This is what Happens when you give up your guns, America

[Deplorable Yankee]

2014 European election won by UKIP
2015 General Election won by conservatives promising an EU referendum
2016 EU referendum won by Leave
2017 General election won by the conservatives promising to leave the EU, and Labour second also promising to leave.
2018 European elections won by the Brexit party.

FIVE ELECTIONS all for leaving the EU.

And guess what? The UK Establishment says 'Stuff your votes, we want to keep our favors from the EU government. So you will vote over and over till you get the right outcome; REMAIN!

Bu bu but Democracy ....the left loathes democracy more than anyone else

Venezuela banned guns ...its a peaceful utopia .

When seconds count the police are twenty minutes away

Homeowner Shoots And Kills 3 Masked Teens In Possible ‘Stand Your Ground’ Case
September 17, 2019011201

dey dindunuffin
ROCKDALE COUNTY, GA. – The Rockdale County Sheriff’s Office is investigating a shooting scene after responding to a shots fired call early Monday morning.
On Monday, the Rockdale County Sheriff’s Office responded to a shots fired call just after 4:00 AM at a home on White Oak Court in Conyers, Georgia.
Upon arrival, RCSO deputies found three males with gunshot wounds and began administering first aid. Two males were transported to a local area hospital, where they were pronounced deceased from their injuries, while one was pronounced deceased at the shooting scene.
The deceased suspects from the shooting have been identified as juveniles aged 15, 16, and 16, all from Conyers, Georgia.
Homeowner Shoots And Kills 3 Masked Teens In Possible 'Stand Your Ground' Case - Breaking911

 

[zaangalewa]

2014 European election won by UKIP
2015 General Election won by conservatives promising an EU referendum
2016 EU referendum won by Leave
2017 General election won by the conservatives promising to leave the EU, and Labour second also promising to leave.
2018 European elections won by the Brexit party.

FIVE ELECTIONS all for leaving the EU.

And guess what? The UK Establishment says 'Stuff your votes, we want to keep our favors from the EU government. So you will vote over and over till you get the right outcome; REMAIN!

What are you suggesting, those who are pro Brexit start a civil war with those against?

Yes. That's how independence works. We learned this in 1776. Derp.

What do you compare? An union of some colonies with what? With the idea to make out of the german grand duchy England an independent kingdom?

And what do you say to a Calexit (= California leaves the USA and will become and independent country)?

I say good riddance!

And do you take yourselve serios now?

 

[zaangalewa]

... The deceased suspects from the shooting have been identified as juveniles aged 15, 16, and 16, all from Conyers, Georgia. ...

Someone killed three children? Why?

 

[2aguy]

... The deceased suspects from the shooting have been identified as juveniles aged 15, 16, and 16, all from Conyers, Georgia. ...

Someone killed three children? Why?

Those "children" shot at the homeowner....you know?...tried to commit murder....

 

[JoeB131]

... The deceased suspects from the shooting have been identified as juveniles aged 15, 16, and 16, all from Conyers, Georgia. ...

Someone killed three children? Why?

Those "children" shot at the homeowner....you know?...tried to commit murder....

1) Always nice when someone lives out your wank fantasies, isn't it?
2) Wasn't this thread about the Brexit.... you know, how angry mobs with guns aren't forcing UK leaders to commit economic suicide?

 

[August West]

... The deceased suspects from the shooting have been identified as juveniles aged 15, 16, and 16, all from Conyers, Georgia. ...

Someone killed three children? Why?

Those "children" shot at the homeowner....you know?...tried to commit murder....

Why do you help arm "children"?

 

[zaangalewa]

... The deceased suspects from the shooting have been identified as juveniles aged 15, 16, and 16, all from Conyers, Georgia. ...

Someone killed three children? Why?

Those "children" shot at the homeowner ...

And he was not dead? How was he able to shoot back? How did he "win" in a shooting 1 against three? Specially because the reflexes of 15 and 16 years old children are faster than the reflexes of adults. I ask, because such a situation remembers me to a house owner in the USA, who had murdered a German exchange student some years ago by preparing a trap in his garage. The student became curios, entered the garage to take a look - and was murdered from the house owner. An irrecoverable loss for Germany.

 

[2aguy]

... The deceased suspects from the shooting have been identified as juveniles aged 15, 16, and 16, all from Conyers, Georgia. ...

Someone killed three children? Why?

Those "children" shot at the homeowner ...

And he was not dead? How was he able to shoot back? How did he "win" in a shooting 1 against three? Specially because the reflexes of 15 and 16 years old children are faster than the reflexes of adults. I ask, because such a situation remembers me to a house owner in the USA, who had murdered a German exchange student some years ago by preparing a trap in his garage. The student became curios, entered the garage to take a look - and was murdered from the house owner. An irrecoverable loss for Germany.

If you are serious in your questions I would recommend that you begin studying physical violence.......there are many things that go into violent conflict between people...for example...then throw in adrenaline and the effects on the body.....and you have the miss.....and if the rushed shot, it makes missing even more likely...

They teenager is likely inexperienced in shooting a gun, the recoil, needs to be controlled or you will miss, even from as short a distance as arms length...there are lots of stories about just this sort of thing happening. then throw in adrenaline and the effects on the body.....and you have the miss.....and if the rushed shot, it makes missing even more likely...if it is a gun the teenager had never used before, even more reason for the miss

The adult.... has more living to have learned to deal with stressful situations, may have more experience shooting his weapon... and he had more reason to focus since his life was on the line....

If he was in the guys garage without permission...he wasn't just "taking a look."

 

[2aguy]

... The deceased suspects from the shooting have been identified as juveniles aged 15, 16, and 16, all from Conyers, Georgia. ...

Someone killed three children? Why?

Those "children" shot at the homeowner....you know?...tried to commit murder....

Why do you help arm "children"?

Me? Oh.....you started drinking early today....

 

[rightwinger]

2014 European election won by UKIP
2015 General Election won by conservatives promising an EU referendum
2016 EU referendum won by Leave
2017 General election won by the conservatives promising to leave the EU, and Labour second also promising to leave.
2018 European elections won by the Brexit party.

FIVE ELECTIONS all for leaving the EU.

And guess what? The UK Establishment says 'Stuff your votes, we want to keep our favors from the EU government. So you will vote over and over till you get the right outcome; REMAIN!

What does that have to do with guns?

 

[rightwinger]

America, this is what happens when you give up your guns

 

[2aguy]

America, this is what happens when you give up your guns

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Moron, those homicide rates were low before they gave up their guns.......normal people with guns didn't drive their homicide rates....

Meanwhile..in the U.S.....

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[SAYIT]

You need to get your facts straight. The Brexit vote won by 4% majority and in a democracy that is a clear preference.

Part of the problem was how the EU Mandarins decided to hoodwink everyone with these bureaucratic 'agreements' so they could duck having actual public votes on the matter.

The people of the UK have never voted to give up their independence to join an Imperial EU. NEVER.

Cameron campaigned on giving the Brits a vote on the matter, and after years of delaying on delivering on that promise he finally caved in and gave them the vote; and LOST.

That should have been the end of the story, but the Brit elites know better for everybody, and if they want to sell UK independence for some gruel then everybody had better shut up and swallow it.

Yes, a War for Independence, bubba.
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The EU over rules Brit courts all the time, and no one ever voted to give them that power. That is not destroying the UK it is saving it from German bankers.

Lol, you are such a fearful little child.

Here's the problem. The UK really isn't in a position to get rid of the EU. It will eliminate the market for a lot of British products and make products they need from Europe too expensive to afford.

Brexit is kind of like Trump... people were voting their anger without thinking through the implications of a really bad idea.

But now they can't just say, "Sorry, just kidding", they just hope the EU will let them save face.

LOL. That is what happens when the opposition nominates one who considers her countrymen to be "a basket of deplorables."

 

[rightwinger]

America, this is what happens when you give up your guns

View attachment 279824

Moron, those homicide rates were low before they gave up their guns.......normal people with guns didn't drive their homicide rates....

Meanwhile..in the U.S.....

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Murder rates and violent crime have gone down in the last 30 years regardless of gun laws. Has to do with the end of the crack wars.

NYC has the strictest gun laws in the country
They work

NYC has the lowest murder rate among major cities

 

[zaangalewa]

... Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...

What a mad country.

 

[rightwinger]

What happens when you give up your guns

 

[zaangalewa]

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Murder rates and violent crime have gone down in the last 30 years regardless of gun laws. Has to do with the end of the crack wars.

NYC has the strictest gun laws in the country
They work

NYC has the lowest murder rate among major cities

You are right. Someone has to watch the context in this case, because the context is the 0-line. Here an example for Europe (England, Germany and Switzerland, Italy, Netherlands and Belgium, Scandinavia) in the last few hundred years.

England and Germany have for example today an index of 1.2 - the USA an index of 5.4 - for the crime murder. So in the USA exist per person a 450% higher murder rate. Italy 0,7 => USA 770%. Netherlands 0.6 (USA 900%), Scandinavia (Sweden) ~ 1.1 (USA 490%). So murder rate is 4.5 to 9 times lower in comparable civilisations.

 

[Rustic]

You need to get your facts straight. The Brexit vote won by 4% majority and in a democracy that is a clear preference.

Part of the problem was how the EU Mandarins decided to hoodwink everyone with these bureaucratic 'agreements' so they could duck having actual public votes on the matter.

The people of the UK have never voted to give up their independence to join an Imperial EU. NEVER.

Cameron campaigned on giving the Brits a vote on the matter, and after years of delaying on delivering on that promise he finally caved in and gave them the vote; and LOST.

That should have been the end of the story, but the Brit elites know better for everybody, and if they want to sell UK independence for some gruel then everybody had better shut up and swallow it.

Yes, a War for Independence, bubba.
​

The EU over rules Brit courts all the time, and no one ever voted to give them that power. That is not destroying the UK it is saving it from German bankers.

Lol, you are such a fearful little child.

Here's the problem. The UK really isn't in a position to get rid of the EU. It will eliminate the market for a lot of British products and make products they need from Europe too expensive to afford.

Brexit is kind of like Trump... people were voting their anger without thinking through the implications of a really bad idea.

But now they can't just say, "Sorry, just kidding", they just hope the EU will let them save face.

Lol
There’s nothing more corrupt in Europe than the EU you stupid ass motherfucker

Your argument "... you stupid ass motherfucker ... " shows in my eyes by the way your lack of will to survive. In lots of cultures you would be dead, after you had said such a sentence to someone else. I ask myselve what a titanic frustration might be behind such an "argument".

To keep the EU alive is by the way a lot of hard work since it exists. The reason to keep the EU alive: It is a long term peace project. The best peace project Europe ever had.

Na, not really

It’s living on borrowed time, and is in debt up to its eyeballs...

Lol

 

[Rustic]

What happens when you give up your guns

Lol
Shut the fuck up you spineless piece of shit

 

[Rustic]