The rights of many vs the rights of one, what to do?

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  1. Grampa Murked U
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    It's just been reported that the Oslo terrorist is boasting about two other "cells" in his terrorist group. That poses a serious threat to life and liberty for many people.

    Now we come full circle in the torture debate.

    Read him his rights and risk the deaths of dozens more children or pull his fingernails to get the info and save untold deaths?
     
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    Your talking about Norway.

    They don't have the death penalty. I was watching a news show yesterday and they were saying the most this dirtbag can get under their laws in 21 years in jail.

    Wheres a waterboard when you need one??
     
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    Yes, that is very sad. That's not even a year for each life he stole.
     
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    The fact that Norway's maximum penalty for any crime is 21 years in prison is facing rising criticism in the wake of the twin attacks that killed 93 people, with many deeming the penalty too lax.

    Ever since Norwegian media named 32-year-old Anders Behring Breivik as the prime suspect, calls have been growing for the maximum penalty under the Norwegian penal code to be extended.

    If found guilty, Behring Breivik's 21 years in prison would equal a penalty of 82 days per killing.
    Norwegians protest shooter's lax penalty - World - NZ Herald News

    The man who bombed Norway's capital and gunned down Labour Party youths on an island, killing at least 93, told police he intended to target former Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland, Oslo newspaper Aftenposten said.

    Norway shooting: killer 'confirms Gro Harlem Brundtland was main target' - Telegraph
     
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    Why can't he get 21 years for each of the 80 people he killed? That's fair.
     
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    Do you believe Jack Bauer tactics work? Have you ever interrogated a prisoner? Bauer tactics and Good Cop, Bad Cop tactics don't work. Especially with a narcissist/sociopath (new term, Character Disordered) person the best course is to develop a relationship, echo his words and use active listening skills. Watch the eyes for deception and keep interviews short and isolation periods long.

    The interrogator when possible should look like the perp, appear to be from the same socio-economic class and mirror his/her language skills, even using the same words and phrases. The idea is to connect, being adversarial is the stuff of fiction.
     
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    That's all cozy and warm. I say this animal deserves to be treated like an animal if it might save other lives. And don't give me that it won't work bs. He's not some pain defying James Bond trained in the art of defying torture.
     
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    21yrs is plenty if the other prisoners take care of business the first week. 93 victims have to have at least one relative in prison.
     
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    If we were worried about untol death on women and children we would have tortured Bush a long time ago.
     
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    A serious topic on a serious issue and you respond with this childish jibberish?

    The sesame street forums are that way ---->
     

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