The problem for Republicans are liberals who post FACTS.

How's that Democrat stronghold, Detroit doing? You want to see exactly what the end results of Democrat policies are that's where you need to look.

*Meanwhile, the ex-Confederate red states are the poorest and most miserable in the nation*

Could be due to freeing the slaves, ya think? Never in history has a faction of people done so little to better themselves than the blacks in the US in the last 150 years, even with a leg up they just can't get it done
Only the Conservatives in the deep south have been worse and they controlled everything. Even the blacks. Sucks being a right wing conservative. They are responsible for so much failure.
 
Infrastructure and science make up around 5% of the federal budget. They save our lives, make our air clean, allow us to see extrasolar planets and to spot killer asteroids. They allow us to have new roads, bridges, etc.

They got more dollar per dollar under Reagan...yet, the loserterians blame this for our debt. Lol.

When I hear progressive talk about 'Investing in infrastructure" I picture the MTA and it's $15 to $22 billion shortfall to build only half of the Second Avenue Subway and maintain their current infrastructure

That's investing
 
Republicans are welcome to post facts. Simply making statements isn't enough. On the USMB, Republicans have gotten away far too long with simply screaming liar and saying you are a lunatic. You can't fight government statistics with Breitbart. You can't imagine your way into foreign policy without understanding the country you are planning on invading. You can't fight science with the Bible or the consensus of the ignorant.

A PCTC Classic Data Don t Lie Proof That Republicans Suck at Government The PCTC Blog

One major reason is that Republicans work from a philosophical construct that treats all government spending as equal, which makes them incompetent. It’s not all equal. Some spending simply reduces the Treasury’s size, while other spending actually creates more revenue.

They also believe silly theories like “supply-side economics,” known more commonly as “trickle down,” even though it makes no sense. Even the architect of Reagan’s supply-side policies, David Stockman, admits it doesn’t work.

As of June 2014, while 6 of the ten states with the lowest unemployment rates are red, so are six of the ten with the highest rates. (Source) But unemployment rates are constantly changing, and have to be combined with other factors to make any sense. For example, is your state well-run if you have full employment, but few make enough money to live on?

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Makes a good point with Texas having such a low unemployment rate while leading in minimum wage, lack of benefits and poor education.

Funny how things that seem so common sense and so obvious to the rest of the world isn't obvious to Republicans.

Factually, explain how Americans would approve their city being run from a policy perspective more like Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore vs. Houston or Dallas? Factually explain why Americans are bolting California for Texas or New York for North Carolina?
 
How's that Democrat stronghold, Detroit doing? You want to see exactly what the end results of Democrat policies are that's where you need to look.


detriot and about 30 other dem cities= FAILURE!


The last Republican mayor of St Louis left office in 1949.

The population of St Louis reached it's zenith in 1950...850,000 residents.

Since 1950 St Louis has been in perpetual decline, losing 63% of it's 1950 high.

In the last three years, it lost another 8%, down to 317,000.

Only a progressive could believe that to be progress.
 
How's that Democrat stronghold, Detroit doing? You want to see exactly what the end results of Democrat policies are that's where you need to look.

*Meanwhile, the ex-Confederate red states are the poorest and most miserable in the nation*

Could be due to freeing the slaves, ya think? Never in history has a faction of people done so little to better themselves than the blacks in the US in the last 150 years, even with a leg up they just can't get it done

Actually it's the legacy of being raped, pillaged and looted during the Civil War. Then there's also the legacy of carpet baggers who stole everything that wasn't nailed down after the war. That kind of thing tends to have a negative effect on your economy.
 
How's that Democrat stronghold, Detroit doing? You want to see exactly what the end results of Democrat policies are that's where you need to look.


detriot and about 30 other dem cities= FAILURE!


The last Republican mayor of St Louis left office in 1949.

The population of St Louis reached it's zenith in 1950...850,000 residents.

Since 1950 St Louis has been in perpetual decline, losing 63% of it's 1950 high.

In the last three years, it lost another 8%, down to 317,000.

Only a progressive could believe that to be progress.


No, not progressives or progressive policies,, but a bunch of violent, lazy and visionless ******* done that. Sorry, but I am honest.

Would st.louis or Detroit be having its infrastructure falling apart if these cities had the tax base in order to construct new infrastructure? The answer, fuck no.
Would there be the police to stop the crimes if people could pay their taxes. Answer fuck no!
Would half of all people within our schools in these cities be ill-educated if not for the lazy population? Probably not. Most liberal white, Asian or sane cities do a hell of a lot better then white conservative trans-****** cities of the south!
It isn't liberalism that has done this. The riches places in Europe and here in America run on the same model...Just that the people are different.
 
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Infrastructure and science make up around 5% of the federal budget. They save our lives, make our air clean, allow us to see extrasolar planets and to spot killer asteroids. They allow us to have new roads, bridges, etc.

They got more dollar per dollar under Reagan...yet, the loserterians blame this for our debt. Lol.

When I hear progressive talk about 'Investing in infrastructure" I picture the MTA and it's $15 to $22 billion shortfall to build only half of the Second Avenue Subway and maintain their current infrastructure

That's investing

lol,

Yeah, everything is a fucking boondoggoo!!!! We can't even modernize our over flowing bridges here in Oregon because of idiots like you think we shouldn't spend five fucking cents on it. So not even state governments are allowed to spend on improving our own effin nation. Guess what, we the tax payers pay the government to build our bridges, roads and maintain our infrastructure in this country...Why even elect a government if they're just going to allow it all to fall apart.

China and India are coming up fast and they're doing so because they spend the money to do so. We once did the same in the 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's...No more because of people like you that scream boondogoo!! You'll build a school or a bridge in Iraq but not for America. Says a lot about who you serve and it isn't America. And of course, you'll going to say that we're in debt...Well, we spend about 3% of our entire federal budget on infrastructure, transportation and maintaining our country...How exactly can that be the cause of our problems? lol!!!!! We spent more under Reagan for Christ sakes! SO you think watching this nations infrastructure is going to improve it. lol.
 
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How's that Democrat stronghold, Detroit doing? You want to see exactly what the end results of Democrat policies are that's where you need to look.


detriot and about 30 other dem cities= FAILURE!

You think using your tax dollars to build infrastructure or hire police is the reason these places are shit holes? My answer to you is your full of shit! Why? It has nothing to do with progressivism but law breaking savage *******! They're the ones that have turned our innercities into war zones. You can go to hundreds or thousands of cities throughout asia and Europe that don't have them and find cities that work very well.
 
How's that Democrat stronghold, Detroit doing? You want to see exactly what the end results of Democrat policies are that's where you need to look.


detriot and about 30 other dem cities= FAILURE!


The last Republican mayor of St Louis left office in 1949.

The population of St Louis reached it's zenith in 1950...850,000 residents.

Since 1950 St Louis has been in perpetual decline, losing 63% of it's 1950 high.

In the last three years, it lost another 8%, down to 317,000.

Only a progressive could believe that to be progress.


No, not progressives or progressive policies,, but a bunch of violent, lazy and visionless ******* done that. Sorry, but I am honest.

Would st.louis or Detroit be having its infrastructure falling apart if these cities had the tax base in order to construct new infrastructure? The answer, fuck no.
Would there be the police to stop the crimes if people could pay their taxes. Answer fuck no!
Would half of all people within our schools in these cities be ill-educated if not for the lazy population? Probably not. Most liberal white, Asian or sane cities do a hell of a lot better then white conservative trans-****** cities of the south!
It isn't liberalism that has done this. The riches places in Europe and here in America run on the same model...Just that the people are different.


List of riots in London - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Paris riots sparked by police identity check on veiled Muslim woman World news The Guardian

2005 French riots - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

2009 French riots - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

2007 Villiers-le-Bel riots - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Cities are cities, they are all liberal and they are all cesspools of human suffering.

"When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe."


http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/thomas_jefferson.html
 
How's that Democrat stronghold, Detroit doing? You want to see exactly what the end results of Democrat policies are that's where you need to look.


detriot and about 30 other dem cities= FAILURE!


The last Republican mayor of St Louis left office in 1949.

The population of St Louis reached it's zenith in 1950...850,000 residents.

Since 1950 St Louis has been in perpetual decline, losing 63% of it's 1950 high.

In the last three years, it lost another 8%, down to 317,000.

Only a progressive could believe that to be progress.


No, not progressives or progressive policies,, but a bunch of violent, lazy and visionless ******* done that. Sorry, but I am honest.

Would st.louis or Detroit be having its infrastructure falling apart if these cities had the tax base in order to construct new infrastructure? The answer, fuck no.
Would there be the police to stop the crimes if people could pay their taxes. Answer fuck no!
Would half of all people within our schools in these cities be ill-educated if not for the lazy population? Probably not. Most liberal white, Asian or sane cities do a hell of a lot better then white conservative trans-****** cities of the south!
It isn't liberalism that has done this. The riches places in Europe and here in America run on the same model...Just that the people are different.


List of riots in London - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Paris riots sparked by police identity check on veiled Muslim woman World news The Guardian

2005 French riots - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

2009 French riots - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

2007 Villiers-le-Bel riots - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Cities are cities, they are all liberal and they are all cesspools of human suffering.

"When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe."




Well, these cities bought a bunch of savages that hate the native population of these citiese. These savages don't respect the law....It has nothing whatsoever to do with spending money on a police force or a bridge.

The policy fuck up is bringing them there in the first place.
 
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Republicans are welcome to post facts. Simply making statements isn't enough. On the USMB, Republicans have gotten away far too long with simply screaming liar and saying you are a lunatic. You can't fight government statistics with Breitbart. You can't imagine your way into foreign policy without understanding the country you are planning on invading. You can't fight science with the Bible or the consensus of the ignorant.

A PCTC Classic Data Don t Lie Proof That Republicans Suck at Government The PCTC Blog

One major reason is that Republicans work from a philosophical construct that treats all government spending as equal, which makes them incompetent. It’s not all equal. Some spending simply reduces the Treasury’s size, while other spending actually creates more revenue.

They also believe silly theories like “supply-side economics,” known more commonly as “trickle down,” even though it makes no sense. Even the architect of Reagan’s supply-side policies, David Stockman, admits it doesn’t work.

As of June 2014, while 6 of the ten states with the lowest unemployment rates are red, so are six of the ten with the highest rates. (Source) But unemployment rates are constantly changing, and have to be combined with other factors to make any sense. For example, is your state well-run if you have full employment, but few make enough money to live on?

------------------

Makes a good point with Texas having such a low unemployment rate while leading in minimum wage, lack of benefits and poor education.

Funny how things that seem so common sense and so obvious to the rest of the world isn't obvious to Republicans.
The preceding Meaningless Partisan Straw-Man Rock-Throwing Hissy-Fit was brought to you by the Democratic National Committee.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled in-fighting.
 
Infrastructure and science make up around 5% of the federal budget. They save our lives, make our air clean, allow us to see extrasolar planets and to spot killer asteroids. They allow us to have new roads, bridges, etc.

They got more dollar per dollar under Reagan...yet, the loserterians blame this for our debt. Lol.

When I hear progressive talk about 'Investing in infrastructure" I picture the MTA and it's $15 to $22 billion shortfall to build only half of the Second Avenue Subway and maintain their current infrastructure

That's investing

lol,

Yeah, everything is a fucking boondoggoo!!!! We can't even modernize our over flowing bridges here in Oregon because of idiots like you think we shouldn't spend five fucking cents on it. So not even state governments are allowed to spend on improving our own effin nation. Guess what, we the tax payers pay the government to build our bridges, roads and maintain our infrastructure in this country...Why even elect a government if they're just going to allow it all to fall apart.

China and India are coming up fast and they're doing so because they spend the money to do so. We once did the same in the 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's...No more because of people like you that scream boondogoo!! You'll build a school or a bridge in Iraq but not for America. Says a lot about who you serve and it isn't America. And of course, you'll going to say that we're in debt...Well, we spend about 3% of our entire federal budget on infrastructure, transportation and maintaining our country...How exactly can that be the cause of our problems? lol!!!!! We spent more under Reagan for Christ sakes! SO you think watching this nations infrastructure is going to improve it. lol.

You fucking morons trust government because, well, you're a fucking moron
 
Infrastructure and science make up around 5% of the federal budget. They save our lives, make our air clean, allow us to see extrasolar planets and to spot killer asteroids. They allow us to have new roads, bridges, etc.

They got more dollar per dollar under Reagan...yet, the loserterians blame this for our debt. Lol.

When I hear progressive talk about 'Investing in infrastructure" I picture the MTA and it's $15 to $22 billion shortfall to build only half of the Second Avenue Subway and maintain their current infrastructure

That's investing

lol,

Yeah, everything is a fucking boondoggoo!!!! We can't even modernize our over flowing bridges here in Oregon because of idiots like you think we shouldn't spend five fucking cents on it. So not even state governments are allowed to spend on improving our own effin nation. Guess what, we the tax payers pay the government to build our bridges, roads and maintain our infrastructure in this country...Why even elect a government if they're just going to allow it all to fall apart.

China and India are coming up fast and they're doing so because they spend the money to do so. We once did the same in the 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's...No more because of people like you that scream boondogoo!! You'll build a school or a bridge in Iraq but not for America. Says a lot about who you serve and it isn't America. And of course, you'll going to say that we're in debt...Well, we spend about 3% of our entire federal budget on infrastructure, transportation and maintaining our country...How exactly can that be the cause of our problems? lol!!!!! We spent more under Reagan for Christ sakes! SO you think watching this nations infrastructure is going to improve it. lol.

You fucking morons trust government because, well, you're a fucking moron
Of course they trust government...

sheeple-1b.jpg
 
Here is a fact

US-Budget-Total-spending-Breakdown.jpg


The Millitary 18%, Medicare 24% and SSI and Unemployment 34%! Now those are the causes our fiscal problems.

Science is 1%, education 2%, Transportation(infrastructure) 2%, energy 1%....I don't know about you but I think this 6% is more important then the above cluster fuck. Not to say we don't need ssi, medicare and the military but something is wrong with them.


And interest on our debt @ 7% doesn't bother you?
And if interest rates go up?
Then what?



Why not focus on the 76% that is the real growing problem and leave our infrastructure, science programs and things that maintain our country alone? Would make a lot more sense.

Reform SSI, Medicare and unemployment as they're sucking us dry. This is how we handle the 7% and come out as a great power after we do it. We weaken our economy if we attack infrastructure, science and r&d as they keep our economy strong to absorb a great amount of this debt.

We pay over 100 billion a year in taxes that are supposed to be earmarked for infrastructure.

Why don't you tell me where all that money is going before you ask for more?
 
We pay over 100 billion a year in taxes that are supposed to be earmarked for infrastructure.

Forbes;
There’s a real irony in raiding general revenues to keep the trust fund solvent — the gas tax’s problems started when Congress raided the trust fund to keep the government solvent. In 1990 Congress approved an increase in the gas tax but allotted only half of the new revenue to building projects. The other half was dedicated to deficit reduction – which then, as now, was all the rage. In 1993 Congress approved another gas tax hike and again devoted some of the revenue to deficit reduction.

In 1997 Congress redirected all gas tax revenues to the Highway Trust Fund, and the levy returned to its former role as a user fee. But the damage was done.


Hey skull, can't you use google? Or are you really not interested in learning. You should read that entire article. Learn something.
 
Infrastructure and science make up around 5% of the federal budget. They save our lives, make our air clean, allow us to see extrasolar planets and to spot killer asteroids. They allow us to have new roads, bridges, etc.

They got more dollar per dollar under Reagan...yet, the loserterians blame this for our debt. Lol.

When I hear progressive talk about 'Investing in infrastructure" I picture the MTA and it's $15 to $22 billion shortfall to build only half of the Second Avenue Subway and maintain their current infrastructure

That's investing

lol,

Yeah, everything is a fucking boondoggoo!!!! We can't even modernize our over flowing bridges here in Oregon because of idiots like you think we shouldn't spend five fucking cents on it. So not even state governments are allowed to spend on improving our own effin nation. Guess what, we the tax payers pay the government to build our bridges, roads and maintain our infrastructure in this country...Why even elect a government if they're just going to allow it all to fall apart.

China and India are coming up fast and they're doing so because they spend the money to do so. We once did the same in the 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's...No more because of people like you that scream boondogoo!! You'll build a school or a bridge in Iraq but not for America. Says a lot about who you serve and it isn't America. And of course, you'll going to say that we're in debt...Well, we spend about 3% of our entire federal budget on infrastructure, transportation and maintaining our country...How exactly can that be the cause of our problems? lol!!!!! We spent more under Reagan for Christ sakes! SO you think watching this nations infrastructure is going to improve it. lol.

You fucking morons trust government because, well, you're a fucking moron
Of course they trust government...

sheeple-1b.jpg

And you trust the corporations to give a damn about human rights and what is best for this nation. You do so even as they outsource and fuck our own nation over.

Guess, what it is either government that we elect or a corporation that will maintain this country. Either way, you'll be paying either a payment or taxes to maintain things. Guess who will charge 10 times more and won't let you drive on their roads if you can't afford it.

PERSONALLY, I'd rather my government that I elect over see the construction and building of such things. At least I can have a say in it.
 
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How's that Democrat stronghold, Detroit doing? You want to see exactly what the end results of Democrat policies are that's where you need to look.

*Meanwhile, the ex-Confederate red states are the poorest and most miserable in the nation*

Could be due to freeing the slaves, ya think? Never in history has a faction of people done so little to better themselves than the blacks in the US in the last 150 years, even with a leg up they just can't get it done

You just might be right. Everything went down hill for the south the moment the slaves were freed. Why should white southerners be expected to work themselves?

The south is miserable because if they want blacks tending the crops, they have to pay them now. Who can afford that?

Damn you, federal government overreach! This is all LiberalLincoln's fault.






(SassyLass is an ass :wink:)

You've said twice that people in the south are miserable. All the southerners I've met seem to be very happy.

It's the new Yorkers I've met who are miserable and mean.
 

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