"This great American system, these roads and bridges- you didn't do that,somebody..."

Yup.

Now some right wing LIBERTARIAN radicals call that socialism and object to public roads.

I think they're nuts but at least I admire their consistency.

It was the taxpayer, private business owner that built the bridges and interstates not govt.

Who planned the roads? Who obtained the right of way? Who hired the contractors? Who established the specifications?

The entire infrastructure was planned and instituted by government, usually, although not always with voter approval.

All you wingnuts are simply railing against taxes. Take the taxes away and you have no infrastructure. no law, no schools, police, fire, courts or military.

All you would have are a bunch of braying jackasses wondering why the gobmint didn't do anything.
No. We are not railing against taxes as it relates to this issue. We are trying to figure out who Obama credits with building the infrastructure, and why he specifically excluded business owners from the ranks of the " someone else's" that "did that".
 
Yup.

Now some right wing LIBERTARIAN radicals call that socialism and object to public roads.

I think they're nuts but at least I admire their consistency.

That's what they mean by "We want to take this country back".

Yeah, back to the 19th century, before there were highways and bridges and other such communistical things.
 
Yup.

Now some right wing LIBERTARIAN radicals call that socialism and object to public roads.

I think they're nuts but at least I admire their consistency.

That's what they mean by "We want to take this country back".

Yeah, back to the 19th century, before there were highways and bridges and other such communistical things.

And of course you can back up this absurd claim with a direct quote from a conservative stating that he "wants to go back to the 19th century, before there were highways and bridges"...

We'll wait.
 
Not sure what the OP refers to but here is the exact quote, "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen"

Read more: Obama calls 'you didn't build that' furor 'bogus,' as Romney releases new ad | Fox News

Obviously Franco sees nothing wrong with correcting the Prez and THEN debating something else entirely.... Not out of line for him.. His ship has so many torpedos in it that it's been sunk long ago.. That Avi picture was taken the day he signed on to USMB.

:eusa_clap:
 
Yup.

Now some right wing LIBERTARIAN radicals call that socialism and object to public roads.

I think they're nuts but at least I admire their consistency.

It was the taxpayer, private business owner that built the bridges and interstates not govt.

Who planned the roads? Who obtained the right of way? Who hired the contractors? Who established the specifications?

The entire infrastructure was planned and instituted by government, usually, although not always with voter approval.

All you wingnuts are simply railing against taxes. Take the taxes away and you have no infrastructure. no law, no schools, police, fire, courts or military.

All you would have are a bunch of braying jackasses wondering why the gobmint didn't do anything.

Did the business owners and factory owners not also pay taxes? Did the trucks they use not buy fuel that included federal/state taxes? Do their employees not pay taxes?

I'm not sure how you can say "they didn't build it" when everyone paid for it, including business owners. (not to mention the owners are probably rich and paid a ton more taxes than your average income level)

Dont forget the people who did do the physical building of it also got PAID to do so, it wasn't done for free.
 
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The state also butchered native Americans and imposed slavery, then later segregation. I wouldn't go loving it yet. :eusa_eh:

how were the native peoples down your way treated when the White Devil showed up?......just askin.....
Better off than the Australian aboriginals, NZ was the last to be colonized basically; though the land wars occurred during the British administration based in NSW, Australia (which was controlled from London); New Zealand didn't gain independence till the 1900s, but the conflict was over by then. New Zealand wasn't fully independent till 1947 though, same with Australia. I know plenty of Maori though, tribes fight each other for money from the government; most people are sick of it here and want their money rather than to pay a perpetual tax to Maori.
 
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You are duped AGAIN...D'OH!

Obama's Controversial Remark - Reason Magazine - Reason Articles
m.reason.com/.../95ba850cea27b064138a7c38cc8cbb66&t=2o6mm2l778t380ksb8j5mm1kp5 - Cached
2 days ago ... By investing in education, training, roads and bridges, research and technology.”
... There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create
this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed ...
scott brown | Tumblr
scott brown | Tumblr - Cached
... the audio is edited to remove the chunk of the speech in which Obama talks
about our 'great American system' and 'roads and bridges,' misleading listeners ...
 
Yup.

Now some right wing LIBERTARIAN radicals call that socialism and object to public roads.

I think they're nuts but at least I admire their consistency.

There were already "roads" before government decided to pave them...

Who the fuck do you think did most of the ground work for these "roads?" oh yeah just regular people who needed a pathway...

Oh go read some history, lad.

Your stunning ignorance of history is embarrassing to witness.
 
You are duped AGAIN...D'OH!

Obama's Controversial Remark - Reason Magazine - Reason Articles
m.reason.com/.../95ba850cea27b064138a7c38cc8cbb66&t=2o6mm2l778t380ksb8j5mm1kp5 - Cached
2 days ago ... By investing in education, training, roads and bridges, research and technology.”
... There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create
this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed ...
scott brown | Tumblr
scott brown | Tumblr - Cached
... the audio is edited to remove the chunk of the speech in which Obama talks
about our 'great American system' and 'roads and bridges,' misleading listeners ...

You are duped AGAIN...D'OH!

yes you were Frankie......apparently for quite some time....
 
You are duped AGAIN...D'OH!

Obama's Controversial Remark - Reason Magazine - Reason Articles
m.reason.com/.../95ba850cea27b064138a7c38cc8cbb66&t=2o6mm2l778t380ksb8j5mm1kp5 - Cached
2 days ago ... By investing in education, training, roads and bridges, research and technology.”
... There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create
this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed ...
scott brown | Tumblr
scott brown | Tumblr - Cached
... the audio is edited to remove the chunk of the speech in which Obama talks
about our 'great American system' and 'roads and bridges,' misleading listeners ...

You are duped AGAIN...D'OH!

yes you were Frankie......apparently for quite some time....

Cripes Franco -- the speech is up on the WH website. Go pull it you moron..
Obviously --- You're the only confused and duped one here...

Stop reading ThinkProgress and your mental function MIGHT recover...
 
You are duped AGAIN...D'OH!

Obama's Controversial Remark - Reason Magazine - Reason Articles
m.reason.com/.../95ba850cea27b064138a7c38cc8cbb66&t=2o6mm2l778t380ksb8j5mm1kp5 - Cached
2 days ago ... By investing in education, training, roads and bridges, research and technology.”
... There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create
this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed ...
scott brown | Tumblr
scott brown | Tumblr - Cached
... the audio is edited to remove the chunk of the speech in which Obama talks
about our 'great American system' and 'roads and bridges,' misleading listeners ...

You are duped AGAIN...D'OH!

yes you were Frankie......apparently for quite some time....

Cripes Franco -- the speech is up on the WH website. Go pull it you moron..
Obviously --- You're the only confused and duped one here...

Stop reading ThinkProgress and your mental function MIGHT recover...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=192oEC5TX_Q]Obama: If you've been successful you didn't get there on your own - YouTube[/ame]


^ uncut speech
 
Not sure what the OP refers to but here is the exact quote, "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen"

Read more: Obama calls 'you didn't build that' furor 'bogus,' as Romney releases new ad | Fox News


Hey Frankie. Did you like it when the Dems pulled Mitts comment about firing people out of context and used it against him? Did you like that? Please post the Obama sentence spoken just before the part you quoted. You know, the comment that puts the later comment in perspective and context.

Repubs doing the same thing to Obama.

It was bull shit for Mitt and it is bull shit for Obama.

Why I bet I could even take some of your comments out of context and make you look.......... differrent than you claim to be. Hell maybe I have already done that.
Like right now, talking like you might be reasonable. LMAO.

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen,"

Read more: Obama calls 'you didn't build that' furor 'bogus,' as Romney releases new ad | Fox News

Why do you Democrats need an Obama Context Filter? Here's EXACTLY what Obama actually said!!

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen,"

Why do you feel that Romney needs to lie about the Presidents message?

The

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.
 
Hey Frankie. Did you like it when the Dems pulled Mitts comment about firing people out of context and used it against him? Did you like that? Please post the Obama sentence spoken just before the part you quoted. You know, the comment that puts the later comment in perspective and context.

Repubs doing the same thing to Obama.

It was bull shit for Mitt and it is bull shit for Obama.

Why I bet I could even take some of your comments out of context and make you look.......... differrent than you claim to be. Hell maybe I have already done that.
Like right now, talking like you might be reasonable. LMAO.

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen,"

Read more: Obama calls 'you didn't build that' furor 'bogus,' as Romney releases new ad | Fox News

Why do you Democrats need an Obama Context Filter? Here's EXACTLY what Obama actually said!!

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen,"

Why do you feel that Romney needs to lie about the Presidents message?

The

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.

If that was his point, and he was not denigrating the efforts and successes of business owners, why did he specifically exclude them from the group of individuals that built infrastructure you OWS parasites believe he was referring to with an improper demonstrative? If, when he said "you did not build that. Somebody else built that", what he really was referring to is infrastructure, who is he crediting wit building that infrastructure? And why does he exclude business from being part of that group of contributors? If he is supportive of small business as He and the OWS parasites believe, and was really talking about the things we do together, why did he not include the contributions of those same small businesses? Weird.
 
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Comical................

These leftwing twits must awake in a sweat at night drooling and muttering over roads and bridges........ Before falling out again into an enviously vivid nightmare about the " wealthy".....

Poor Darlings
 
Hey Frankie. Did you like it when the Dems pulled Mitts comment about firing people out of context and used it against him? Did you like that? Please post the Obama sentence spoken just before the part you quoted. You know, the comment that puts the later comment in perspective and context.

Repubs doing the same thing to Obama.

It was bull shit for Mitt and it is bull shit for Obama.

Why I bet I could even take some of your comments out of context and make you look.......... differrent than you claim to be. Hell maybe I have already done that.
Like right now, talking like you might be reasonable. LMAO.

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen,"

Read more: Obama calls 'you didn't build that' furor 'bogus,' as Romney releases new ad | Fox News

Why do you Democrats need an Obama Context Filter? Here's EXACTLY what Obama actually said!!

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen,"

Why do you feel that Romney needs to lie about the Presidents message?

The

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.

You think I"M lying about the Prez confirming his Collectivist outlook on work and sweat contributions. So I'll pass -- if you think Romney is doing the same. First -- we'd have to hear the same speech and recognize the obvious memes of anti-free-market collective thought..

To me --- that little flight of honesty sounded EXACTLY like Noam Chomsky..

Or a more eloquent Michael Moore.. :D

.....Than a Prez that many of your Leftist buds are trying to sell as a "Centrist".
 
"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen,"

Read more: Obama calls 'you didn't build that' furor 'bogus,' as Romney releases new ad | Fox News

Why do you Democrats need an Obama Context Filter? Here's EXACTLY what Obama actually said!!

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen,"

Why do you feel that Romney needs to lie about the Presidents message?
"
The

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.

If that was his point, and he was not denigrating the efforts and successes of business owners, why did he specifically exclude them from the group of individuals that built infrastructure you OWS parasites believe he was referring to with an improper demonstrative? If, when he said "you did not build that. Somebody else built that", what he really was referring to is infrastructure, who is he crediting wit building that infrastructure? And why does he exclude business from being part of that group of contributors?

"We" is inclusive of everyone, businesses and individuals. Why do you think he excluded anyone?
 
"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen,"

Read more: Obama calls 'you didn't build that' furor 'bogus,' as Romney releases new ad | Fox News

Why do you Democrats need an Obama Context Filter? Here's EXACTLY what Obama actually said!!

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen,"

Why do you feel that Romney needs to lie about the Presidents message?

The

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.

You think I"M lying about the Prez confirming his Collectivist outlook on work and sweat contributions. So I'll pass -- if you think Romney is doing the same. First -- we'd have to hear the same speech and recognize the obvious memes of anti-free-market collective thought..

To me --- that little flight of honesty sounded EXACTLY like Noam Chomsky..

Or a more eloquent Michael Moore.. :D

.....Than a Prez that many of your Leftist buds are trying to sell as a "Centrist".

So then how does "we succeed because of our individual initiative" fit into the collective outlook again?
 
Hey Frankie. Did you like it when the Dems pulled Mitts comment about firing people out of context and used it against him? Did you like that? Please post the Obama sentence spoken just before the part you quoted. You know, the comment that puts the later comment in perspective and context.

Repubs doing the same thing to Obama.

It was bull shit for Mitt and it is bull shit for Obama.

Why I bet I could even take some of your comments out of context and make you look.......... differrent than you claim to be. Hell maybe I have already done that.
Like right now, talking like you might be reasonable. LMAO.

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen,"

Read more: Obama calls 'you didn't build that' furor 'bogus,' as Romney releases new ad | Fox News

Why do you Democrats need an Obama Context Filter? Here's EXACTLY what Obama actually said!!

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen,"

Why do you feel that Romney needs to lie about the Presidents message?

The

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.

But Romeny didn't lie, here is the uncut speech

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=192oEC5TX_Q]Obama: If you've been successful you didn't get there on your own - YouTube[/ame]
 

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