The truth about Truman’s bombing Japan

[Billo_Really]

Mass murdering civilians indiscriminately may be the same as attacking a military installation in your small mind, but intelligent people think differently.

Hiroshima was home for a large military base.

 

[Billo_Really]

Stop posting. You know nothing.

Ya know what, I was going to stop posting until I read your bullshit, now I think I will post some more! How do you like those apples gippy?

Truth is, Hiroshima was payback for Pearl Harbor.

 

[gipper]

Hiroshima was home for a large military base.

Lol. Dupe Alert!

You’ll believe anything the criminal state proclaims if you believe that.

 

[gipper]

Ya know what, I was going to stop posting until I read your bullshit, now I think I will post some more! How do you like those apples gippy?

Truth is, Hiroshima was payback for Pearl Harbor.

Idiot.

Mass murdering hundreds of thousands of defenseless civilians is not the same as attacking a military installation. Sadly, you’re too dumb to know this.

IT WAS A WAR CRIME THAT UNFORTUNATELY NO ONE PAID PRICE.

 

[Unkotare]

That is disingenuous BS meant to bury any guilty feelings that might come with a clear, sober evaluation of history. It is most certainly NOT "anti-American" to look at history directly and objectively, and anyone who cannot do so due to emotion is no historian.

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[Billo_Really]

Of course "we" had a choice. truman didn't "have to" do what he did. Grave choices with monumental moral considerations.

Okay, I can agree to that.

 

[Billo_Really]

There were more than just two choices.

Okay. He could've bombed other cities.

 

[Billo_Really]

Lol. Dupe Alert!

You’ll believe anything the criminal state proclaims if you believe that.

Hiroshima was a city of considerable military importance. It contained the 2nd Army Headquarters, which commanded the defense of all of southern Japan. The city was a communications center, a storage point, and an assembly area for troops.

Now go fuck yourself!

 

[RetiredGySgt]

"The Japanese tried to surrender"

I know that, i have it in books. I am curious how one can say they have those documents.

access to via the internet I have a link to a site with source documents on the A bombs.

 

[elektra]

access to via the internet I have a link to a site with source documents on the A bombs.

nice, I will have to look it up, I think I seen a link in the past in one of your comments

 

[elektra]

the document I wish to see I think I must go to Yale University, visit Stimson's library/archives, for diary entries during the Potsdam conference

 

[RetiredGySgt]

the document I wish to see I think I must go to Yale University, visit Stimson's library/archives, for diary entries during the Potsdam conference

No internet link?

 

[AZrailwhale]

"The commanding general of the US Army Air Forces, Henry “Hap” Arnold, gave a strong indication of his views in a public statement 11 days after Hiroshima was attacked. Asked on August 17 by a New York Times reporter whether the atomic bomb caused Japan to surrender, Arnold said that “the Japanese position was hopeless even before the first atomic bomb fell, because the Japanese had lost control of their own air.”

The Japanese position was hopeless when the lost most of their fleet and all of their carrier aircraft at Leyte Gulf. However they still fought on and still believed that they could at best win the war, and at worst, dictate the terms of an armistice. Even after Hiroshima the six people governing Japan believed they could dictate terms to the allies. Delusional doesn't begin to describe the Japanese mindset.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Or a naval blockade.

Or demonstrated the bomb without deliberately targeting civilians.

Or waited longer.

Or followed up on the previously floated peace overtures MacArthur wrote to fdr about before Yalta.

Every day that the allies waited before forcing the Japanese to surrender cost the lives of Allied POWs, interned civilians and thousands of civilians in territories occupied by Japan. How many INNOCENT lives would you see lost to preserve the lives of citizens of the country that started the war in 1936 and supported the troops who committed an endless chain of atrocities across Asia and the Pacific Islands?

 

[AZrailwhale]

Hiroshima was a city of considerable military importance. It contained the 2nd Army Headquarters, which commanded the defense of all of southern Japan. The city was a communications center, a storage point, and an assembly area for troops.

Now go fuck yourself!

It was also a major shipyard complex and naval base. It was busy building minisubs and suicide boats right up until the day it was destroyed.

 

[Unkotare]

Every day that the allies waited before forcing the Japanese to surrender cost the lives of Allied POWs, interned civilians and thousands of civilians in territories occupied by Japan. How many INNOCENT lives would you see lost to preserve the lives of citizens of the country that started the war in 1936 and supported the troops who committed an endless chain of atrocities across Asia and the Pacific Islands?

Maybe FDR should have been thinking about that when he threw the letter from General MacArthur in the trash and completely dismissed any idea of ending the war earlier.

 

[gipper]

Hiroshima was a city of considerable military importance. It contained the 2nd Army Headquarters, which commanded the defense of all of southern Japan. The city was a communications center, a storage point, and an assembly area for troops.

Now go fuck yourself!

Yeah it was so important they forgot to bomb it until the end of the war. Yet they bombed every other major city in the country.

Think better. Don’t be a statist dupe.

 

[gipper]

It was also a major shipyard complex and naval base. It was busy building minisubs and suicide boats right up until the day it was destroyed.

You too know nothing.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yeah it was so important they forgot to bomb it until the end of the war. Yet they bombed every other major city in the country.

Think better. Don’t be a statist dupe.

retard they bombed both of the Nuked cities before ever dropping the nukes on them

 

[Mushroom]

It is incorrect.

And what is the correct translation?