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Let's see... government mandated healthcare. CheckI understand more elements of socialism have been implemented but you can hardly say that US is on par with any of the Democratic Socialist countries in Europe.
I went ahead and read The Road to Serfdom finally, I grew up liberal but have made an effort to read more books in the conservative realm to gain a fairer perspective on the multitude of issues effecting our country. I put up a review on youtube with my thoughts but I wanted to ask everyone else who read it what they thought on what they think about socialism and could democratic socialism possibly work in the US?
I went ahead and read The Road to Serfdom finally, I grew up liberal but have made an effort to read more books in the conservative realm to gain a fairer perspective on the multitude of issues effecting our country. I put up a review on youtube with my thoughts but I wanted to ask everyone else who read it what they thought on what they think about socialism and could democratic socialism possibly work in the US?
I haven't read the book but technically, socialism and democratic socialism are the same thing. Socialism is its original form, pre-Lenin, not Marxism or Lenin-Marxism, means equality of ownership--everyone owns the store--the economy is equal and if all people are equal, the community is run by partisanship--people elected equally by the people to govern--but not to govern so much as play peace keeper among neighbors. The territory would have to be an island because no true government means no true military. Home militia would not stave off an invasion by people with bombs, missile launchers, chemical weapons, etc. No true government means funding for programs like medical research would end and the mortality rates would increase. Everyone could pitch in and pay, but there would not be enough money per household for such an extravagance. No true government means no true trade outside our borders and since we do not have the resources we need to make what we need and want... that sucks. I'm digressing.
Democracy means people have the right to vote--even dictators are voted in (Napoleon, Lenin, Mussolini, and Hitler were voted in in some form or fashion). Democratic socialism means people get to vote on the government...... gee, I wish we could do that...oh, we do.
The only way true socialism would work is to make every person undergo gene therapy if there were a greed gene. There will always be people who like their money (Congress is full of them and their financial backers). Nowhere in the world will there ever be a Utopian society free of greed, therefore socialism will never work anywhere. It was and is a fairy tale.
People confuse social programs with socialism all the time. Social security, Medicaid, Medicare, Disability, and Welfare programs are social programs... social in the respect that they are for the public in need. Social equals people. They have nothing to do with socialism--the similarities in the definitions are just that... similarities.
Where o' where have all of the Good Capitalists gone who can make more money under Any form of Capitalism, with a Commerce Clause and an official Mint at their disposal.Let's see... government mandated healthcare. CheckI understand more elements of socialism have been implemented but you can hardly say that US is on par with any of the Democratic Socialist countries in Europe.
Open borders. Check
Sanctuary cities. Check
Gun ownership restrictions. Check
And the list goes on...
I understand more elements of socialism have been implemented but you can hardly say that US is on par with any of the Democratic Socialist countries in Europe.
I went ahead and read The Road to Serfdom finally, I grew up liberal but have made an effort to read more books in the conservative realm to gain a fairer perspective on the multitude of issues effecting our country. I put up a review on youtube with my thoughts but I wanted to ask everyone else who read it what they thought on what they think about socialism and could democratic socialism possibly work in the US?
I haven't read the book but technically, socialism and democratic socialism are the same thing. Socialism is its original form, pre-Lenin, not Marxism or Lenin-Marxism, means equality of ownership--everyone owns the store--the economy is equal and if all people are equal, the community is run by partisanship--people elected equally by the people to govern--but not to govern so much as play peace keeper among neighbors. The territory would have to be an island because no true government means no true military. Home militia would not stave off an invasion by people with bombs, missile launchers, chemical weapons, etc. No true government means funding for programs like medical research would end and the mortality rates would increase. Everyone could pitch in and pay, but there would not be enough money per household for such an extravagance. No true government means no true trade outside our borders and since we do not have the resources we need to make what we need and want... that sucks. I'm digressing.
Democracy means people have the right to vote--even dictators are voted in (Napoleon, Lenin, Mussolini, and Hitler were voted in in some form or fashion). Democratic socialism means people get to vote on the government...... gee, I wish we could do that...oh, we do.
The only way true socialism would work is to make every person undergo gene therapy if there were a greed gene. There will always be people who like their money (Congress is full of them and their financial backers). Nowhere in the world will there ever be a Utopian society free of greed, therefore socialism will never work anywhere. It was and is a fairy tale.
People confuse social programs with socialism all the time. Social security, Medicaid, Medicare, Disability, and Welfare programs are social programs... social in the respect that they are for the public in need. Social equals people. They have nothing to do with socialism--the similarities in the definitions are just that... similarities.
Thanks for the explanation, I agree with much of what you said, can you explain why Democratic Socialism has worked so well in Scandanavia though? They always seem to churn out the happiest citizens
I went ahead and read The Road to Serfdom finally, I grew up liberal but have made an effort to read more books in the conservative realm to gain a fairer perspective on the multitude of issues effecting our country. I put up a review on youtube with my thoughts but I wanted to ask everyone else who read it what they thought on what they think about socialism and could democratic socialism possibly work in the US?
I haven't read the book but technically, socialism and democratic socialism are the same thing. Socialism is its original form, pre-Lenin, not Marxism or Lenin-Marxism, means equality of ownership--everyone owns the store--the economy is equal and if all people are equal, the community is run by partisanship--people elected equally by the people to govern--but not to govern so much as play peace keeper among neighbors. The territory would have to be an island because no true government means no true military. Home militia would not stave off an invasion by people with bombs, missile launchers, chemical weapons, etc. No true government means funding for programs like medical research would end and the mortality rates would increase. Everyone could pitch in and pay, but there would not be enough money per household for such an extravagance. No true government means no true trade outside our borders and since we do not have the resources we need to make what we need and want... that sucks. I'm digressing.
Democracy means people have the right to vote--even dictators are voted in (Napoleon, Lenin, Mussolini, and Hitler were voted in in some form or fashion). Democratic socialism means people get to vote on the government...... gee, I wish we could do that...oh, we do.
The only way true socialism would work is to make every person undergo gene therapy if there were a greed gene. There will always be people who like their money (Congress is full of them and their financial backers). Nowhere in the world will there ever be a Utopian society free of greed, therefore socialism will never work anywhere. It was and is a fairy tale.
People confuse social programs with socialism all the time. Social security, Medicaid, Medicare, Disability, and Welfare programs are social programs... social in the respect that they are for the public in need. Social equals people. They have nothing to do with socialism--the similarities in the definitions are just that... similarities.
Thanks for the explanation, I agree with much of what you said, can you explain why Democratic Socialism has worked so well in Scandanavia though? They always seem to churn out the happiest citizens
And Finland...
With its tarnished crown jewel, Nokia, devoured by Microsoft, Finland's hitherto robust economy is more dependent than ever on selling paper – mostly I was told, to Russian porn barons. Luckily, judging by a recent journey I took with my eldest son the length of the country by train, the place appears to be 99% trees. The view was a bit samey.
And Finland...
With its tarnished crown jewel, Nokia, devoured by Microsoft, Finland's hitherto robust economy is more dependent than ever on selling paper – mostly I was told, to Russian porn barons. Luckily, judging by a recent journey I took with my eldest son the length of the country by train, the place appears to be 99% trees. The view was a bit samey.
Wow, had no idea. Thanks for that.
I went ahead and read The Road to Serfdom finally, I grew up liberal but have made an effort to read more books in the conservative realm to gain a fairer perspective on the multitude of issues effecting our country. I put up a review on youtube with my thoughts but I wanted to ask everyone else who read it what they thought on what they think about socialism and could democratic socialism possibly work in the US?
I went ahead and read The Road to Serfdom finally, I grew up liberal but have made an effort to read more books in the conservative realm to gain a fairer perspective on the multitude of issues effecting our country. I put up a review on youtube with my thoughts but I wanted to ask everyone else who read it what they thought on what they think about socialism and could democratic socialism possibly work in the US?
Have you Read Friedrich Bastiates "The Law." it is a small pamphlet that was written when socialism was first making it's appearance......also, have you read Thomas Sowell...or Walter Williams or Milton Friedman....good places to start for conservative view points on culture and economics....good luck on learning the truth and learning about reality....I too was a democrat who believed in some of this left wing stuff when I was younger.....it just doesn't hold up to reality.....
