Old Rocks
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And there is the little matter of the thermal expansion of the ocean as it warms.
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I'll be the first to admit that the Earth is getting warmer. 1 degree over the last 100 years is an increase. What I dispute is that it's caused by man, there are theories that it has been caused by increased sunspot activity. Truth is, I don't know, and neither does anybody else.
Now, if it is caused by man, what purpose does it serve to hamstring our own economy with the Kyoto agreement when the 2 biggest emitters of greenhouse gases, China and India, are not required to reduce THEIR emissions?
And if Al Gore is so damned certain the oceans are going to rise, why did he just buy a beachfront mansion in Ca.?
Well this New Zealand study is true BUT what you forgot to mention IS,that the high atmosphere CLOUDS are disappearing at a rapid rate (or should I say lowering and a % disappearing). IT IS THE EARTHS RESPONSE TO GLOBAL WARMING you dumb ass so the joke is on YOU....the reason blows out clearly your theory that there is NO GLOBAL WARMING,IT IS INFACT THE OPPOSITE.....you see when you are dealing with theliq,the all knowing liq,please GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT....because it underminds you.The sky is falling… sort of. Over the last 10 years, the height of clouds has been shrinking, according to new research.
it could have an important effect on global climate change.
Clouds that are lower in the atmosphere would allow Earth to cool more efficiently, potentially offsetting some of the warming caused by greenhouse gases.
Shrinking Sky! Cloud Tops Dropping Closer to Earth, NASA Satellite Finds | Atmospheric Science & Climate Change | Cloud Formation & Height | LiveScience
Gore's cottage would fit in the master bath of Limbaugh's place in Palm Beach.
Why is Rush's place bigger? Perhaps because more people take him seriously.
You dispute the facts because you've been duped by misinformation, propaganda and lies that have been circulated by the fossil fuel industry to purposely confuse the public and Congress. The evidence for anthropogenic warming is so indisputable scientifically that virtually all of the world's climate scientists and every national scientific academy, society, and organization accepts it.I'll be the first to admit that the Earth is getting warmer. 1 degree over the last 100 years is an increase. What I dispute is that it's caused by man,
And then there is the scientific evidence showing that the current abrupt warming trend is definitely not being caused by sunspot activity. Like the fact that the sun has been in the low part of its eleven year cycle of sunspot activity for the past half decade and is only now again approaching a maximum.there are theories that it has been caused by increased sunspot activity.
This is the only accurate thing you posted.Truth is, I don't know,
You imagining that is just another part of your overall ignorance of this subject. The experts who've studied this issue for decades agree that it is the 40% increase in atmospheric CO2 levels that mankind has caused that is driving the current abrupt warming trend.and neither does anybody else.
You're foolishly trying to conflate the science with the politics. The global warming and climate changes that the world is experiencing are definitely caused by man. Both India and China are working to cut their carbon emissions. America is still the biggest CO2 emitter on a per capita basis, and we have, over the last century or so, added a far greater total of CO2 to the atmosphere than any other country.Now, if it is caused by man, what purpose does it serve to hamstring our own economy with the Kyoto agreement when the 2 biggest emitters of greenhouse gases, China and India, are not required to reduce THEIR emissions?
LOL....so retarded....the answer is....HE DIDN'T BUY A "BEACHFRONT" MANSION, YOU POOR BAMBOOZLED FOOL.And if Al Gore is so damned certain the oceans are going to rise, why did he just buy a beachfront mansion in Ca.?
You dispute the facts because you've been duped by misinformation, propaganda and lies that have been circulated by the fossil fuel industry to purposely confuse the public and Congress. The evidence for anthropogenic warming is so indisputable scientifically that virtually all of the world's climate scientists and every national scientific academy, society, and organization accepts it.I'll be the first to admit that the Earth is getting warmer. 1 degree over the last 100 years is an increase. What I dispute is that it's caused by man,
Scientific opinion on climate change
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Scientific opinion on climate change is that the Earth's climate system is unequivocally warming and it is more than 90% certain that humans are causing it through activities that increase concentrations of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, such as deforestation and burning fossil fuels.[1][2][3][4] This scientific consensus is expressed in synthesis reports, scientific bodies of national or international standing, and surveys of opinion among climate scientists. Individual scientists, universities, and laboratories contribute to the overall scientific opinion via their peer-reviewed publications, and the areas of collective agreement and relative certainty are summarised in these high level reports and surveys.
National and international science academies and scientific societies have assessed the current scientific opinion, in particular on recent global warming. These assessments have largely followed or endorsed the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) position of January 2001 which states:
"An increasing body of observations gives a collective picture of a warming world and other changes in the climate system... There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities."
No scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion.
And then there is the scientific evidence showing that the current abrupt warming trend is definitely not being caused by sunspot activity. Like the fact that the sun has been in the low part of its eleven year cycle of sunspot activity for the past half decade and is only now again approaching a maximum.there are theories that it has been caused by increased sunspot activity.
Solar activity & climate: is the sun causing global warming?
This is the only accurate thing you posted.
You imagining that is just another part of your overall ignorance of this subject. The experts who've studied this issue for decades agree that it is the 40% increase in atmospheric CO2 levels that mankind has caused that is driving the current abrupt warming trend.
You're foolishly trying to conflate the science with the politics. The global warming and climate changes that the world is experiencing are definitely caused by man. Both India and China are working to cut their carbon emissions. America is still the biggest CO2 emitter on a per capita basis, and we have, over the last century or so, added a far greater total of CO2 to the atmosphere than any other country.Now, if it is caused by man, what purpose does it serve to hamstring our own economy with the Kyoto agreement when the 2 biggest emitters of greenhouse gases, China and India, are not required to reduce THEIR emissions?
AGW/CC is a very serious problem that has to worked on but the exact details of how we deal with this have nothing to do with the basic underlying reality of our situation.
LOL....so retarded....the answer is....HE DIDN'T BUY A "BEACHFRONT" MANSION, YOU POOR BAMBOOZLED FOOL.And if Al Gore is so damned certain the oceans are going to rise, why did he just buy a beachfront mansion in Ca.?
Your denier cult myths are really stupid and so easily debunked.
Vice President Gore bought a house a few years ago in Montecito, a suburb of Santa Barbara. The house is in the hills and is approx. 1200 feet above sea level. It is an 'ocean view' home, not an 'ocean front' home, as your lying denier cult myths would have it. Of course, VP Gore and his personal life have no real bearing on the scientific facts and evidence about global warming, climate change and rising sea levels. Your denier cult fixation on attacking the messenger is hilariously stupid and very pointless.
You see that blue line in the background? That's the ocean, as seen from a point high in the hills behind Montecito.
Yes, drug addicts are taken seriously.Gore's cottage would fit in the master bath of Limbaugh's place in Palm Beach.
Why is Rush's place bigger? Perhaps because more people take him seriously.
The emperor has no clothes, and rderp is right in front saying how great his new suit looks.I'll be the first to admit that the Earth is getting warmer. 1 degree over the last 100 years is an increase. What I dispute is that it's caused by man, there are theories that it has been caused by increased sunspot activity. Truth is, I don't know, and neither does anybody else.
Now, if it is caused by man, what purpose does it serve to hamstring our own economy with the Kyoto agreement when the 2 biggest emitters of greenhouse gases, China and India, are not required to reduce THEIR emissions?
And if Al Gore is so damned certain the oceans are going to rise, why did he just buy a beachfront mansion in Ca.?
Because he can?
my point is simple... do the arithmetic folks!
Really melting glaciers will add as much water as adding 10 ozs to Al's POOL!
Real stupid. Combined glacial and ice cap melt will add a meter to two meters by 2100. Providing the West Anarctic Ice Shelf doesn't shed a few chunks. Then it will be a bit more, kind of like a mechanics 'a bit more' on the bill.
Oh, c'mon, Gore is a little chunky, but I wouldn't call him obese.Gore's cottage would fit in the master bath of Limbaugh's place in Palm Beach.
Why is Rush's place bigger? Perhaps because more people take him seriously.
LOL. Yes, a certain type of person takes seriously a nearly scientifically illiterate obese junkie.
so your admitting that global warming is real, its just not a serious threat yet? how about the rise in global temperatures:
Data.GISS: GISS Surface Temperature Analysis: Analysis Graphs and Plots
i am much more inclined to believe this math than yours:
Warming to Cause Catastrophic Rise in Sea Level?
Most scientists agree that global warming presents the greatest threat to the environment.
There is little doubt that the Earth is heating up. In the last century the average temperature has climbed about 0.6 degrees Celsius (about 1 degree Fahrenheit) around the world.
From the melting of the ice cap on Mount Kilimanjaro, Africa's tallest peak, to the loss of coral reefs as oceans become warmer, the effects of global warming are often clear. However, the biggest danger, many experts warn, is that global warming will cause sea levels to rise dramatically. Thermal expansion has already raised the oceans 4 to 8 inches (10 to 20 centimeters). But that's nothing compared to what would happen if, for example, Greenland's massive ice sheet were to melt.
NASA and National Geographic are much more reputable sources than the French Tribune and The Democratic Underground....
a percent increase in gallons does not directly transfer to the same percent increase in the depths of the ocean. i just did the math that healthmyths asked someone to do. i used his numbers, not mine. it just dispels his claim that is all.
And there is the little matter of the thermal expansion of the ocean as it warms.
coast lines change daily due to the tides...... no beach is exactly the same as it was 1800's...And there is the little matter of the thermal expansion of the ocean as it warms.
Assuming that his quotation of 8 inches of vertical rise is correct, there should be plenty of photographic evidence of this rise from the coastal cities around the would.
What'cha got?
coast lines change daily due to the tides...... no beach is exactly the same as it was 1800's...And there is the little matter of the thermal expansion of the ocean as it warms.
Assuming that his quotation of 8 inches of vertical rise is correct, there should be plenty of photographic evidence of this rise from the coastal cities around the would.
What'cha got?
Rising Ocean Levels
Coastal Zones and Sea Level Rise | Climate Change - Health and Environmental Effects | U.S. EPA
The Rising Sea Level : Image of the Day
the only ones calling it a scam are the GOP from the US. do your research again, that is if you have done any at all.If Man-made global warming was real, why the need for the fraud, coercion and cover-up? Wouldn't the science speak for itself? Why would there be a need for the powers that be to come out and say "The science is settled!" when any good scientist knws that science is NEVER settled.
AGW alarmists and the phoney scientists who support it are cherry-picking the data. It has been proven many many times. The report icecaps and glaciers that are shrinking and ignore the ones that are growing, the report the dropping populations od polar bears in one place and ignore the population increase in other places.
It's a scam, plain and simple.
im sure those are the same people who dont think the tides change the landscape either.coast lines change daily due to the tides...... no beach is exactly the same as it was 1800's...Assuming that his quotation of 8 inches of vertical rise is correct, there should be plenty of photographic evidence of this rise from the coastal cities around the would.
What'cha got?
Rising Ocean Levels
Coastal Zones and Sea Level Rise | Climate Change - Health and Environmental Effects | U.S. EPA
The Rising Sea Level : Image of the Day
Which is one of the keys to the scam. They make a statement that the sea levels are rising yet when no one notices, even the people who live on the beach, they use excuses like this one.