Things you missed when deciphering the Fatima

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    "IF" you are so insistent in believing the Fatima prophecies or event then it becomes problematic if keeping it consistant to Biblical interpretations.
    In reality the Fatima was most likely simply a typical ploy to seek out new blood money (tithes) as the U.S. and Europe was seeing church support diminishing they thought to hit up Russia as a new huge source of financial growth and missionizing.

    But if you insist the spirit was in action then you have a bigger problem with the message then you are willing to admit.

    The Fatima intercessor was Michael, not Jesus.
    The Lady was never by name, not Mary.

    THE fOLLOWING REQUIRES knowing that in certain context Night is a person not a time of day.
    Daniels vision of Night & the NIGHT VISIONS, Solomons Night Dew, Dead Sea Scrolls many verses of a person named Night, Isaiah's Night Season all refer to Evening Star archangel Michael.
    Source besides the scrolls is in the fact the legend of YeruShalem becoming City of Shalom comes when the NIGHT(Shalem-Evening Star)
    overturns the day (Baal& Morning Star his son). Similarly The Night is coded in the Koran with the same legend, peace comes when Night comes to YeruShalem {the city in his name}.

    ALSO REQUIRES KNOWLEDGE OF THE BATTLE OF LIGHT AND DARKNESS IN BIBLICAL EXPRESSION the scrolls show us that light meant Knowledge and truth and darkness meant lies and ignorance.

    NOW YOU CAN GO BACK AND REREAD The Fatima warnING:
    "When you see a Night (the Judgement refiners fire Evening Star) illuminated by an unknown light(Light meant Knowledge and truth.), know this is the great sign from God that the chastisement (Judgement) of the world for its many transgressions is at hand through war.
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    it matches scripture which said:
    "When NIGHT (the Evening Star=archangel Michael) is Given Light to witness to everyone, God's Glory".
    Even the church itself admits the Judge (refiners fire-sword out the mouth)is Michael.

    Michael is the one who brings men's souls to judgment ("signifer S. Michael repraesentet eas in lucam sanctam", Offert. Miss Defunct. "Constituit eum principem super animas suscipiendas", Antiph. off. Cf. "Hermas", Pastor, I, 3, Simil. VIII, 3).

    Dan 12:1-4 Michael delivers everyone written in the book of life (judge)

    IIQ13 "Heavenly Prince Melchizedek Scroll" about Michael conducting the atonement day Judgment.

    Account of the Genesis which Enotes composed, to set against the Genesis of Moses, when it says [2] that the Devil (diabolos) was cast out of heaven(future Perfected earth) because of the evil (kakia) which he had brought forth and that Michael was set (kathistanai) in his place, that he might be associated with (synistanai)
    the just Judge(krites), and might be the ambassador (presbeuein) for all creation; for he is good (agathos).
    (meaning the Devil was the rule of this world and Michael was sent in his Place to cast out the evil he caused.)

    If the devil and his works is judged then judgement is by works which is what the iconographs show where Michael
    holds the judgment scales and Satan is holding down the scale trying to prevent measurment of works (through faith only teachings).

    1 Enoch 20:5
    Michael, one of the holy angels, who, presiding over human virtue, commands the nations. (mediator/Judge)

    EXODUS 23:20 "Behold, I send an Angel before you to keep you in the way and to bring you into the place which I have prepared. 21 Beware of Him and obey His voice; do not provoke Him, for
    **He will not pardon your transgressions**; for My name is in Him.

    1 Enoch 53:6
    Michael and Gabriel, Raphael and Phanuel (Jeremiel)(14) shall be strengthened in that day, and shall then cast them into a furnace of blazing fire, that the Lord of spirits may be avenged of them for their crimes; because they became ministers of Satan, and seduced those who dwell upon earth.

    Blessings scroll (1QSb=1Q28b)
    V:20 "blessings of the Prince of the Congregation (Michael)
    Renew him the covenant of the community so he might establish the kingdom of his people for ever, that he might judge the poor with righteousness & dispense Justice with equity to the oppressed.

    4Q285 5&10 Judgment of the Kittim (Romans)

    Dead Sea Scrolls:
    llQMelch ll,9,13 ,
    4Q246 ,
    1QS x12-18
     
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    The Fatima also says this Night Judges the Church.
     
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    Michael " Delivers" which is Hashev in Hebrew... The book of life is the Torah or Jewish scriptures but it is interesting that the word used is " deLIVErs .. Meaning these are people who are Live or follow the book of Life not deDeaders the ones who follow the book of the dead and the King of the dead Jesus.... So simple and yet so straightforward for those with a mind to think and not bogged down in DeNILE....
     
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    Whaaaaat? Both of you
     
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    The Hebrew Bible is divided into three parts, Torah (Pentateuch), Prophets, and Writings. This division is not strictly one of content; it derives from the canonization process in that the three parts were closed at separate times.

    Torah
    “The Torah of Moses” was already the name for the first part in the various postexilic books. We will not attempt here to deal with the complex questions regarding the history and authorship of the Torah. Suffice it to say that a unified, canonized Torah was available to Ezra for the public reading which took place in approximately 444 B.C.E. Further, the various legal interpretations (midrashim) found in the books of Ezra and Nehemiah are themselves a result of the issues raised by a Torah in which there are apparent contradictions and repetitions. It can therefore be stated unquestionably that the canonization of the Torah was completed by the time of Ezra and Nehemiah.

    The Prophets
    Later rabbinic tradition asserts that prophecy ceased with the conquest of Alexander the Great in 332 B.C. E. In effect, this meant that books composed thereafter were not to be included in the prophetic canon, the second of the Hebrew Bible’s three parts. This view can be substantiated by the absence of later debate about the canonicity of the prophets, the lack of Greek words in the prophetic books, and the inclusion of Daniel and Chronicles in the Writings rather than in the Prophets.It must be the case, therefore, that the Prophets were canonized late in the Persian period, probably by the start of the fourth century

    The Writings
    The Writings are a diverse collection. Some of the books included in this corpus are earlier than the canonization of the Prophets and were placed in the Writings because of their literary form or because they were regarded as having a lesser degree of divine inspiration. Other books appear in this collection because they were authored after the canon of the Prophets was closed. As already mentioned, this was the case with Daniel and Chronicles. Song of Songs and Ecclesiastes are regarded by some scholars as of Hellenistic origin, but rabbinic tradition attributes them to Solomon. Daniel is widely regarded by modern scholars as having been written in the Hellenistic period. There is no evidence at all for the oft‑repeated view that the Scriptures were formally canonized at Yavneh.

    While virtually all the Writings were regarded as canonical by the time of the destruction of the Temple in 70 C.E., arguments continued regarding the status of Proverbs, Song of Songs, Ecclesiastes, and Esther, and these disputes are attested in rabbinic literature. Second Temple literature indicates that a collection of Writings existed as early as the second century B.C.E. but was not regarded as formally closed.

    Canonization and Intergroup Relations
    The unfolding of the history of Judaism, and indeed of Christianity and Islam as well, takes place against the background of the interpretation of a revealed, authoritative body of literature. For Judaism this corpus is the text of the Hebrew Bible. The notion of a canon provides a fixed consensus on the contents of this body of sacred literature and, therefore, helps to give unity to the diverse interpretations proposed by the varieties of Judaism encountered throughout history.

    It was the decision of the Christians to reopen the canon for a moment, and to place the New Testament within it, that created one of the basic disagreements separating Judaism from Christianity. The Hebrew biblical canon drew the lines within which Judaism was to develop and provided grist for the mill of a long and varied history of exegesis. The concept of a canon, with the attendant notions of authority and sanctity, endowed the Hebrew Scriptures with their enduring place in the history of Judaism.

    Creating the Canon
     
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    quote:"Suffice it to say that a unified, canonized Torah was available to Ezra for the public reading which took place in approximately 444 B.C.E. Further, the various legal interpretations (midrashim ) found in the books of Ezra"...

    While Jacob was battling for his life, the sense of his guilt pressed upon his soul; his sins rose up before him, to shut him out from God. But in his terrible extremity he remembered God's promises, and his whole heart went out in entreaty for His mercy.
    It was "the Angel of the covenant," who had revealed Himself to Jacob. Now using this standard that an angel is Battling with Jacob is a word refering to changing Jacob's heart through use of his guilt then *in Ezra 1* and Isaiah 44-45 the Lord and HaSheva i.e. redeemer who changes Cyrus the Prince and King of Persia heart to rebuild the temple and gather the dispersed Jews back to their land then is Michael since the name given by Daniel in
    Dan 10 shows it was Michael battling this Persian King.
    The stone that Jacob rested on was the one he had the dream of the ladder to heaven. The stone of the covenant he anointed represents the anointing of the true corner stone and is supposed to be the key to secreting Moshiach which is why those old English-Celtic tales always told of a knight pulling the sword from the stone- (the proof of the rightful kings lineage=coming back to his inheritance)
    This tale represented the pulling out the Truth or Word from the stone (foundation of all things).
    Note: The Foundation Stone is the name of the rock at the heart of the Dome of the Rock in YeruShalem.
    In other words secreting HOW Things Are. Daniel's Revelation of the "Stone" (Cornerstone & one of destiny) who strikes the (Beast's) Kingdoms & turns them to dust, is basically the mirror story of Michael removing the controlling power of the beast, but also as the scrolls says revealing the secret wisdom of the name of God(4Q300I ii4=4Q299 2 i I4)
    which reveals the wisdom of the Essence in that name and which shares his name. ("The Name"[HaShem]of God will be in his name-EXODUS 23:20-21 & Hebrew Version of Micah 4:5).
    Hence truth out of the foundation stone revealing himself King (returning to inheritence) at the place that holds his name and legend.
    Even Nostradamus secreted the prophets name, probably because he learned Torah from his Grandfather and the Hidden Torah of Moses might have been orally passed to him as well.
     
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    The Books were closed.

    When was the Messiah prophesied and how long has it been since then that prophecy has gone unfulfilled?
     
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    Since all that shit was made up?
     
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    You are warned over and over not to follow the idol Baal scam nor his son the
    morning star. The first FALLEN messiah is the imposter AKA son of perdition (to fall to the pit), Jesus indeed fulfilled the warning of Lucifer in Ezekiel coming as the
    one who fell to the pit (Act2:23, 1 Peter 3:19, Apostles Creed) the image of a man created by Rome who fell by the hands of Rome(the seas) called the
    anointed (Christ) Cherub(guardian=Nazarene in Hebrew) deemed perfect (sinless)
    -Ezekiel 28:14-15).
     

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