This is what Happens when you give up your guns, America

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    2014 European election won by UKIP
    2015 General Election won by conservatives promising an EU referendum
    2016 EU referendum won by Leave
    2017 General election won by the conservatives promising to leave the EU, and Labour second also promising to leave.
    2018 European elections won by the Brexit party.

    FIVE ELECTIONS all for leaving the EU.

    And guess what? The UK Establishment says 'Stuff your votes, we want to keep our favors from the EU government. So you will vote over and over till you get the right outcome; REMAIN!
     
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    But they've disarmed their general police as well... Imagine what the outcome of THAT would be in America...

    It's just sheer "virtue signaling" and feel good stuff.. Like allowing the home invader to sue YOU for injuring himself on a wire enforced window when he breaks into your yard shed... Laws in England could be the script for about 12 episodes of "Stranger Things" on Netflix....
     
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    What are you suggesting, those who are pro Brexit start a civil war with those against?
     
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    Yes, I definitely am.

    It is called a war for independence.
     
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    :lmao:
     
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    What is funny about wars for independence?

    The EU was not voted in by the public, it was snuck in the back door with bureaucratic agreements in large part that didn't even require parliamentary votes.

    Now the thought of a bunch of emasculated effeminate Europeans actually fighting for independence is kind of funny I will admit, but some of the Brits still have the brass to do it and can.
     
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    I wonder what the results would have been if "no deal" Brexit was on the ballot.
    Brexit is still happening. The British just had to study up on the consequences after the vote, they got terrified about it, and tried to find a way to stay in the EU but be able to claim they left. "No deal" was not on the ballot. Now it's the only option. It's pretty funny.
     
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    Brexit is frozen in political tug of war that BoJo could solve very easily but he wont because he is play fighting.

    Under Westminster rules, and that new law the Brits passed to limit the dissolution of Parliament, a 'no confidence' vote can end the current parliament and warrant new elections.

    Under these same rules, a defeat on a major issue the majority party campaigned on is also understood to be the same as a no confidence vote.

    All Bojo has to do is call for a Brexit vote, lose it, then he can go to the Queen and ask for a dissolution of Parliament under current UK Parliamentary procedures.

    So why hasn't he?

    A new election would be the most valid way, IMO, of doing a referendum on the break from the EU.
     
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    What a nonsense. That's called "eccentric". Someone took the civil rights of the Brits, who had lived more than 15 years outside of GB and so this citizens had no right to vote in the Brexit referendum. Including their votes the referendum was only decided from 100,000 votes for the "Brexit". The result was nearly 50:50. 50:50 means "I do not know what's the best to do". And that's exactly what had happened in the last 3 1/2 years (instead of 2 years time allowance for an exit process of an European nation out of the EU). 17.4 millions voted for the Brexit - indeed that's only 26.5% of all Brits, who live on the own Island and North Ireland.

    I don't have any idea why the USA tries to destroy the western world and I don't have any idea why England tries to destroy Great Britain. But this all has nothing to do with a "war for independence". Laughable. No one supresses the USA - no one supresses England - except perhaps the own superrich idiots and their spitlickers.

    And for the weapon fetishism of the USA - as well outside and inside of your country - I have only one word: "mad". Ah sorry - two words: "totally mad". I'm always astonished, when someone travels to the USA on his own free will. Crazy people, who do so.

     
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    You need to get your facts straight. The Brexit vote won by 4% majority and in a democracy that is a clear preference.

    Part of the problem was how the EU Mandarins decided to hoodwink everyone with these bureaucratic 'agreements' so they could duck having actual public votes on the matter.

    The people of the UK have never voted to give up their independence to join an Imperial EU. NEVER.

    Cameron campaigned on giving the Brits a vote on the matter, and after years of delaying on delivering on that promise he finally caved in and gave them the vote; and LOST.

    That should have been the end of the story, but the Brit elites know better for everybody, and if they want to sell UK independence for some gruel then everybody had better shut up and swallow it.

    Yes, a War for Independence, bubba.

    The EU over rules Brit courts all the time, and no one ever voted to give them that power. That is not destroying the UK it is saving it from German bankers.


    Lol, you are such a fearful little child.
     
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