The Senate Resolution That Will Help Obama Become President

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    "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, ensure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

    The Preamble of the United States Constitution does not grant any particular authority to the federal government and it does not prohibit any particular authority. It establishes the fact that the federal government has no authority outside of what follows the Preamble, as amended.

    "We the people" is one of the most-quoted sections of the Constitution. It was thought by the Federalists during this time that there was no need for a Bill of Rights as they thought that the Preamble spelled out the people's rights.

    The people of this nation have a right to the truth. We have a right to ask our elected officials to prove to us beyond a shadow of a doubt their candidacy before we elevate them to one of the most powerful positions in the world let alone the most powerful position in our federal government.

    A brief aside before continuing. Some people have quietly expressed their concern that Look Up Fellowship is becoming a Political Website instead of remaining a Religious/Christian Prophecy Website. I can see how anyone who's visited this site over the past few weeks might think that.

    However, I can also assure you that politics - both domestic and international - is extremely important to our discussions and studies here. We all know that a particular type of one-world government, economy, and religion needs to emerge before the Antichrist can rise to power and use that global structure to control the masses. I believe that a President Barack Obama is exactly the type of political figure to help pave the way for this to happen. In addition, we also know from Daniel 2:21 that God "He changes times and seasons, desposes kings and sets up kings" so we would be wise to view governments and their plans and actions with a Christian worldview as well.

    AN OBAMA PRESIDENCY CHALLENGED

    With that in mind, I want to revisit a topic that I've reported here that has somehow become associated with pure "conspiracy theory" despite the evidence and the facts.

    Perhaps it's because the mainstream media hasn't reported on the subject, and many people still hold to the notion that in order for a story to have any merit it needs to be presented by the talking heads on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and Fox News.

    What if the Supreme Court thought the topic had merit? Would that be enough for you to finally accept this as a potentially HUGE story? In fact, that's exactly what we have in the case of whether or not President-elect Barack Obama is eligible to hold the office of President according to the clear rules outlined by the U.S. Constitution.

    In my never-ending quest to prove "media bias" (which is probably better described as a "media blackout") here are the facts to what has the potential to become one of the biggest stories in recent memory. I sincerely hope that nothing comes of this because I'd hate to think what that could mean for our nation, but apparently the Supreme Court - not the state Supreme Court, but the national Supreme Court - thinks there is merit to all of this since they've decided to try and resolve this case before the Electors meet to officially cast their votes for Barack Obama on December 15, 2008.

    In an ironic and dramatic twist of fate, Justice Clarence Thomas - the second black man appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court and a strict Constitutionalist - could determine the fate of the first black man elected to the office of U.S. President. Adding more subtext to this story is the fact that back in August it was Obama who ignited a firestorm with conservatives when he said that had he been President at the time he would not have nominated Thomas.

    Read these news articles (in the order that this story has unfolded) to get yourself acquainted with the potential Constitutional crisis we could be facing in just a few short weeks:

    Judge Dismisses Obama Birth Certificate Lawsuit

    October Surprise?

    Supremes Asked To Halt Tuesday's Vote

    State Declares Barack Obama's Hawaii Birth Certificate Is Genuine

    Obama's Gamble: Possession Nine Tenths Of The Law

    Obama REFUSES To Show His ORIGINAL Birth Certificate. Why?

    U. S. Supreme Court Awaits Response To Philip Berg's Writ of Certiorari From Obama, DNC And Co-Defendants

    Obama Presidency Challenged By New Jersey Voter


    Time will tell whether or not anything substantial and historic comes from this. Regardless of what the Supreme Court eventually rules on the issue, there is also a grass-roots movement underway by concerned Americans across the country to try and get the Electors to do what's right.

    Many of these "underground" groups say they're only trying to see that we uphold the Constitution. They have no problem with Obama becoming President after the Electors vote for him. However, they do want the Electors to take a stand and request that Obama and the DNC come clean on this issue because of the seriousness of the charge in relation to the Constitution.

    If there's nothing to hide then why not simply produce the evidence - like every other presidential candidate before him - and finally put this issue to rest (not to mention make people like me look like lunatics for even suggesting something like this)? Each day that passes that this is ignored simply adds more fuel to the fire, and it give pundits like me a reason to question his eligibility. I mean, in my particular line of work, people I help get hired have to provide more documentation than he has!

    Plus, it's also important to note that contrary to popular belief, until those Electors meet on December 15, 2008, cast their vote, and those votes are counted on January 6, 2009, Obama is not the next President. Furthermore, Electors are not bound to cast their vote for the candidate presented as a result of "Election Day." Electors who stand up for what is right are called "faithless." Does it ever happen? In 1976, a Republican Elector in Washington voted for Ronald Reagan instead of Gerald Ford.

    What's right and for the good of our republic must trump worrying about staying in the good graces of some political party. Let's hope the nation - and the Electors - are listening.

    So, to quickly summarize, at this point, Supreme Court Justice David Souter’s Clerk informed Philip J. Berg, the lawyer who brought the case against Obama, that his petition for an injunction to stay the November 4th election was denied (obviously), but the Clerk also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of Certiorari (which requires the concurrence of 4 Justices) by December 1, 2008. At that time, Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth certificate, after which Mr. Berg will respond.

    If Obama fails to do that, it is sure to inspire the skepticism of the Justices, who are unaccustomed to being defied. They will have to decide what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his natural-born citizenship.

    “I can see a unanimous Court (en banc) decertifying the election if Obama refuses to produce his birth certificate,” says Raymond S. Kraft, an attorney and writer. “They cannot do otherwise without abandoning all credibility as guardians of the Constitution. Even the most liberal justices, however loathe they may to do this, still consider themselves guardians of the Constitution. The Court is very jealous of its power - even over presidents, even over presidents-elect.”

    If it is determined that Obama is ineligible to become President of the United States, the Electors will be duty-bound to honor the Constitution. If Obama is found ineligible, maybe the election would not be voided. The Electoral College delegates would then have only one candidate to cast their vote for - John McCain. There would be no "do-overs," "Mulligans," or re-votes. At least, that's the way I see it.

    WHAT WOULD HAPPEN NEXT?

    There is no precedent for preventing a President-elect who has been discovered to be “Constitutionally ineligible” to be President from taking office, or for what happens next. Does Biden become President - permanently or temporarily? Is Bush held over and a new election called? Do leaders of the Democratic Party get to put together a new slate of candidates or propose someone else other than Biden to be a placeholder until a new election can be held? Does whoever Obama beat out for the nomination - Hillary Clinton - now become the nominee in a new election?

    The DNC’s rules need to be carefully read. A thorough reading of the Federalist Papers, the various writings of the principal Founding Fathers, and the Debates of the Continental Congress may turn up some idea of what the Founders might have envisioned would happen in such a case or something similar.

    If this last scenario were to happen, you can be sure of riots all over this country (Martial Law too?) - generated and whipped up by the reporting from the Left, the mainstream media, and the Democrats (or, realistically, the Left - since these three are no longer separate entities, but, rather, one in the same) saying that “the Republicans are trying to steal the election, just like they did in 2004" - with the prospect, perhaps, of a new Civil War down the road, no matter which way things finally settle out.

    A SHOCKING DISCOVERY!

    Surprisingly, the Democrats in Congress have already set up a way out, by the Senate’s passage, just a few months ago, of the sense of the Senate resolution, S. Res. 511 - which Obama, very uncharacteristically, helped craft - and containing brief concurring legal opinions from eminent legal scholars (both conservative and liberal) regarding McCain’s situation, Presidential candidates being born overseas, and the issue of being a “natural born citizen.”

    In such a desperate Constitutional and political crisis, it will not matter that this sense of the Senate resolution is not binding law, you can count on the fact that it will be used. S. Res. 511, introduced on April 10, 2008 by Senator Claire McCaskill and co-sponsored by Senators Leahy, Obama, Hillary Clinton, Tom Coburn and Jim Webb, reported out of the Senate Judiciary Committee by Senator Leahy, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, without amendment and by unanimous vote of the Committee, S. Res. 511 expressed the “sense of the Senate,” confirming that Senator McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal Zone to parents who were both U.S. citizens, McCain’s father in the U.S. military and the McCain family living and on a U.S. military base, was, indeed, a “natural born” U.S. citizen and, thus, eligible to run for President and, if elected, to be President. The resolution was adopted in the Senate by unanimous consent on April 30, 2008.

    You should be able to smell a rat when you consider how nice the irascible Leahy was, and the smell of that rat got a lot stronger when I ran across commentary that Obama, usually a no show and out campaigning, was in attendance and had a hand in crafting the specific language in this resolution, in particular, McCaskill and Obama added what some Senators thought was the unnecessary phrase,

    “Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;”

    If it is ruled that Obama is ineligible and there are riots, contentious debates, and never-ending anger and confusion - national turmoil like you would not believe - look for the “just let it slide” option, relying heavily on this sense of the Senate resolution as a rationale, and allowing Obama to take office, to be proposed and to win out, only postponing, though, an eventual day of reckoning.

    Personally, I look at this Senate resolution coupled with the mainstream media aggressively ignoring the issue, and see a good reason to strongly suspect Obama is, in fact, Constitutionally prohibited from the office of the Presidency. They’ve known it all along, and are maneuvering the issue so that it seems to explode on the national consciousness, should the SCOTUS rule as such.

    Perhaps they are counting on a Nixonian response, a “good of the country” willingness to turn from the truth. If we are in fact too afraid to enforce our most basic, sacrosanct laws, we deserve what is to come, from an illegitimate President unfettered by any sense he is held in any way in check.

    Deception rules the day.

    Lord come quickly!

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    It's a conspiracy! Oh no!
     
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    Such a broad sweeping mandate of the people to elect Obama. It must be a conspiracy- to take the country back!

    Bye Bye W.
     
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    His birth certificate has been posted here.

    His mother was a US citizen.

    Right, he was born in Kenya and smuggled back in.
     
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    This is stupid. Unless you prove he was not born to an American citizen it REALLY does not matter where the hell he was born. A person born to an American citizen is a NATURAL Citizen. No matter where the birth occurred.

    As for what happens if Obama is ruled unable to be President, his Vice President assumes the position.

    From the 12th Amendment to the US Constitution.

    The United States Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net
     
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    Have fun with this. Just keep peddling away at it... It'll be so much more fun when this all caves in...
     
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    then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President


    But, if it happens before Jan. 20 then he is not the president ...... so that amendment doesn`t apply ........ right???
     

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