jillian
Princess
Obama was born August 4, 1961.
I highly doubt Obama had any ties to a terrorist when he was 7.
I probably misstated it, but you know what i meant.
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Obama was born August 4, 1961.
I highly doubt Obama had any ties to a terrorist when he was 7.
yeah, what's a random act of violence here or there, really?
Obama was born August 4, 1961.
I highly doubt Obama had any ties to a terrorist when he was 7.
Yet some righties are so stupid they won't vote for a guy because his middle name is Hussein and his last name is one letter away from Osama....talk about monkey shit...
keep believing that, Jeramiah Wrighteousness convinced me.
whatever he did, he did when he was young at a time of incredible turbulance. The person I knew had a very, very responsible position, smoked cigars and drove a caddy, and was very well respected. When he died, the turnout for his memorial service was massive.
The point is that I was much more interested in how he lost his draft deferral because of his anti-war activism than I ever was in exactly what that activism consisted of.
I have seen people on this very board insinuate that regarding his name, let alone some ijits vox popped on NBC and ABC saying such. To be fair, they came across as white trash ijits, but still, they get to vote...
Hey DUmmie, this particular terrorist has never recanted, matter of fact just recently he has stated a sadness that he didn't do more, and still Obamalama hangs out with him.. he is still a terrorist.
Really? Got any proof of Obama "still hanging out with him" other than circumstantial crap that Obama launched his US Senate Campaign back 4 years ago with the guy?
thanks for clearing that up. as long as he smoked cigars and drove a caddy it's all good. 99% of the people who belonged to SDS were probably the same.
bill ayers, however, set bombs and people died. he said that he wished he had done more. i wouldn't associate with him if he did this when i was 8, 18 or 80. he said he wished he had done more on the front page of the NYT in 2001, that would be when Mr Obama was 40.
clearly, i'm benighted and Mr Obama isn't.
Now Obama has to be held, if not responsible, but guilty by assocation for something somebody said seven years ago?
Is Donald Rumsfeld responsible for Iraq because he shook hand with Sadman in 1984?
he's out of a job, isn't he? and, yes, i believe he is responsible for our being in iraq, along with others of his ilk.
From the debate (granting same-sex benefits to couples?)- Palin: "But in that tolerance also, no one would ever propose, not in a McCain-Palin administration, to do anything to prohibit, say, visitations in a hospital or contracts being signed, negotiated between parties." Transcript of Palin, Biden debate - CNN.com
From the debate -PALIN: "No, no. Of course, we know what a vice president does. And that's not only to preside over the Senate and will take that position very seriously also. I'm thankful the Constitution would allow a bit more authority given to the vice president if that vice president so chose to exert it in working with the Senate and making sure that we are supportive of the president's policies and making sure too that our president understands what our strengths are. John McCain and I have had good conversations about where I would lead with his agenda. That is energy independence in America and reform of government over all, and then working with families of children with special needs. That's near and dear to my heart also. In those arenas, John McCain has already tapped me and said, that's where I want you, I want you to lead. I said, I can't wait to get and there go to work with you." Transcript of Palin, Biden debate - CNN.com
thanks for clearing that up. as long as he smoked cigars and drove a caddy it's all good. 99% of the people who belonged to SDS were probably the same.
bill ayers, however, set bombs and people died. he said that he wished he had done more. i wouldn't associate with him if he did this when i was 8, 18 or 80. he said he wished he had done more on the front page of the NYT in 2001, that would be when Mr Obama was 40.
clearly, i'm benighted and Mr Obama isn't.
Oh, I agree he is responsible for you being in Iraq, but i was asking was he responible for Sadman because he met him 24 years ago? I say no. Sadman is responsible. That aside, some guy talking to a paper seven years ago has nothing to do with Obama..
My point is, that I don't believe in guilt by association. I'm not a right winger because my father is. I'm not a "terrorist sympathizer" because my boss was SDS when he was a kid anymore than I was entitled to kudos for the honors he had later in life.
As for Ayers... Del, you're a smart guy. You know what politics are and how it makes strange bedfellows. If any politically powerful person is required to run down the list of their "associates", there are going to be some unsavory people there. For me, the ultimate question is... will those unsavory people affect policy. I don't think Obama's will... I think McCain's undoubtedly already have.
So there ya go.
And we both know this is only being done now because the McCain camp is desperate.
i thought it was carry over from Hillary's campaign.
from what i've seen, neither candidate is going to be anything more or less than "politics as usual" in the long run. lucky us.
got any proof that he isn't? other than he is too busy? Like I believe he sat in that church for 20 years and didn't hear a word of Jeramiah Wrighteousness' bs either. yep
you not follow what i said? i was 2 when my BOSS was SDS... same as Obama was 8 when Ayers was doing HIS thing.
As someone who aspires to be the next President, his character is fair game. Nobody in that position is above scrutiny for any reason.... same thing goes for McCain. Bring it on.