The Right Wing had better be right about this "Deep State" stuff.

[jc456]

Like most GOP dupes, absolutely out of your tiny brainwashed little mind. Try journalists and law enforcement someday, not garbage propaganda from greedy assholes...

Garbage propaganda from greedy - and butt hurt - assholes gave us the Mueller investigation.

You brainwashed functional morons will accept any reason except the obvious... The Russians were screwing with our election, the Trump campaign was meeting with them and it needed to be investigated- for Christ's sake you're goddamn idiots....

they were? where? you know the federal agencies still haven't looked at the DNC server right?

 

[AntonToo]

Nothing? Then what do you call 10 well documents episodes of Trump possibly Obstructing Justice...

Allegations of actions that do not meet the definition of a crime, because the required intent cannot be proven.

They absolutely meet the definition of a crime and absolutely intent can be proven.

Obstruction of Justice: Trying to corruptly influence an officer of the law to change an outcome of investigation.

When Trump pressured Comey to "let Flynn go", he was absolutely abusing his position to influence an officer of the law to change an outcome of investigation.

This is just one example of many where Trump tries to interfere with investigations and the pattern of corrupt intent is reasonably clear.

To say that there is "nothing" in the report is nonsence.

 

[jc456]

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Because Obama didn't bug Republicans in trump tower.

You're evading the fact that the FBI conducted espionage on the Trump campaign by using an anal retentive definition of "wiretap." No one is fooled.

You're evading the fact that the FBI conducted espionage on the Trump campaign by using an anal retentive definition of "wiretap." No one is fooled

The fact is court ordered surveillance was conducted on a subject that was no longer a member of the campaign, dope.

spying on a citizen. terrible and not what you should want from your government. just saying, the dossier was never verified, therefore, any warrant was illegally gotten.

Court ordered surveillance. Properly adjudicated.
Obviously then the warrant was not " illegally gotten".

based on a bogus unverified document, makes it illegal. and those who presented it in trouble.

 

[jc456]

Oh? and Barr is going to "lie" to the American people to protect a man he barely knows? Nah, you're not a leftist toad.....you just play one on USMB.

You're certainly free to obediently swallow what you're instructed to swallow.

Me, I don't believe anything that wingers on either end claim, until it is corroborated and verified to my satisfaction.

But if being a sheep is the best you can do, it's the best you can do.
.

so curious, do you believe the dossier was verified?

Not that I'm aware of.
.

so if it isn't verified, how was it used to get a FISA Warrant? See, that is the issue that needs investigating. It isn't a right or left thing, it is an american thing, the government should not be allowed to spy on citizens without proper documentation. That's all Barr's doing. right? Why would any american be opposed to that?

so if it isn't verified, how was it used to get a FISA Warrant? See, that is the issue that needs investigating. It isn't a right or left thing, it is an american thing, the government should not be allowed to spy on citizens without proper documentation. That's all Barr's doing. right? Why would any american be opposed to that?

Derp...
Obviously the judge felt there was proper documentation as it was approved. Four times.

Are you suggesting the judge was incompetent or just corrupt?

well sure the judge thought so, they said it was and lied. hmmmmmm there's that lying thing again. we know it wasn't verified because the man who wrote it said so.

 

[mudwhistle]

Strange, Barr has an impeccable reputation.

Barr's reputation now is that he is a Trump stooge. Many people that thought he will do a good job as Attorney General have been sorely disapointed with his gross unprofessionalism and political bend.

Attorney General Bill Barr Has Made A Huge Miscalculation

The guy has no credebility at this point.

Again, that is a biased opinion not a fact.

Learn the difference

lol ok, what is a FACT about how Barr is percieved?



FBI Director has implicitly repudiated Barr for using charged "spying" politico language.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...fc2ee80027a_story.html?utm_term=.97207581e2ae

Ahh so the FBI is now the Grammar Nazi?

Give me a fucking break ya stooge

This is not a "grammar" issue. This is an issue of Barr using very specific Trumpian dog-whistle words to assist Trump in spreading his conspiratorial bullshit.

Bar is not stupid, he is not ignorant and he knows exactly what he is doing when he is playing these political games.

History will not be kind to him.

So repeating the findings in the report is is Trumpian-dog-whistling?
Apparently you're hearing voices or fake dog-whistles.
The facts are the facts.
Barr stated the facts.
He didn't editorialize, or add to it the way Democrats wanted.
He simply stated the findings,......and then stated that it appears that the Obama administration spied on Trump.
Sorry if that pisses you off.

 

[AntonToo]

Barr's reputation now is that he is a Trump stooge. Many people that thought he will do a good job as Attorney General have been sorely disapointed with his gross unprofessionalism and political bend.

Attorney General Bill Barr Has Made A Huge Miscalculation

The guy has no credebility at this point.

Again, that is a biased opinion not a fact.

Learn the difference

lol ok, what is a FACT about how Barr is percieved?



FBI Director has implicitly repudiated Barr for using charged "spying" politico language.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...fc2ee80027a_story.html?utm_term=.97207581e2ae

Ahh so the FBI is now the Grammar Nazi?

Give me a fucking break ya stooge

This is not a "grammar" issue. This is an issue of Barr using very specific Trumpian dog-whistle words to assist Trump in spreading his conspiratorial bullshit.

Bar is not stupid, he is not ignorant and he knows exactly what he is doing when he is playing these political games.

History will not be kind to him.

So so repeating the findings in the report is is Trumpian-dog-whistling?
Apparently you're hearing voices or fake dog-whistles.
The facts are the facts.
Barr stated the facts.
He didn't editorialize, or add to it the way Democrats wanted.
He simply stated the findings,......and then stated that it appears that the Obama administration spied on Trump.
Sorry if that pisses you off.

???? Where the fuck do you see "government was spying on the Trump campaign" in the report?

Where the hell do you see Trump being cleared of Obstruction in the report?


Barr did not state facts. He lied and mislead the American public.

Mueller even went so far as to send him a letter of concern - a document he knew will be a historic rebuke of Barr's handling of the report.

 

[Faun]

Here is a clue - it's not true....

How do you know? Has it been investigated?

Yes, it has been. By Nunes. That resulted in the Nunes memo, followed by the declassification of the FISA warrant applications and an investigation opened by Horowitz more than a year ago.

Buuuuut..... Any.... day.... now..............

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Like most GOP dupes, absolutely out of your tiny brainwashed little mind. Try journalists and law enforcement someday, not garbage propaganda from greedy assholes...

Garbage propaganda from greedy - and butt hurt - assholes gave us the Mueller investigation.

Garbage propaganda from greedy - and butt hurt - assholes gave us the Mueller investigation.

Trump's firing of Comey gave us the Mueller investigation, dope.

 

[Faun]

Even if all of the accusations are proven beyond any doubt, the Democrats will ignore it and the mainstream media will cover it up the best it can.

Could be, although I've seen this more in the media already than I expected.

This would be historic, if true. I don't know how easily it could be avoided.
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Here is a clue - it's not true and the only thing historic going on is how our piece of shit POTUS is using these lies to whip up his gullible base and divert attention from his own well documented moral failures and law breaking.

That's not a clue. That is your BIASED assumption.

NONE OF US know the actual details, hence the investigation. You could be right but so could the biggest far right wacko on this board.

Smart people will wait on the investigation to conclude. Then theres people like YOU

No dummy, there is only one reason for investigation - Trump's need to spread politico bullshit. He has been at it for a while now, but now he finally got himself a shameles Roy Cohn for Attorney General.

Anyone with half a brain and some knowledge of the facts involved here can see that clearly.

Strange, Barr has an impeccable reputation.

So did Mueller. That didn't stop you rightwingnuts from bashing him anyway.

 

[Faun]

No dummy, there is only one reason for investigation - Trump's need to spread politico bullshit.

That didn't bother you when they appointed Mueller to investigate the politico bullshit gushing from the left.

Dumbfuck, Mueller was appointed by Republicans.

 

[AntonToo]

Could be, although I've seen this more in the media already than I expected.

This would be historic, if true. I don't know how easily it could be avoided.
.

Here is a clue - it's not true and the only thing historic going on is how our piece of shit POTUS is using these lies to whip up his gullible base and divert attention from his own well documented moral failures and law breaking.

That's not a clue. That is your BIASED assumption.

NONE OF US know the actual details, hence the investigation. You could be right but so could the biggest far right wacko on this board.

Smart people will wait on the investigation to conclude. Then theres people like YOU

No dummy, there is only one reason for investigation - Trump's need to spread politico bullshit. He has been at it for a while now, but now he finally got himself a shameles Roy Cohn for Attorney General.

Anyone with half a brain and some knowledge of the facts involved here can see that clearly.

Strange, Barr has an impeccable reputation.

So did Mueller. That didn't stop you rightwingnuts from bashing him anyway.

Lets not equalize to right's baseless bashing of Mueller and the well founded disaproval of Barr's shameless buttressing of Trump's conpiracy theories.

 

[MarcATL]

'The Right Wing had better be right about this "Deep State" stuff. '

They’re not.

There is no ‘deep state’ – the notion is a ridiculous rightwing contrivance intended to deflect from Trump’s incompetence and contempt for our democratic institutions, and another one of Trump’s moronic conspiracy theories.

And if there were a "Deep State" it's chuck-full w/partisan rightwingers.

They're talking about all the authoritarian agencies, like CIA, FBI, etc., which are all historically filled to the brim w/registered Republicans.

Far rightwingers are such dunces...it's not even funny. But it is kinda funny.

#LOLGOP #TooFunny #CLASSIC

 

[M14 Shooter]

They absolutely meet the definition of a crime and absolutely intent can be proven.

Mueller disagreed,. and offered no declaration, designation - indeed, evidence - of a corrupt intent.

"The term “corruptly” sets a demanding standard. It requires a concrete showing that a person acted with an intent to obtain an improper advantage for himself or someone else, inconsistent with official duty and the rights of others."

"Second, unlike cases in which a subject engages in obstruction of justice to cover up a crime, the evidence we obtained did not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference. Although the obstruction statutes do not require proof of such a crime, the absence of that evidence affects the analysis of the President’s intent and requires consideration of other possible motives for his conduct."

Requires the consideration of possible motives.... other than corruption.

How is it he is wrong and you are right?

 

[MarcATL]

It looks like the evidence of high level corruption is quite obvious and clear. This could be the biggest scandal in the history of the nation and we need to know what exactly happened and who was behind it. If it is allowed to be swept under the rug, it will happen again but on a bigger scale.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

This is not a "grammar" issue.

It most certainly is lol

Counter intelligence
Espionage
Tapped phones
Undercover fake people

All of that falls under the umbrella of SPYING.

Grammar & Semantics is all you got scrub

 

[The Original Tree]

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Because Obama didn't bug Republicans in trump tower.

You're evading the fact that the FBI conducted espionage on the Trump campaign by using an anal retentive definition of "wiretap." No one is fooled.

You're evading the fact that the FBI conducted espionage on the Trump campaign by using an anal retentive definition of "wiretap." No one is fooled

The fact is court ordered surveillance was conducted on a subject that was no longer a member of the campaign, dope.

spying on a citizen. terrible and not what you should want from your government. just saying, the dossier was never verified, therefore, any warrant was illegally gotten.

Court ordered surveillance. Properly adjudicated.
Obviously then the warrant was not " illegally gotten".

You cannot file a False Affidavit in an Unconstitutional Secret FISA Court designed exclusively to help pursue and prosecute terrorists and other enemies of The State and at the same time claim that "COURT ORDERED SURVEILLANCE was PROPERLY ADJUDICATED."

This Unconstitutional FISA Court is not even supposed to deal with US Citizens as they have CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTIONS from such things, like "Search and Seizure" "Right to Privacy" Due Process" "The 5th Amendment" "The right to face one's accusers or to see evidence against them" "The Right to have Exculpatory Evidence be made known to any Court or Court Official" "Probably Cause" "The Right to a Defense against any accusations" "The Presumption of Innocence" "The right to be secure in a person's possessions and effects"

But worst of All Bob Mueller knew for 18 months that Russian Collusion was a hoax. He went ahead anyways.

This was nothing more than a weaponization of our government against a US Citizen.

FISA and The Patriot Act need abolished over this.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Because Obama didn't bug Republicans in trump tower.

You're evading the fact that the FBI conducted espionage on the Trump campaign by using an anal retentive definition of "wiretap." No one is fooled.

You're evading the fact that the FBI conducted espionage on the Trump campaign by using an anal retentive definition of "wiretap." No one is fooled

The fact is court ordered surveillance was conducted on a subject that was no longer a member of the campaign, dope.

spying on a citizen. terrible and not what you should want from your government. just saying, the dossier was never verified, therefore, any warrant was illegally gotten.

Court ordered surveillance. Properly adjudicated.
Obviously then the warrant was not " illegally gotten".

based on a bogus unverified document, makes it illegal. and those who presented it in trouble.

You don't know what it was "based on", dope.
What you do know is that it was approved. Four separate times.
Approval means the supporting documentation was obviously acceptable to the judge.

 

[MarcATL]

It's just more bullshit.

The only difference now is tRump found himself someone either stupid or crazy enough to take it seriously.

Trump has been assigning nothing but partisan lackeys to office, including the courts.

It's going to be an interesting decade, for sure.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Because Obama didn't bug Republicans in trump tower.

You're evading the fact that the FBI conducted espionage on the Trump campaign by using an anal retentive definition of "wiretap." No one is fooled.

You're evading the fact that the FBI conducted espionage on the Trump campaign by using an anal retentive definition of "wiretap." No one is fooled

The fact is court ordered surveillance was conducted on a subject that was no longer a member of the campaign, dope.

spying on a citizen. terrible and not what you should want from your government. just saying, the dossier was never verified, therefore, any warrant was illegally gotten.

Court ordered surveillance. Properly adjudicated.
Obviously then the warrant was not " illegally gotten".

You cannot file a False Affidavit in an Unconstitutional Secret FISA Court designed exclusively to help pursue and prosecute terrorists and other enemies of The State and at the same time claim that "COURT ORDERED SURVEILLANCE was PROPERLY ADJUDICATED."

This Unconstitutional FISA Court is not even supposed to deal with US Citizens as they have CIVIL RIGHTS PROTECTIONS from such things, like "Search and Seizure" "Right to Privacy" Due Process" "The 5th Amendment" "The right to face one's accusers or to see evidence against them"

This was nothing more than a weaponization of our government against a US Citizen.

FISA and The Patriot Act need abolished over this.

Which "false affidavit" would that be?

The ruling judge found the application to be in order. Four separate times.

 

[mudwhistle]

Strange, Barr has an impeccable reputation.

Barr's reputation now is that he is a Trump stooge. Many people that thought he will do a good job as Attorney General have been sorely disapointed with his gross unprofessionalism and political bend.

Attorney General Bill Barr Has Made A Huge Miscalculation

The guy has no credebility at this point.

OH, so because he won't go along with Democrats who refuse to admit they lost, he's a stooge.

What the fuck is swirling in your little head?

Which Democrat refuses to admit that Trump won the election? And what the hell does it have to do with Barr's constant politico dog whistle talk?

They hoped for something in the Mueller Report and got nothing. They refuse to drop the issue for political reasons, essentially impeachment is the only thing they got.

Nothing? Then what do you call 10 documented episodes of Trump possibly Obstructing Justice contained in the report along with the urging of Congress to hold POTUS accountable?

It's FAR from nothing as the Trump administration clearly tells you by refusing to let McGahn and Mueller to testify before Congress.

10 POSSIBLE DOCUMENTED EPISODES OF OBSTRUCTION ?? ?

Note the word "possible".

Hearsay testimony is not proof of anything. NO SUCH ACTIONS TOOK PLACE! !

Ranting about Mueller in the WH is not obstruction, you pathetic asshole!!!