The super congress. What do you all think.

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    It is a very interesting concept that borders on being unconstitutional. Tax bills have to be originated in the House, that cannot be delegated to the group. What I find likely is that nothing will get agreed on and automatic cuts to Social security, Medicare and entitlement programs take effect that have already been agreed to. The Repubs have the winning hand here and do not have to do anything. I wonder how many of the 6 seats the Repubs have will be T party. And why did they pick an even number?
     
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    The unconstitutional train rolls on. No, nothing could ever go wrong here.
     
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    Really? Defense spending will be hit the hardest if there is no action. Doesn't sound like the GOP won to me.
     
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    This "deal" is NOT a win for the Tea Party, it is NOT a "win" for the BOP and it is absolutely NOT a "win" for the American people.

    The super committee compromise has some intriguing "triggers" but when push comes to shove, there are too many "off" switches which the President will be able to take advantage of.

    The whole membership of the House WILL have to vote on whatever the "superduperpooperscooper" committee proposes, though.
     
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    These are very strange days in politics. Super Congress? Lobbyists just need to focus on 12....sounds like a recipe for corruption to me. But....I'm just a nut for even thinking that way, huh?
     
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    It does seem like it would be easier to corrupt one or more of 12 than it would be to corrupt enough of 435 to make a difference...
     
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    If the committee was just advisory and anything agreed to was put to the chambers then it would be constitutional. However the triggers and other powers they are delegating to the committee circumvent the essence of the Constitution and therefore makes those things unconstitutional. I suspect there will be legal action taken challenging the constitutionality of those powers, derived or otherwise delegated.
     
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    I am not sure that any proposals from the SuperDuperPooperScooper Committee have any impact on what will happen OTHER THAN that they make the proposals to the entire House.

    If that's wrong, and if you're right, though, then this is an egregious and cowardly effort to delegate non-delegable responsibilities.

    My understanding is that the Super Committee makes proposals that the Congress then has a deadline to enact (or not). If the Congress fails to enact the proposals, then the triggers theoretically kick in "automatically."
     
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    Then lack of a proposal gives the the committee derived powers to enact those cuts. I have been hearing rumors of other powers but yet to see anything concrete. To me the whole thing is cowardly way to get out of doing what we sent them for.
     

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