The Sixties Left versus the Tea Party: a study in pure obedience.

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    The Sixties Left turned against LBJ because of Vietnam.

    “HEY HEY LBJ, HOW MANY KIDS DID YOU KILL TODAY?"

    LBJ was denied a second term because he lost the Left - he lost his base.

    You don't see this on the Right because rightwing voters are far more obedient to their Washington leaders.

    The Right - as rule - only protests a sitting Republican president after he becomes a lame duck.

    This is why the rightwing voters defended Bush in the 2004 election with all their might despite his MASSIVE spending. This is why they only turned on Bush and Big Government Conservatism after Bush became a lame duck.

    I have a Question

    Why are Republican voters so obedient to Republican Presidents? Why do Tea Party protests and GOP filibusters never happen with a first term Republican president? None of the GOP senators who filibustered Obama into paralysis opposed a nickel of Bush spending, which doubled Clinton's. Why? Why did the GOP congress pass the largest expansion of Medicare in the program's history? Why do they only care about limiting the size of government when there is a democratic president? Why did Reagan get a way with doubling the spending of Carter? Why did Bush get a way with doubling the spending of Clinton? Why are Republican voters so easily fooled by their own party? Why are they so obedient to their Washington leaders?
     
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    Why do the Democrats follow in lockstep with Obama? Why did the so called blue dog Democrats who opposed a lot of Obamacare finally breakdown and fall in line instead of going to a filibuster to stop it? Why did you compare the Tea Party and the right to the left of the 60's but not compare the left of Today to the left of the 60's? I think we all know the answer don't we? It would bring up some inconvenient truths.
     
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    Better question: Whatever happened to the generation of "never trust anyone over 30", "do your own thing" and complete revulsion toward the establishment?

    A: They became the establishment that they claimed to detest.
     
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    That would be Bill and Hillary Clinton and friends. The Chicago Seven, etal.
     
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    Ah yes, remind us of Clinton. Balanced budget, longest economic expansion in history, good times for all. Guess what, long after Romney and Ryan are askeriks in history books, Clinton will be remembered with affection.
     
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    Too funny coming from you lemmings on the left.

    I have a question about us following George Bush in 2004.

    Who was he running against?

    Nuff said.
     
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    You left out a lot of stuff...

    "I didn't have sex, with that woman"

    Clinton's jizz on "that womans" blue dress

    "Depends on what the definition of IS, is"

    Failure to allow CIA to take out Osama bin-Laden either by capture or death 8 to 10 times during 1998 and 1999 which would have eliminated the funding to pull off 9-11 attacks.

    Gave U.S. missile technology to China.

    Clinton's list of commutation/pardons:

    Commutations

    Ronald Henderson Blackley
    Bert Wayne Bolan
    Jon Michael Burton - charged with heavy drug trafficking.
    Gloria Libia Camargo
    Charles F. Campbell
    David Ronald Chandler - federal death row inmate.[3]
    Lau Ching Chin
    Donald R. Clark
    Loreta De-Ann Coffman
    Derrick Curry
    Velinda Desalus
    Jacob Elbaum
    Linda Sue Evans
    Loretta Sharon Fish
    Antoinette M. Frink
    David Goldstein
    Gerard A. Greenfield
    Bob F. Griffin, former Speaker of the Missouri House of Representatives, who was serving two years on bribery charges.[4]
    Jodie E. Israel
    Kimberly Johnson
    Billy Thornton Langston Jr.
    Vicki Lopez Lukis on November 21, 2000, former Lee County, FL Commissioner who was serving a 27-month sentence for honest services mail fraud. Her conviction was vacated on February 14, 2011.
    Belinda Lynn Lumpkin
    Peter MacDonald - Navajo Chairman, serving a 14-year sentence for fraud and racketeering convictions.
    Kellie Ann Mann
    Peter Ninemire
    Hugh Ricardo Padmore
    Arnold Paul Prosperi - Florida attorney, tax fraud, managed Clinton's 1967 campaign for student-council president.[5]
    Melvin J. Reynolds - Democratic Congressman from Illinois - bank fraud and obstruction of justice
    Pedro Miguel Riveiro
    Dorothy Rivers - lead official in Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, plead guilty to theft of $1.2 million in federal grant money.
    Susan Rosenberg
    Kalmen Stern
    Cory Stringfellow
    Carlos Anibal Vignali - convicted of cocaine trafficking.
    Thomas Wilson Waddell III
    Harvey Weining
    Kim Allen Willis
    Kemba Smith

    Pardons

    Verla Jean Allen (1990 false statements to an agency of the United States).[6]
    Nicholas M. Altiere (1983 importation of cocaine)
    Bernice Ruth Altschul (1992 money laundering conspiracy)
    Joe Anderson Jr. (1988 income tax evasion)
    William Sterling Anderson (1987 defraudment of a financial institution, false statements to a financial institution, wire fraud)
    Mansour Azizkhani (1984 false statements in bank loan applications)
    Cleveland Victor Babin Jr. (1987 using the U.S. mail service to defraud)
    Chris Harmon Bagley (1989 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
    Scott Lynn Bane (unlawful distribution of marijuana)
    Thomas Cleveland Barber (issuing worthless checks)
    Peggy Ann Bargon (violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act)
    David Roscoe Blampied (possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
    William Arthur Borders Jr. (conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions, corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein, and traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery)
    Arthur David Borel (odometer rollback)
    Douglas Charles Borel (odometer rollback)
    George Thomas Brabham (making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank)
    Almon Glenn Braswell (1983 mail fraud and perjury)
    Leonard Browder (illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud)
    David Steven Brown (securities fraud and mail fraud)
    Delores Caroylene Burleson, aka Delores Cox Burleson (possession of marijuana)
    John H. Bustamante (wire fraud)
    Mary Louise Campbell (unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps)
    Eloida Candelaria (false information in registering to vote)
    Dennis Sobrevinas Capili (filing false statements in alien registration)
    Donna Denise Chambers (intent to distribute cocaine)
    Douglas Eugene Chapman (bank fraud)
    Ronald Keith Chapman (bank fraud)
    Francisco Larois Chavez (aiding and abetting illegal entry of aliens)[citation needed]
    Henry Cisneros (former HUD Secretary)
    Roger Clinton, Jr. (cocaine charges, half-brother of President Bill Clinton) [5]
    Stuart Harris Cohn (illegal sale of commodity options)
    David Marc Cooper (conspiracy to defraud the government)
    Ernest Harley Cox Jr. (defraud of federally insured savings and loan)
    John F. Cross Jr. (embezzlement)
    Rickey Lee Cunningham (intent to distribute marijuana)
    Richard Anthony De Labio (mail fraud)
    John Deutch (former Director of Central Intelligence Agency)
    Richard Douglas (false statements to a government agent)
    Edward Downe, Jr. (wire fraud, false income tax returns and securities fraud)
    Marvin Dean Dudley (false statements)
    Larry Lee Duncan
    Galen R. Elmore (convicted of cattle theft)
    Robert Clinton Fain
    Marcos Arcenio Fernandez
    Alvarez Ferrouillet
    Henry O. Flipper - guilty of "conduct unbecoming an officer" (1882)
    William Dennis Fugazy
    Lloyd Reid George
    Louis Goldstein
    Rubye Lee Gordon
    Pincus Green
    Robert Ivey Hamner
    Samuel Price Handley
    Woodie Randolph Handley
    Jay Houston Harmon
    Rick Hendrick
    John Hummingson
    David S. Herdlinger
    Debi Rae Huckleberry
    Warren C. Hultgren Jr.
    Donald Ray James
    Stanley Pruet Jobe
    Ruben H. Johnson
    Linda Jones
    James Howard Lake
    June Louise Lewis
    Salim Bonnor Lewis
    John Leighton Lodwick
    Hildebrando Lopez
    Jose Julio Luaces
    James Timothy Maness
    James Lowell Manning, (1982, aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate income tax return)
    John Robert Martin
    Frank Ayala Martinez
    Silvia Leticia Beltran Martinez
    John Francis McCormick
    Susan H. McDougal
    Howard Mechanic
    Brook K. Mitchell Sr.
    Samuel Loring Morison
    Charles Wilfred Morgan III
    Richard Anthony Nazzaro
    Charlene Ann Nosenko
    Vernon Raymond Obermeier
    Miguelina Ogalde
    David C. Owen
    Robert W. Palmer
    Kelli Anne Perhosky
    Richard H. Pezzopane
    Orville Rex Phillips
    Vinson Stewart Poling Jr.
    James G. Powell
    Norman Lyle Prouse - Former Captain for Northwest Airlines, imprisoned for flying while intoxicated.
    Willie H.H. Pruitt Jr.[7]
    Danny Martin Pursley Sr.
    Charles D. Ravenel
    William Clyde Ray
    Alfredo Luna Regalado
    Ildefonso Reynes Ricafort
    Marc Rich
    Howard Winfield Riddle
    Richard Wilson Riley Jr. (Cocaine and marijuana charges, father was Clinton's Education Secretary) [5]
    Samuel Lee Robbins
    Joel Gonzales Rodriguez
    Michael James Rogers
    Anna Louise Ross
    Dan Rostenkowski - former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office scandal.
    Gerald Glen Rust
    Jerri Ann Rust
    Bettye June Rutherford
    Gregory Lee Sands
    Al Schwimmer
    Albert A. Seretti Jr.
    Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw
    Dennis Joseph Smith
    Gerald Owen Smith
    Stephen A. Smith
    Jimmie Lee Speake
    Charles Bernard Stewart
    Marlena Francisca Stewart-Rollins
    Fife Symington III - former Republican Arizona governor
    Richard Lee Tannehill
    Nicholas C. Tenaglia
    Gary Allen Thomas
    Larry Weldon Todd
    Olga C. Trevino
    Ignatious Vamvouklis
    Patricia A. Van De Weerd
    Christopher V. Wade
    Bill Wayne Warmath
    Jack Kenneth Watson
    Donna Lynn Webb
    Donald William Wells
    Robert H. Wendt
    Jack L. Williams
    Kavin Arthur Williams
    Robert Michael Williams
    Jimmie Lee Wilson
    Thelma Louise Wingate
    Mitchell Couey Wood
    Warren Stannard Wood
    Dewey Worthey
    Rick Allen Yale
    Joseph A. Yasak
    William Stanley Yingling
    Phillip David Young
    Keith Sanders
    Darren Muci
    John Scott (not a full pardon)
    Amy Ralston Pofahl (drug money laundering, distribution and manufacturing Ecstasy)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_Bill_Clinton

    And that's just WHILE he was president...AN IMPEACHED PRESIDENT.

    Then there are his felony criminal attacks of women before and during his presidency. He was a rotten sex fiend. See next Post.
     
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    Clinton's history attacking women:

    Paid off Paula Jones almost $1 million dollars to keep her mouth shut.

    CLINTON Rapes "a cold bastard"

    And many of these internet links have disappeared from the internet. Wonder why?

    And the above doesn't mention his lying ass about dodging the draft. But this link does.

    CLINTON'S DRAFT AVOIDANCE

    Excerpt:

    I write this declaration not only for the living and future generations, but for those who fought and died for our country. If space and time permitted I would include the names of the ones I knew and fought with, and along with them I would mention my brother Bob, who was killed during World War II and is buried in Cambridge, England (at the age of 23, about the age Bill Clinton was when he was over in England protesting the war). I have agonized over whether or not to submit this statement to the American people. But, I realize that even though I served my country by being in the military for over 32 years, and having gone through the ordeal of months of combat under the worst of conditions followed by years of imprisonment by the Japanese,it is not enough. I'm writing these comments to let everyone know that I love my country more than I do my own personal security and well-being. I will go to my grave loving these United States of America and the liberty for which so many men have
    fought and died. Because of my poor physical condition this will be my final statement. I will make no further comments to any of the media regarding this issue.
    Eugene Holmes
    Colonel, U.S.A., Ret.
    September 1992


    Colonel Holmes was the Commander of the University of Arkansas ROTC unit.

    Old Rocks Between the Ears...tell us again what a prize this son-of-a-bitch, Clinton was.
     
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    ''I don't regret setting bombs, I feel we didn't do enough.'' -- W Ayers, Obama's friend, mentor and ghostwriter 9/11/2001
     
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    That assumes they are fooled.
     

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