frigidweirdo
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No, you can't.
But you also can't defeat the Police and Armed Forces with a few guns. It's not 1776 any more.
The Vietcong didn't win Vietnam with weapons they were keeping in their cupboards. They had the USSR giving them weapons.
The world has changed and there needs to be a little bit of reality when discussing the subject.
Of course you can defeat a corrupt police or military, as long as you have weapons similar to theirs.
We have 1000 to 1 odds over them.
We can use stealth and guerrilla tactics.
An armed and determined population always wins.
The US military has always lost against a determined population, such as Vietnam or Afghanistan.
And you are also forgetting that more than half the police and military also are against gun control and insane corruption like trying to ban ARs, the most popular or all firearms, and the ones used the least in crimes.
And the ammo? What happens when the ammo runs dry? Because it will. A war of attrition and you won't last that long.
Also it'd be making lots of assumptions. Like that everyone is on board.
The govt just needs to make sure they get enough people on their side, which they would. If it's again MINORITIES, which is what we're talking here, that 1000-1 odds suddenly becomes 1-1000 or worse.
You don't need a lot of ammo for an insurrection. One bullet per assassination. And you resupply from the evil person you assassinate. It was how the French Resistance worked.
And if the government every got so corrupt as to try to confiscate 10 million ARs, then at least 100 million gun owners would be sure to retaliate.
That is not an assumption, but pretty likely fact.
And now, the reality is that the police and military would likely also have huge losses from mutiny, so the odds against the corrupt government would likely be more like 2000 to 1.
What you seem to fail to realize is that gun control to the point of trying to confiscate ARs, is not at all popular.
I wish your enthusiasm had some basis in fact. But I've witnessed too much.
Ten states have all but outlawed firearms. Where was the backlash? We really didn't do much when the government attacked those people in Waco at the Carmel church, did we? We didn't hold the government accountable when they murdered family members of the former Green Beret, Randy Weaver, at a place called Ruby Ridge.
The American people accepted having a national holiday for a married man that was pretending to be a preacher while doing ladies of another color in a hotel - and consorting with known communists of his era. The guys who had sworn to uphold their heritage by preserving the Confederate flag lost and disappeared.
Then those same guys accepted defeat when the liberals went after historical monuments, memorials and statues. Of course they were just as silent when the liberals assaulted their culture and got rid of nativity displays and the removal of the Ten Commandments (God forbid someone read them and apply them in their lives.)
The government doesn't take your weapons all at once. They attack your culture on one front and dismantle the Second Amendment incrementally while you do nothing on the other hand. They divide your forces, put extremists into positions of power and ignore the legitimate people that are vying for your support.
I'm just telling you how life really works.
I see your point, but attempting to confiscate ARs would a huge provocation. There are about 10 million of them. Are they going to arrest or shoot all the owners, because no one is going to turn them in? They are the single most popular of all firearms these days. And they do not have any characteristic that would justify them being banned. They do not have an exception rate of fire or deadly power.
So, people will break the law. Law breaking is illegal and could end up with the person in prison.
People make choices. They can CHOOSE to illegals.
As they say, criminals never obey the laws, and these people will be criminals.
Should you refuse to make laws because some people will refuse to abide by these laws?