This is what all Ron Paul supporters need to understand:

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    They control the opposition by leading it
    I completely agree, and let me explain to Ron Paul supporters why I think he was allowed to become a mainstream candidate: MSM gains credebility, recognition, viewers, legitimacy by telling the truth to suck us in; they NEED candidates who speak the truth, so they choose an old soft man, who's been in government forever, and allow him on there, so what if the wave of his popularity catches to the point that they can not put out the flame and he became president? - all his ideas could still be blocked by congress/senate, and if absolutely necessary, he would perhaps die of a heart attack at his age - better him on there, then all his supporter types uniting with a movement which is not controlled by them by some nutcase like me, who is an absolute stubborn "fundamentalist" with an unchangeable mind, seeking not just a ride to the white house but a complete government take over.
     
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    This is probably part of it but what they are really trying to do is subvert the rising swell of libertarian minded voters to their own ends. They are speaking mainly to the older generation since the younger generations don't really watch the MSM anymore. They trot him out so they can say "See look how crazy he is!"

    On other fronts they shut attempt to shut down the voice of his supporters by stealing delegates and disenfranchising voters at any cost. They also try appeal to the conservative in us and rally us against the progressive regime in power. Now you will see candidates espousing views similiar to Ron Paul on a local level to get people to believe that they are of the same mind. Using his ideas to propel them into office. This is yet another attempt to water down the message because once in office, most of them won't follow through. I have already seen it here in my local politics. They have a problem though and that problem isn't Ron Paul. It's the internet. The internet is becoming our collective memory and our fingertip historian. All we need to do is go back to find what a candidate said and then show what he did and his credibility is either verified or it's shot. In the past it was much easier to gloss campaign promises over since the archives of speeches and essays were all controlled by the print and television media. The internet has become the bane of tyrrany and we have to keep it free at all costs. If we lose internet freedom then we lose the world.
     
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    I'm sick of voting "lesser of two evils" or mindlessly cheering for one side or the other like it's a damn football game or something.

    If a candidate doesn't speak of Constitutional Issues then they won't get my support.
     
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    Good points. The MSM also embraces him because he often criticizes his own Republican Party. Most the MSM Outlets lean Left and promote the Democratic Party. They try and exploit anyone who criticizes the Republican Party. John McCain was once their media darling too. And why was that? Well, he often criticized his own Republican Party. He was their "Maverick."

    They sure did turn on him though, once he ran against their Dear Leader huh? I am glad Ron Paul is getting some airtime, but remember much of it is him being exploited by the Liberal/Democrat-dominated MSM. Make no mistake about it, the Socialists/Progressives at CNN,NPR, and NBC do not share his beliefs. They're just using him as weapon against the Republican Party. Put him up against their Dear Leader, and i'm sure he would immediately become their evil Boogeyman. John McCain sure found that out. But hey, i'll take what i can get i guess. Good to see getting some media coverage.
     
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    Any Libertarians out there? I have one simple question. (for now)

    Let us assume you have converted the US to a Libertarian style government, national, state and local.

    Chicago roads have become too congested and are strangling business. You wish to build a brand new super highway bypassing Chicago to relieve this congestion.

    Libertarian principles being what they are, how could you accomplish this?
     
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    Chicago roads are not what's strangling Chicago Business. It's the Democrats and their catastrophic Third World Hell-Hole they created. Chicago roads are the last thing Chicago Businesses are worried about.
     
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    Obama/Romney? Not a real choice. Just two Big Government Globalist Harvard boys in the end. As usual, the joke's on us.


     
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    I like Ron Paul, always have. He doesn't bullshit and pander, and that's incredibly refreshing.

    If DC was filled with people like that, left and right, the country would be in much better shape.
     
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    Right On!
     
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    Libertarians are not against roads. I drive on them every day. I am a minarchist not an anarchist. I believe that we should have the smallest government possible but we need infrastructure for commerce and to facilitate the pursuit of liberty and happiness. I see no issue with the government at local or state level imposing a tax to build roads if they are needed.
     

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