The Top 100 Americans...

[blu]

Do you dislike him now because he is on Fox? Or because Fox has given him the editorial freedom to express his convictions as he always has on his radio show?

Such editorial freedom allowing real substance and analysis of ALL sides of every issue that has catapulted Fox to the top where it continues to beat the pants off everybody else.

Of course a great many of the Fox analysts and contributors are on Mr. T's list in the OP.

what? I don't care about it beign fox. I care that he went from a real conservative to a jesus, big government freak just because his employer changed

Big government freak? You HAVE to be kidding1 He is anything but. Where did you ever get that impression? The reason the Left has him high on the list of most hated is because he attacks so many of their big government cows.

he was for the patriot act before it became unpopular, he applauded the creation of DHS, and he was for the FISA updates. that is just 3

 

[The T]

...The Left Hates The Most.

From Townhall. The first 10 I'll list. if you're curious? This is the link. (It's an Adobe pdf so be forewarned).

From my reading, and the rhetoric I hear ? None of these suprises me in the very least. There is a brief explination in the pdf as to how they came to their conclusions.

Don't see your favourite 'Rightie'? Click on the link. Quite a fascinating list.

1. Glenn Beck
2. Sarah Palin
3. Rush Limbaugh
4. George W. Bush
5. Ann Coulter
6. Michelle Malkin
7. The Tea Party Patriot
8. Dick Cheney
9. Bill O'Reilly
10. Michele Bachman

Awesome, I like all those people... well to be perfectly honest I only like most of them because the left hates them which isn't a bad method of accounting in my book, since if the left hates you, you must be doing something right.

Dumbfuck bipolar thinking fuckwads like you make them rich.

A little jealousy bubbling to the surface?

 

[MIPS]

...The Left Hates The Most.

From Townhall. The first 10 I'll list. if you're curious? This is the link. (It's an Adobe pdf so be forewarned).

From my reading, and the rhetoric I hear ? None of these suprises me in the very least. There is a brief explination in the pdf as to how they came to their conclusions.

Don't see your favourite 'Rightie'? Click on the link. Quite a fascinating list.

1. Glenn Beck
2. Sarah Palin
3. Rush Limbaugh
4. George W. Bush
5. Ann Coulter
6. Michelle Malkin
7. The Tea Party Patriot
8. Dick Cheney
9. Bill O'Reilly
10. Michele Bachman

Awesome, I like all those people... well to be perfectly honest I only like most of them because the left hates them which isn't a bad method of accounting in my book, since if the left hates you, you must be doing something right.

Dumbfuck bipolar thinking fuckwads like you make them rich.

Well I have to give a shout out to the "Dumbfuck unipolar thinking fuckwads" on this one, after all we couldn't have made all these folks rich without their invaluable assistance.....

 

[blu]

Awesome, I like all those people... well to be perfectly honest I only like most of them because the left hates them which isn't a bad method of accounting in my book, since if the left hates you, you must be doing something right.

Dumbfuck bipolar thinking fuckwads like you make them rich.

Well I have to give a shout out to the "Dumbfuck unipolar thinking fuckwads" on this one, after all we couldn't have made all these folks rich without their invaluable assistance.....

I am waiting for you to disprove my logic post and show your math wizardry

 

[MIPS]

Dumbfuck bipolar thinking fuckwads like you make them rich.

Well I have to give a shout out to the "Dumbfuck unipolar thinking fuckwads" on this one, after all we couldn't have made all these folks rich without their invaluable assistance.....

I am waiting for you to disprove my logic post and show your math wizardry

Are you holding your breath perchance? if not do that and I'll get back to you shortly ....


Question for conservatives, this wouldn't be considered, like murder, would it?

 

[Charles_Main]

you should delete this post. it shows you understand 0 of logic. the point was that mips said he/she like anyone the left hates and the left hates manson implying that mips likes him. same can be said for hilter, etc

you call that logical? LOL

it fits perfectly into real logic which is how I explained it. lets see how I can break this down better.

lets begin:

assertion A = "since if the left hates you, you must be doing something right."

set B = "the people the left hates" which contains, for this simple example, elements {"Charles Manson", "Adolph Hitler"}

People that MIPs thinks is doing right is anyone in set B due to her assertion A.

therefore:

MIPs thinks charles manson and hilter were/are doing things right.

is logics really that difficult for you?

Your mistake is assuming the Left has ownership of hate for those people. The truth is most people, on the left and the right hate them both.

You also are buying into the Liberal propaganda that says Hitlers brand of Fascism was a product of the far right.

Wrong He was a national Socialist and a product of the left. Far Far right = a total lack of any government....as in anarchy not Totalitarianism. It is not your fault you think this way though. our schools and media have been mis representing the political spectrum for years putting communism at one end and the German Nazis at the other.

 

[blu]

Your mistake is assuming the Left has ownership of hate for those people. The truth is most people, on the left and the right hate them both.

You also are buying into the Liberal propaganda that says Hitlers brand of Fascism was a product of the far right.

Wrong He was a national Socialist and a product of the left. Far Far right = a total lack of any government....as in anarchy not Totalitarianism. It is not your fault you think this way though. our schools and media have been mis representing the political spectrum for years putting communism at one end and the German Nazis at the other.

you really are looking more and more uneducated. Where in my proof does it say the left only hates those people? the proof was about who the left hates so why would it include people right wingers hate? and do you really think that lefties hate hilter because they thought he was right wing?

nothing in your post disproves my post (not that it could b/c mine is solid logic), but you don't even come close or try.

I am almost willing to pay your tuition into a formal logics class and any prerequisite math you would need to take it .

 

[MIPS]

you call that logical? LOL

it fits perfectly into real logic which is how I explained it. lets see how I can break this down better.

lets begin:

assertion A = "since if the left hates you, you must be doing something right."

set B = "the people the left hates" which contains, for this simple example, elements {"Charles Manson", "Adolph Hitler"}

People that MIPs thinks is doing right is anyone in set B due to her assertion A.

therefore:

MIPs thinks charles manson and hilter were/are doing things right.

is logics really that difficult for you?

Your mistake is assuming the Left has ownership of hate for those people. The truth is most people, on the left and the right hate them both.

You also are buying into the Liberal propaganda that says Hitlers brand of Fascism was a product of the far right.

Wrong He was a national Socialist and a product of the left. Far Far right = a total lack of any government....as in anarchy not Totalitarianism. It is not your fault you think this way though. our schools and media have been mis representing the political spectrum for years putting communism at one end and the German Nazis at the other.

Umm Charles you know if take this path you're going to need to bring a big bottle of aspirin with you, right ? you're also going to need to lock up any sharp objects in the area so the kid doesn't hurt himself ...

 

[Foxfyre]

what? I don't care about it beign fox. I care that he went from a real conservative to a jesus, big government freak just because his employer changed

Big government freak? You HAVE to be kidding1 He is anything but. Where did you ever get that impression? The reason the Left has him high on the list of most hated is because he attacks so many of their big government cows.

he was for the patriot act before it became unpopular, he applauded the creation of DHS, and he was for the FISA updates. that is just 3

As was I and you don't get any more conservative or small government advocate than I am. The Federal government is constitutionally mandated to provide for the common defense. The Patriot Act, as it current exists--the objectionable stuff has been removed--DHS and FISA are all part of that. And all are supported by the Left and Right alike. In this post 9/11 age, we live in a much different world than existed before.

Wanting the Federal government to provide for the common defense however it needs to do that and secure our rights is what American conservatism is all about.

If they would have been focusing on that instread of all the stuff they focus on, the following would be true:

1. We would be safer
2. We would be much more fiscally solvent and prosperous
3. We would be much much more free.
4. The government would be a tiny fraction of the size and cost it currently is and maybe 99% less corrupt.
5. The financial meltdown and the BP blown out well would never have happened because the government would have been focusing on doing their job and managing that appropriately instead of protecting unions, buying votes, pushing socialistic programs, and taking away American rights.

And that is Beck's message in a nutshell.

And that I believe is where Christie is going with much of the policy he is pushing as well.

 

[Charles_Main]

Your mistake is assuming the Left has ownership of hate for those people. The truth is most people, on the left and the right hate them both.

You also are buying into the Liberal propaganda that says Hitlers brand of Fascism was a product of the far right.

Wrong He was a national Socialist and a product of the left. Far Far right = a total lack of any government....as in anarchy not Totalitarianism. It is not your fault you think this way though. our schools and media have been mis representing the political spectrum for years putting communism at one end and the German Nazis at the other.

you really are looking more and more uneducated. Where in my proof does it say the left only hates those people? the proof was about who the left hates so why would it include people right wingers hate? and do you really think that lefties hate hilter because they thought he was right wing?

nothing in your post disproves my post (not that it could b/c mine is solid logic), but you don't even come close or try.

I am almost willing to pay your tuition into a formal logics class and any prerequisite math you would need to take it .

No what were implying is if the left hates them the right must love them because one jack ass made a comment that he thinks that why.

That is not logical no matter how many times your liberal professors tell you it is. It is what I like to call pigeonholing. That's ok I can pigeonhole to, and I will, you are just like any typical Liberal resorting to joking about my education level and offering to pay for more.

Fucking Liberal elitist assholes man I tell ya.

 

[MIPS]

Big government freak? You HAVE to be kidding1 He is anything but. Where did you ever get that impression? The reason the Left has him high on the list of most hated is because he attacks so many of their big government cows.

he was for the patriot act before it became unpopular, he applauded the creation of DHS, and he was for the FISA updates. that is just 3

As was I and you don't get any more conservative or small government advocate than I am.

Wanna bet on that? Foxfyre meet Mr. Murray Rothbard, you two have little to talk about.

The Federal government is constitutionally mandated to provide for the common defense. The Patriot Act, as it current exists--the objectionable stuff has been removed--DHS and FISA are all part of that. And all are supported by the Left and Right alike. In this post 9/11 age, we live in a much different world than existed before.

Wanting the Federal government to provide for the common defense however it needs to do that and secure our rights is what American conservatism is all about.

If they would have been focusing on that instread of all the stuff they focus on, the following would be true:

1. We would be safer
2. We would be much more fiscally solvent and prosperous
3. We would be much much more free.
4. The government would be a tiny fraction of the size and cost it currently is and maybe 99% less corrupt.
5. The financial meltdown and the BP blown out well would never have happened because the government would have been focusing on doing their job and managing that appropriately instead of protecting unions, buying votes, pushing socialistic programs, and taking away American rights.

And that is Beck's message in a nutshell.

And that I believe is where Christie is going with much of the policy he is pushing as well.

True dat, 'cept your Chris Christie Porn was weak, very weak ...

 

[blu]

As was I and you don't get any more conservative or small government advocate than I am.

you are not a small gov conserv if you are for any of those

The Federal government is constitutionally mandated to provide for the common defense.

their spying on people in the country before 9/11 already netted them all the intel they needed to stop the attack they were just too incompetent to do it.

The Patriot Act, as it current exists--the objectionable stuff has been removed--DHS and FISA are all part of that. And all are supported by the Left and Right alike. In this post 9/11 age, we live in a much different world than existed before.

no it is not. the threat is the same as it was and we already had the hardware in place to stop the attack. people are just pussies now and bend over to the goverment whenever they think it will make them safer

1. We would be safer
2. We would be much more fiscally solvent and prosperous
3. We would be much much more free.
4. The government would be a tiny fraction of the size and cost it currently is and maybe 99% less corrupt.
5. The financial meltdown and the BP blown out well would never have happened because the government would have been focusing on doing their job and managing that appropriately instead of protecting unions, buying votes, pushing socialistic programs, and taking away American rights.

your list is nonsense. spying on all of our eletronic communcation and doing sweeps of peoples houses for high volumes of heat (drug war) does not make us free. having the ability to indefinitely detain us without cause does not make us free.

the financial meltdown is questionably government caused but no bank was forced to make bad loans, only encouraged.

and BP? are you kidding? the blow out happened because they were allowed to operate even after hundreds of safety violations and b/c our government bent over to the oil industry and didn't make them drill relief wells alongside working ones like every other industrialized country does. that alone would have stopped the spill on the first day.

And that I believe is where Christie is going with much of the policy he is pushing as well.

isn't christie the guy who wants to ban all offshore drilling?

 

[The T]

you call that logical? LOL

it fits perfectly into real logic which is how I explained it. lets see how I can break this down better.

lets begin:

assertion A = "since if the left hates you, you must be doing something right."

set B = "the people the left hates" which contains, for this simple example, elements {"Charles Manson", "Adolph Hitler"}

People that MIPs thinks is doing right is anyone in set B due to her assertion A.

therefore:

MIPs thinks charles manson and hilter were/are doing things right.

is logics really that difficult for you?

Your mistake is assuming the Left has ownership of hate for those people. The truth is most people, on the left and the right hate them both.

You also are buying into the Liberal propaganda that says Hitlers brand of Fascism was a product of the far right.

Wrong He was a national Socialist and a product of the left. Far Far right = a total lack of any government....as in anarchy not Totalitarianism. It is not your fault you think this way though. our schools and media have been mis representing the political spectrum for years putting communism at one end and the German Nazis at the other.

The political spectrum, from left to right, can be depicted as follows:

Totalitarianism (broadly defined as absolute state control)
Fascism/Nazism/Marxism/Communism (narrowly defined)
Socialism
Democracy
Republic
Anarchy

SOURCE

I also found this one quite interesting:

SOURCE Take a look?

 

[blu]

Your mistake is assuming the Left has ownership of hate for those people. The truth is most people, on the left and the right hate them both.

You also are buying into the Liberal propaganda that says Hitlers brand of Fascism was a product of the far right.

Wrong He was a national Socialist and a product of the left. Far Far right = a total lack of any government....as in anarchy not Totalitarianism. It is not your fault you think this way though. our schools and media have been mis representing the political spectrum for years putting communism at one end and the German Nazis at the other.

you really are looking more and more uneducated. Where in my proof does it say the left only hates those people? the proof was about who the left hates so why would it include people right wingers hate? and do you really think that lefties hate hilter because they thought he was right wing?

nothing in your post disproves my post (not that it could b/c mine is solid logic), but you don't even come close or try.

I am almost willing to pay your tuition into a formal logics class and any prerequisite math you would need to take it .

No what were implying is if the left hates them the right must love them because one jack ass made a comment that he thinks that why.

That is not logical no matter how many times your liberal professors tell you it is. It is what I like to call pigeonholing. That's ok I can pigeonhole to, and I will, you are just like any typical Liberal resorting to joking about my education level and offering to pay for more.

Fucking Liberal elitist assholes man I tell ya.

no dumbass, did I even mention righties once in the post in question? nope, I was talking about MIPs and that was it. too bad you can't disprove my post so you babble on about nothing

 

[rightwinger]

1. Glenn Beck
2. Sarah Palin
3. Rush Limbaugh
4. George W. Bush
5. Ann Coulter
6. Michelle Malkin
7. The Tea Party Patriot
8. Dick Cheney
9. Bill O'Reilly
10. Michele Bachman

Not a bad list, I would have found room for Hannity on there someplace. Especially ahead of O'Reilly. I would put Cheney ahead of Palin. While Palin is fun to make fun of...Cheney is fucking dangerous.


While not in the top 10, Roger Ailes who pulls the strings at Fox News is the one who sets the agenda and makes it possible for all the Fox lynch mob to operate.

What is really relevant is that only number 10 is actually elected to any office right now and she is a minor Congresswoman. None of these "leaders" of the rightwing actually has any elected power

 

[MIPS]

you are not a small gov conserv if you are for any of those

So sayeth the self appointed progressive commission of one on what is and isn't a "small gov conserv" .....

their spying on people in the country before 9/11 already netted them all the intel they needed to stop the attack they were just too incompetent to do it.

Yeah the big gub'ment you worship failed to do it's job, what a surprise, huh ?

and BP? are you kidding? the blow out happened because they were allowed to operate even after hundreds of safety violations and b/c our government bent over to the oil industry and didn't make them drill relief wells alongside working ones like every other industrialized country does. that alone would have stopped the spill on the first day.

I guess 73,000 pages of economic regulations isn't enough for the government bureaucracy to fail to enforce, perhaps a few hundred thousand more will protect all of us from reality.

isn't christie the guy who wants to ban all offshore drilling?

No genius, Chris Christie is the governor of New Jersey, you're thinking of Charlie Crist the Governor of Florida which is like a whole 'nother one of the 57 states.

 

[The T]

Awesome, I like all those people... well to be perfectly honest I only like most of them because the left hates them which isn't a bad method of accounting in my book, since if the left hates you, you must be doing something right.

Dumbfuck bipolar thinking fuckwads like you make them rich.

Well I have to give a shout out to the "Dumbfuck unipolar thinking fuckwads" on this one, after all we couldn't have made all these folks rich without their invaluable assistance.....

See this is the thing? These people that succeed at their craft are saying and demonstrating what the vast majority of Americans whom prize Liberty know and understand already.

And this is what gets under the Statist skin...These people operate businesses in their craft...and if they weren't so good at it? (Take Limbaugh for instance)...

He resurrected AM radio...a dying medium in the mid 1980's. And had he been spewing the hate/vitriol that he is so oft accused of doing by the same that he makes great sport of?

He would have been gone a very long time ago. So it would seem to me that people like Limbaugh, Beck, et.,al were so terrible?

The public would have abandoned them. You would see their faces asking "you want fries with that order..."?

Make no mistake. What we see is bloviating from a rather large group that still doesn't get it.

~T

 

[blu]

Yeah the big gub'ment you worship failed to do it's job, what a surprise, huh ?

you are really stupid I voted for ron paul and worked many other people to vote for him as well due to his small gov principles

I guess 73,000 pages of economic regulations isn't enough for the government bureaucracy to fail to enforce, perhaps a few hundred thousand more will protect all of us from reality.

it was enough to identify the problems but the gov didn't have the balls to shut them down

No genius, Chris Christie is the governor of New Jersey, you're thinking of Charlie Crist the Governor of Florida which is like a whole 'nother one of the 57 states.

the h in the last name did look out of place. you mean the guy from NJ who retards now worship b/c he cut pensions and called it saving money even though he will just have to pay them later. smoke and mirrors is now solid economics

 

[Foxfyre]

As was I and you don't get any more conservative or small government advocate than I am.

you are not a small gov conserv if you are for any of those

The Federal government is constitutionally mandated to provide for the common defense.

their spying on people in the country before 9/11 already netted them all the intel they needed to stop the attack they were just too incompetent to do it.



no it is not. the threat is the same as it was and we already had the hardware in place to stop the attack. people are just pussies now and bend over to the goverment whenever they think it will make them safer

1. We would be safer
2. We would be much more fiscally solvent and prosperous
3. We would be much much more free.
4. The government would be a tiny fraction of the size and cost it currently is and maybe 99% less corrupt.
5. The financial meltdown and the BP blown out well would never have happened because the government would have been focusing on doing their job and managing that appropriately instead of protecting unions, buying votes, pushing socialistic programs, and taking away American rights.

your list is nonsense. spying on all of our eletronic communcation and doing sweeps of peoples houses for high volumes of heat (drug war) does not make us free. having the ability to indefinitely detain us without cause does not make us free.

the financial meltdown is questionably government caused but no bank was forced to make bad loans, only encouraged.

and BP? are you kidding? the blow out happened because they were allowed to operate even after hundreds of safety violations and b/c our government bent over to the oil industry and didn't make them drill relief wells alongside working ones like every other industrialized country does. that alone would have stopped the spill on the first day.

And that I believe is where Christie is going with much of the policy he is pushing as well.

isn't christie the guy who wants to ban all offshore drilling?

No, but I did get my threads mixed up here. Christie is being discussed on another thread. Sorry about that.

But gee Blu. If you are opposed to the Patriot Act, DHS, and FISA you sure have a really narrow field of candidates to pick from and a really skimpy voter base too. Any conservative that would get my vote would not looking to dismantle those without having something better to replace them ready to go.

So wel'll just have to agree to disagree. And you will have to hate all 100 people on that list I guess. As well as everybody in the current Administration and 99% of Congress.

 

[Sarah G]

I don't see how anyone could hate these people, they're all just so cute and lovable aren't they?