Things we can and can't afford

[depotoo]

Just quit-

Total Post-9/11—Iraq, Afghanistan/Other
Current Year $1046 billion Constant FY2011 $1147 billion

Tell us how it grew to $4-6 trillion under Obama

Thanks to an insane government run by criminals.

When will Americans wake up to the fraud being perpetrated on them?

I honestly dont understand why you would even post that. Believe me, i agree wars are a big part of our problem but to use those things(healthcare education) as reasons why?
Why would we want our corrupt govt handling that shit? Why would you?

It comes down to priorities

When Bush needed $4-6 trillion for his wars, we had no problem coming up with the money

But to come up with $1 trillion for healthcare?
Sorry, we can’t afford it

 

[BluesLegend]

Thanks to an insane government run by criminals.

When will Americans wake up to the fraud being perpetrated on them?

Don't forget billions and billions in tax cuts for folks who already have most of the money.

We make the money its ours, suck it.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

It's prounced 'fweebies', Ewe.

It's the damned wars that are killing us financially.

Really ? The largest chunk of the GDP is spent on entitlement programs. We spend twice as much on Social Security and Medicare as we do the Military.

Imagine how much we could do for the poor and middle class Americans, if we cut the War Dept. drastically?

Secondly, it should never be discounted how government's naturally become more and more tyrannical toward their citizens, as they become more and more militarily aggressive. We Americans have witnessed this historical precedent first hand since 9/11.

The elites love to claim SS unsustainable. When was the last time they claimed the War Dept. was unsustainable?

The "war on poverty" has been going on for 85 years Social Security is a Ponzi scheme that will never be sustainable

We have been funding our War Department for 200 years, yet still have wars

Social Security has been protecting people’s ability to retire for 80 years ...still going strong

No its not unfunded liabilities are almost 10 Trillion dollars.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

It's prounced 'fweebies', Ewe.

It's the damned wars that are killing us financially.

Really ? The largest chunk of the GDP is spent on entitlement programs. We spend twice as much on Social Security and Medicare as we do the Military.

Imagine how much we could do for the poor and middle class Americans, if we cut the War Dept. drastically?

Secondly, it should never be discounted how government's naturally become more and more tyrannical toward their citizens, as they become more and more militarily aggressive. We Americans have witnessed this historical precedent first hand since 9/11.

The elites love to claim SS unsustainable. When was the last time they claimed the War Dept. was unsustainable?

The "war on poverty" has been going on for 85 years Social Security is a Ponzi scheme that will never be sustainable

No, it is not a Ponzi scheme, and yes it can be sustainable, easily.

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned through legitimate sources. That sounds exactly what Social Security is. New investors aka tax payers fund those who are currently on SS with a promise of profit or benefits in the future. Except SS already has an unfunded liability of almost 10 trillion dollars. You could confiscate all the wealth of every Billionaires in the US and you'd still be about 2 trillion short.

 

[Crepitus]

Don't forget billions and billions in tax cuts for folks who already have most of the money.

Why do the Troglocrats want to take money from other people instead of making your own?

Why do you republicunts want to make it impossible for the average Joe to earn a living?

This coming from someone who's party says they are going to RAISE taxes if they win back the house? You gotta be fucking kidding me.

Somebody has to pay for tRump's ridiculous spending spree.

You have no problem feeding parasitical negro's,mexishit etc but have a problem fixing America....nice way to change the subject since you know you are full of shit...whining about the little man taking money home yet you dickheads want to raise his taxes.

Lol, damn.

 

[Crepitus]

Thanks to an insane government run by criminals.

When will Americans wake up to the fraud being perpetrated on them?

Don't forget billions and billions in tax cuts for folks who already have most of the money.

We make the money its ours, suck it.

Lol, part of the .1% are you? But still have plenty of time.to post on public message boards?

Pardon me while I doubt that.

 

[gipper]

Thanks to an insane government run by criminals.

When will Americans wake up to the fraud being perpetrated on them?

Don't forget billions and billions in tax cuts for folks who already have most of the money.

We make the money its ours, suck it.

Lol, part of the .1% are you? But still have plenty of time.to post on public message boards?

Pardon me while I doubt that.

...and besides, many of the .01% made their money by swinging sweetheart deals from a criminal central government. When they fail, as we witnessed first hand ten years ago, that same criminal central government bails them out, but does little to nothing to help the average citizen.

Is it any wonder the .01% love socialism? ...but only for them.

 

[gipper]

It's prounced 'fweebies', Ewe.

It's the damned wars that are killing us financially.

Really ? The largest chunk of the GDP is spent on entitlement programs. We spend twice as much on Social Security and Medicare as we do the Military.

Imagine how much we could do for the poor and middle class Americans, if we cut the War Dept. drastically?

Secondly, it should never be discounted how government's naturally become more and more tyrannical toward their citizens, as they become more and more militarily aggressive. We Americans have witnessed this historical precedent first hand since 9/11.

The elites love to claim SS unsustainable. When was the last time they claimed the War Dept. was unsustainable?

The "war on poverty" has been going on for 85 years Social Security is a Ponzi scheme that will never be sustainable

No, it is not a Ponzi scheme, and yes it can be sustainable, easily.

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned through legitimate sources. That sounds exactly what Social Security is. New investors aka tax payers fund those who are currently on SS with a promise of profit or benefits in the future. Except SS already has an unfunded liability of almost 10 trillion dollars. You could confiscate all the wealth of every Billionaires in the US and you'd still be about 2 trillion short.

Yet Obama deficit spent $10 trillion in just eight years and Trump is continuing the spending. The Great Messiah could have made SS solvent for decades to come, had he used that money to benefit the vast majority of Americans, But alas, he spent that money enriching his wealthy donors. It is likely Trump will do the same.

The strange thing is...some of those same wealthy donors like to proclaim SS is not sustainable. How ironic.

Do you see the fraud being perpetrated on the American people?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Crepitus, help TK with SS as opposed to ponzi schemes. The latter is unsustainable, while the former is easily continued with some minor reform.

 

[rightwinger]

It's prounced 'fweebies', Ewe.

It's the damned wars that are killing us financially.

Really ? The largest chunk of the GDP is spent on entitlement programs. We spend twice as much on Social Security and Medicare as we do the Military.

Imagine how much we could do for the poor and middle class Americans, if we cut the War Dept. drastically?

Secondly, it should never be discounted how government's naturally become more and more tyrannical toward their citizens, as they become more and more militarily aggressive. We Americans have witnessed this historical precedent first hand since 9/11.

The elites love to claim SS unsustainable. When was the last time they claimed the War Dept. was unsustainable?

The "war on poverty" has been going on for 85 years Social Security is a Ponzi scheme that will never be sustainable

We have been funding our War Department for 200 years, yet still have wars

Social Security has been protecting people’s ability to retire for 80 years ...still going strong

No its not unfunded liabilities are almost 10 Trillion dollars.

There is a funding source identified

Social Security is solvent....always has been

 

[rightwinger]

Really ? The largest chunk of the GDP is spent on entitlement programs. We spend twice as much on Social Security and Medicare as we do the Military.

Imagine how much we could do for the poor and middle class Americans, if we cut the War Dept. drastically?

Secondly, it should never be discounted how government's naturally become more and more tyrannical toward their citizens, as they become more and more militarily aggressive. We Americans have witnessed this historical precedent first hand since 9/11.

The elites love to claim SS unsustainable. When was the last time they claimed the War Dept. was unsustainable?

The "war on poverty" has been going on for 85 years Social Security is a Ponzi scheme that will never be sustainable

No, it is not a Ponzi scheme, and yes it can be sustainable, easily.

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned through legitimate sources. That sounds exactly what Social Security is. New investors aka tax payers fund those who are currently on SS with a promise of profit or benefits in the future. Except SS already has an unfunded liability of almost 10 trillion dollars. You could confiscate all the wealth of every Billionaires in the US and you'd still be about 2 trillion short.

Yet Obama deficit spent $10 trillion in just eight years and Trump is continuing the spending. The Great Messiah could have made SS solvent for decades to come, had he used that money to benefit the vast majority of Americans, But alas, he spent that money enriching his wealthy donors. It is likely Trump will do the same.

The strange thing is...some of those same wealthy donors like to proclaim SS is not sustainable. How ironic.

Do you see the fraud being perpetrated on the American people?

Social Security just needs to raise its annual threshold to all income and raise retirement age

 

[gipper]

Imagine how much we could do for the poor and middle class Americans, if we cut the War Dept. drastically?

Secondly, it should never be discounted how government's naturally become more and more tyrannical toward their citizens, as they become more and more militarily aggressive. We Americans have witnessed this historical precedent first hand since 9/11.

The elites love to claim SS unsustainable. When was the last time they claimed the War Dept. was unsustainable?

The "war on poverty" has been going on for 85 years Social Security is a Ponzi scheme that will never be sustainable

No, it is not a Ponzi scheme, and yes it can be sustainable, easily.

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned through legitimate sources. That sounds exactly what Social Security is. New investors aka tax payers fund those who are currently on SS with a promise of profit or benefits in the future. Except SS already has an unfunded liability of almost 10 trillion dollars. You could confiscate all the wealth of every Billionaires in the US and you'd still be about 2 trillion short.

Yet Obama deficit spent $10 trillion in just eight years and Trump is continuing the spending. The Great Messiah could have made SS solvent for decades to come, had he used that money to benefit the vast majority of Americans, But alas, he spent that money enriching his wealthy donors. It is likely Trump will do the same.

The strange thing is...some of those same wealthy donors like to proclaim SS is not sustainable. How ironic.

Do you see the fraud being perpetrated on the American people?

Social Security just needs to raise its annual threshold to all income and raise retirement age

Just imagine how great things could be for most Americans had your criminal Messiah actually spent $10 trillion helping Americans, rather than further enriching his rich donors.

 

[rightwinger]

The "war on poverty" has been going on for 85 years Social Security is a Ponzi scheme that will never be sustainable

No, it is not a Ponzi scheme, and yes it can be sustainable, easily.

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned through legitimate sources. That sounds exactly what Social Security is. New investors aka tax payers fund those who are currently on SS with a promise of profit or benefits in the future. Except SS already has an unfunded liability of almost 10 trillion dollars. You could confiscate all the wealth of every Billionaires in the US and you'd still be about 2 trillion short.

Yet Obama deficit spent $10 trillion in just eight years and Trump is continuing the spending. The Great Messiah could have made SS solvent for decades to come, had he used that money to benefit the vast majority of Americans, But alas, he spent that money enriching his wealthy donors. It is likely Trump will do the same.

The strange thing is...some of those same wealthy donors like to proclaim SS is not sustainable. How ironic.

Do you see the fraud being perpetrated on the American people?

Social Security just needs to raise its annual threshold to all income and raise retirement age

Just imagine how great things could be for most Americans had your criminal Messiah actually spent $10 trillion helping Americans, rather than further enriching his rich donors.

The Great Obama borrowed money to rescue the economy
Crooked Donnie borrowed money to give to rich people

 

[gipper]

No, it is not a Ponzi scheme, and yes it can be sustainable, easily.

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned through legitimate sources. That sounds exactly what Social Security is. New investors aka tax payers fund those who are currently on SS with a promise of profit or benefits in the future. Except SS already has an unfunded liability of almost 10 trillion dollars. You could confiscate all the wealth of every Billionaires in the US and you'd still be about 2 trillion short.

Yet Obama deficit spent $10 trillion in just eight years and Trump is continuing the spending. The Great Messiah could have made SS solvent for decades to come, had he used that money to benefit the vast majority of Americans, But alas, he spent that money enriching his wealthy donors. It is likely Trump will do the same.

The strange thing is...some of those same wealthy donors like to proclaim SS is not sustainable. How ironic.

Do you see the fraud being perpetrated on the American people?

Social Security just needs to raise its annual threshold to all income and raise retirement age

Just imagine how great things could be for most Americans had your criminal Messiah actually spent $10 trillion helping Americans, rather than further enriching his rich donors.

The Great Obama borrowed money to rescue the economy
Crooked Donnie borrowed money to give to rich people

He borrowed money to bailout his rich buddies.

 

[there4eyeM]

Allowing people to be sick when it is avoidable is, itself, a sick thing.
Healthcare costs are going to be paid one way or another. We can save money and help more people, or we can help insurance companies pay benefits.

 

[gipper]

Allowing people to be sick when it is avoidable is, itself, a sick thing.
Healthcare costs are going to be paid one way or another. We can save money and help more people, or we can help insurance companies pay benefits.

I suspect the powers-that-be want sick Americans. What a great way to get rich.

Of course, our criminal government fails to protect the people, but does do a great job protecting the rich.

 

[MisterBeale]

We can afford to give a $1.5 trillion tax cut to billionaires

But infrastructure, healthcare, education...
Are you crazy? We can’t afford that

Naah, You're just a crazy ass Obama worshiper. gipper is right, Obama is a warmonger and just lied about his priorities. . .

Obama: Shovel Ready jobs not shovel ready

 

[gipper]

We can afford to give a $1.5 trillion tax cut to billionaires

But infrastructure, healthcare, education...
Are you crazy? We can’t afford that

Naah, You're just a crazy ass Obama worshiper. gipper is right, Obama is a warmonger and just lied about his priorities. . .

Obama: Shovel Ready jobs not shovel ready

He knows you are right, but too partisan to accept it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

MisterBeale is self identifying his own mistakes with Obama, who in fact was no warmonger and was quite honest about his priorities of infrastructure, health care, and education.

 

[gipper]

Thanks to an insane government run by criminals.

When will Americans wake up to the fraud being perpetrated on them?

Biggest spending is on military, VA healthcare and welfare.

It is the government's job to protect this country, which means a strong military. It is the government's duty to protect our borders, which means adequate border security.

It is not the government's job to get involved in most other things, like wealth redistribution. And if the government wasn't so involved in the free market, it's likely some company would have advanced in their research for renewable energy. All we got from spending billions during Obama years was Solyndra and other companies that took the money and ran. Didn't produce shit.

Our government's priorities are well-defined in the constitution. Foreign aid to hostile countries- not their job. Redistributing money for illegal aliens, able-bodied people who don't work, and a healthcare system that doesn't work- not their job.

Government shouldn't be in the student loan business or any business. Once government decides to pay the bill by confiscation of the worker's wages, prices go up and the businesses that fund campaigns rake in the big money.

Government screwed over veterans by spending too much on a poorly run government system called the VA. No way in hell should they try to run the entire country's health system the same way.

Leftists seem to think that government should be heavily involved in everyone's life. That is unconstitutional.

If they would stick to their duty, as defined by our founding document, we wouldn't be in this mess. If private companies were allowed to compete and we had government out of the way, everything from healthcare to rebuilding infrastructure would be way cheaper.

We had roads, bridges, transportation, schools, hospitals and charities long before government decided to take over those things. Once they did, quality went down and cost went up.

If you think our government is protecting us, you need to think again.

Where was the most advanced and expensive military the world has ever known, on 9/11?