doubt they would love to trade places in lots of ways (and that's fair enough), most of your wealthy charges in the summer school probably do not have jobs that earn them money. And that puts THEM at a disadvantage in a lot of ways and for a lot of reasons.

    They are in a generation riddled with anxiety and depression because of the way they are parented. The landscaping kids most likely by trauma; the kids in the classes by the ramifications of over-parenting. Misery results either way, does it not?
     
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    You are continuing to make assumptions about students you have never met.
     
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    You don't know that because you don't know them or their situations. It takes some control of the ego to stop yourself from making assumptions.
     
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    I have taught traumatized students, very very poor and disadvantaged students, and I have taught very advantaged students. Both. And so have you. Do I know every situation every child comes from? No, and neither can you, because there are billions. I am simply saying that looking down at urban teens with landscaping jobs and looking at wealthy students in summer school is not as simple as it seems. EVERY demographic comes with challenges and pitfalls. Some more, some less.

    That's all I"m saying. Not saying I know all situations. And btw, how are you so very certain I don't know what it's like to teach poor city kids?
     
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    Maybe that's why I'm not trying to tell you about your students.
     
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    Who's looking down at them? Are you?
     

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