They teach the kids it's OK to have an abortion is it any wonder they pull out a gun and shoot...

[JoeB131]

If simple access to guns was the cause of mass shootings we'd all be dead right now.
Obviously there's a little more to it than that.

That most people don't want to spend the rest of their lives in jail... um. yeah.

Don't be a silly person.

We are the only country that has this problem. We are the only country that considers gun ownership a "right".

 

[impuretrash]

If simple access to guns was the cause of mass shootings we'd all be dead right now.
Obviously there's a little more to it than that.

That most people don't want to spend the rest of their lives in jail... um. yeah.

Don't be a silly person.

We are the only country that has this problem. We are the only country that considers gun ownership a "right".

Threat of life in prison is the only thing preventing you from walking into a school and shooting children? wow ok

 

[bullwinkle]

The left want to blame the gun and the right spend all their time deflecting that position as you just did. Meanwhile the real catalyst escapes the discussion so no meaningful ideas to curb the problem ever occur.

You are so right, Gramps. And the same should apply to vaping and opioid addiction too. It ain't the vapor or the drug to blame so why ban (punish) them or the doctors who prescribe them? snerk

 

[JoeB131]

Threat of life in prison is the only thing preventing you from walking into a school and shooting children? wow ok

Naw, those kids didn't do anything to piss me off.

Now, there are people who have pissed me off, and my fear of going to jail for life is the only reason most of them are still wasting oxygen.

 

[Blackrook]

That's a really lame statement.

Teaching children that other children have no human rights is designed to increase their violence to other children.

I grew up Catholic where we got the Anti-Abortion propaganda every day...

And those kids were all the meanest fuckers in the world.

You're a fucking liar.

 

[2aguy]

...people?

Because abortion teaches kids that the value of human life = zip, nada, nothing.

They're just acting out on the information they learn at school.

Um, wow... Leave it to the anti-Choice nuts to try to cram their religious nuttiness into any tragedy.

Here's why we had Mass Shooting #2184 yesterday.

Because people have access to guns.

Period.

Moron....600 million guns in private hands.......

Number of mass public shootings in 2018....12. Total killed? 93......

Number of people killed by lawn mowers each year, over 70.

Number of people killed with knives every year....over 1,500.

Number of people killed with cars in 2017? over 38,000

You are an idiot....

600 million guns and 12 of them were used illegally in mass public shootings....you really need to think before you post.

 

[2aguy]

If simple access to guns was the cause of mass shootings we'd all be dead right now.
Obviously there's a little more to it than that.

That most people don't want to spend the rest of their lives in jail... um. yeah.

Don't be a silly person.

We are the only country that has this problem. We are the only country that considers gun ownership a "right".

Those other countries are going to experience this problem...their welfare states have destroyed their families now, and those fatherless boys are going to be looking to make society pay....

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

...people?

Because abortion teaches kids that the value of human life = zip, nada, nothing.

They're just acting out on the information they learn at school.

One has nothing to do with the other. If you look at the President, you see that America has lost its' moral compass.

Trump got elected, in part, because he accused Hillary Clinton of being in favor of partial-birth abortion, and she didn't deny it.

Trump got in because a demographic who were never represented before got their say. STUPID PEOPLE.

That's why nobody likes you Democrat cocksuckers. You guys assume everyone who doesn't agree with you is stupid. You have this surly carrot stuck up your ass like you're each an omnipotent little God walking the Earth.

 

[JoeB131]

You're a fucking liar.

Nope... Grew up in a Chicago Catholic Parish, and frankly, they were a wonderful community of nasty, racist ugly people...

Those other countries are going to experience this problem...their welfare states have destroyed their families now, and those fatherless boys are going to be looking to make society pay....

And then when they can't find any guns.. they'll just keep being angry.

That's why nobody likes you Democrat cocksuckers. You guys assume everyone who doesn't agree with you is stupid. You have this surly carrot stuck up your ass like you're each an omnipotent little God walking the Earth.

Most of you are stupid. You cling to your guns and your bibles as the rich keep fucking you, and you keep putting up with it.

 

[JoeB131]

Moron....600 million guns in private hands.......

Number of mass public shootings in 2018....12. Total killed? 93......

All your numbers are wrong... I hope you don't have a job that actually involves any kind of math.

 

[2aguy]

You're a fucking liar.

Nope... Grew up in a Chicago Catholic Parish, and frankly, they were a wonderful community of nasty, racist ugly people...

Those other countries are going to experience this problem...their welfare states have destroyed their families now, and those fatherless boys are going to be looking to make society pay....

And then when they can't find any guns.. they'll just keep being angry.

That's why nobody likes you Democrat cocksuckers. You guys assume everyone who doesn't agree with you is stupid. You have this surly carrot stuck up your ass like you're each an omnipotent little God walking the Earth.

Most of you are stupid. You cling to your guns and your bibles as the rich keep fucking you, and you keep putting up with it.

Moron....Britain is being flooded with illegal guns, Sweden is flooded with illegal guns, in France, the weapon of choice for criminals is the AK-47, the military version......you don't know what you are talking about.

 

[2aguy]

Moron....600 million guns in private hands.......

Number of mass public shootings in 2018....12. Total killed? 93......

All your numbers are wrong... I hope you don't have a job that actually involves any kind of math.

Wow......that was great......my numbers are wrong.......just cause you say so....wow, great....

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


Rental Truck in Nice, France, 86 murdered in 5 minutes...

Total number murdered in mass public shootings by year...

Lawn mower deaths every year.... more than 75
(https://munews.missouri.edu/news-releases/2007/0419-lawn-mowers.php)

2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

 

[KGB]

...people?

Because abortion teaches kids that the value of human life = zip, nada, nothing.

They're just acting out on the information they learn at school.

You are a man, you have no right to have a choice about abortion. Its not your reproductive system, stay out of it. Only women have that right,

although men make them pg, the HS boys love to bed girls and leave them high and dry.

So which organ of the woman’s body is the unborn child? Does the unborn child share the same DNA as other organs of the woman? Abortion is a perversion & a disgusting stain on our nation’s history.

 

[KGB]

You're a fucking liar.

Nope... Grew up in a Chicago Catholic Parish, and frankly, they were a wonderful community of nasty, racist ugly people...

Those other countries are going to experience this problem...their welfare states have destroyed their families now, and those fatherless boys are going to be looking to make society pay....

And then when they can't find any guns.. they'll just keep being angry.

That's why nobody likes you Democrat cocksuckers. You guys assume everyone who doesn't agree with you is stupid. You have this surly carrot stuck up your ass like you're each an omnipotent little God walking the Earth.

Most of you are stupid. You cling to your guns and your bibles as the rich keep fucking you, and you keep putting up with it.

Moron....Britain is being flooded with illegal guns, Sweden is flooded with illegal guns, in France, the weapon of choice for criminals is the AK-47, the military version......you don't know what you are talking about.

That’s normal for Joe....don’t be shocked...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

If simple access to guns was the cause of mass shootings we'd all be dead right now.
Obviously there's a little more to it than that.

That most people don't want to spend the rest of their lives in jail... um. yeah.

Don't be a silly person.

We are the only country that has this problem. We are the only country that considers gun ownership a "right".

It is considered a right in Switzerland and they have many laws far more relaxed than ours yet they do not have this problem. Guns alone are not the problem

 

[JoeB131]

Britain is being flooded with illegal guns, Sweden is flooded with illegal guns, in France, the weapon of choice for criminals is the AK-47, the military version......you don't know what you are talking about.

The UK had 11 Gun Homicides in 2015.

France had 70.

The US had 14,500.

We've been over these numbers, buddy.

Guns in France — Firearms, gun law and gun control

The problem isn't "Criminals". The problem is regular folks having access to guns, and turning minor problems into major tragedies.

 

[JoeB131]

It is considered a right in Switzerland and they have many laws far more relaxed than ours yet they do not have this problem. Guns alone are not the problem

Uh, no.

Switzerland cracked down on gun ownership after some nut shot up a town hall.

Tighter gun laws approved by Swiss voters despite opposition

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

If simple access to guns was the cause of mass shootings we'd all be dead right now.
Obviously there's a little more to it than that.

That most people don't want to spend the rest of their lives in jail... um. yeah.

Don't be a silly person.

We are the only country that has this problem. We are the only country that considers gun ownership a "right".

It is considered a right in Switzerland and they have many laws far more relaxed than ours yet they do not have this problem. Guns alone are not the problem

They are also not packed with ******* and wetbacks.

 

[2aguy]

Britain is being flooded with illegal guns, Sweden is flooded with illegal guns, in France, the weapon of choice for criminals is the AK-47, the military version......you don't know what you are talking about.

The UK had 11 Gun Homicides in 2015.

France had 70.

The US had 14,500.

We've been over these numbers, buddy.

Guns in France — Firearms, gun law and gun control

The problem isn't "Criminals". The problem is regular folks having access to guns, and turning minor problems into major tragedies.

Moron.....British teens are currently knifing each other to death and with the flood of illegal guns entering the country they are going to be shooting each other to death....

This is France you moron.....

Marseille policeman who faced Kalashnikov gang: 'They do not fear us'

But the main problem for police in Marseille when it comes to drug gangs is not their cars or the guns so much.

"These criminals do not fear the police or the justice system," he said.

Which means that among the police force in Marseille, a city where certain neighbourhoods have been blighted by gun violence in recent years, there is an increasing climate of fear.

"Of course I am scared," said the officer. "I am a police officer but I am also a human, a father with a family. Each day I ask myself if I am going to see my children tonight."
A policeman who was among the squad who responded to emergency calls from residents in the Busserine neighbourhood has spoken of how he and his colleagues live in fear of being killed and how they stood no chance against the Kalashnikovs.

The officer, whose colleague had a gun pointed at him, said the gunmen were impossible to stop because there were so many members of the public around.

"If we had rammed their car or blocked them there would have been a lot of damage. You need to think we had civilians around us and above all there were children. Innocent people would have died.

The officer was shocked by the gunmens' brazen act, which he said was not their usual type of manoevre.




ris attacks highlight France's gun control problems

The arsenal of weapons deployed by the eight attackers who terrorised Paris on Friday night underlined France’s gun control problems and raised the spectre of further attacks.

The country has extremely strict weapons laws, but Europe’s open borders and growing trade in illegal weapons means assault rifles are relatively easy to come by on the black market.


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France’s real gun problem

Despite these strict laws, France seems to be awash with guns. The guns used in high-profile terror attacks are really just the tip of the iceberg. In 2012, French authorities estimated that there were around 30,000 guns illegally in the country, many likely used by gangs for criminal activities. Of those guns, around 4,000 were likely to be "war weapons," Le Figaro reported, referring to items such as the Kalashnikov AK-variant rifles and Uzis. Statistics from the National Observatory for Delinquency, a government body created in 2003, suggest that the number of guns in France has grown by double digits every year.


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This is How AK-47s Get to Paris

France outlaws most gun ownership and it’s almost impossible to legally acquire a high-powered rifle such as an AK-47, so where did the weapons in the Nov. 13 terror attack—not to mention the bloody January assault by Islamic terrorists on the Paris office ofCharlie Hebdo magazine and the 2012 shootings by a militant in Toulouse—come from?



Guns soon became a major export commodity in the Balkans. Western Europe is the target market. “Many firearms trafficked in Europe come from the western Balkans after being held illegally after recent conflicts in the area,” Europol reported. In just one case from 2014, Slovakian cops intercepted a truck trying to enter the country with “a large number of grenades and firearms,”according to Europol. “The vehicle was travelling from Bosnia and Herzegovina to Sweden.”

And it’s not like the stream of weapons will end when dealers in the Balkans run out of war-vintage leftovers. “One of the reasons we see a lot of Kalashnikovs and AK-47s on the black market is because Russia has just upgraded the Kalashnikov,” Kathie Lynn Austin, an expert on arms trafficking with the Conflict Awareness Project, told Al Jazeera, “and that has created massive stockpiles of the older models.”

On March 6, 2012, French lawmakers passed a law tightening up gun regulation and increasing penalties for illegal ownership. Just five days later, Mohamed Merah—a French jihadist of Algerian descent—went on shooting rampage, killing seven people in three separate attacks in around Toulouse before a police sniper shot him dead.

Merah’s arsenal included an AK-47, an Uzi, a Sten submachine gun, a shotgun, and several pistols—all illegal. “He could only supply himself on the black market or from crime organizations, that’s clear,” Thierry Coste, a pro-gun lobbyist, told The Christian Science Monitor.

In October 2014, French police raided several homes across the country, breaking up an Internet-based smuggling ring, arresting 48 suspected traffickers, and seizing hundreds of illegal guns. Three months later on Jan. 7 this year, jihadist gunmen wielding AK-47s shot up Charlie Hebdo in Paris, killing 12 people.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It is considered a right in Switzerland and they have many laws far more relaxed than ours yet they do not have this problem. Guns alone are not the problem

Uh, no.

Switzerland cracked down on gun ownership after some nut shot up a town hall.

Tighter gun laws approved by Swiss voters despite opposition

The Swiss proposal, among other things, requires regular training on the use of firearms, special waivers to own some semi-automatic weapons and serial number tracking system for key parts of some guns. Gun owners would have to register any weapons not already registered within three years, and keep a registry of their gun collections.