The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

[pinqy]

The monthly unemployment rate for April 2016 was 5.0%. This is Obama's 88th month of office. This drops the average unemployment rate for the time he has been in office from the average 7.81% in December 2016 at 84 months to the average of 7.68% in April 2016 at 88 months.

Here is the new standings for the Presidents with Obama's revised numbers:

The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

Gerald Ford: 7.77%

Average Unemployment Rates for US Presidents since after World War II:

01. Lyndon Johnson: 4.19%
02. Harry Truman: 4.26%
03. Dwight Eisenhower: 4.89%
04. Richard Nixon: 5.00%
05. Bill Clinton: 5.20%
06. George W. Bush: 5.27%
07. John Kennedy: 5.98%
08. George H.W. Bush: 6.30%
09. Jimmy Carter: 6.54%
10. Ronald Reagan: 7.54%
11. Barack Obama: 7.68%
12. Gerald Ford: 7.77%

676.2/88 = 7.6840 = 7.68%

There are 8 months left in Obama's Presidency.

The labor force participation rate went down in April to 62.8%, from the 63% it was at in March..

Where do those numbers come from?

U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics The Bureau Of Labor Statistics

Go to data tools and then "labor force statistics".
From the list select "Civilian Labor Force Participation Rate" and "Unemployment Rate".
Change 2006 to 1948 in order to get every monthly labor force participation rate and unemployment rate from January 1948 to April 2016.
The average unemployment rate is found by adding up all the monthly unemployment rate numbers while x President was in office and then dividing that number by the number of months x President was in office.

What does "Civilian Labor Force Participation Rate" mean? Does that exclude government workers or military?

It excludes those under age 16, this in the military, those in prison, and those in an institution such as nursing home or mental institute.

 

[Camp]

The monthly unemployment rate for April 2016 was 5.0%. This is Obama's 88th month of office. This drops the average unemployment rate for the time he has been in office from the average 7.81% in December 2016 at 84 months to the average of 7.68% in April 2016 at 88 months.

Here is the new standings for the Presidents with Obama's revised numbers:

The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

Gerald Ford: 7.77%

Average Unemployment Rates for US Presidents since after World War II:

01. Lyndon Johnson: 4.19%
02. Harry Truman: 4.26%
03. Dwight Eisenhower: 4.89%
04. Richard Nixon: 5.00%
05. Bill Clinton: 5.20%
06. George W. Bush: 5.27%
07. John Kennedy: 5.98%
08. George H.W. Bush: 6.30%
09. Jimmy Carter: 6.54%
10. Ronald Reagan: 7.54%
11. Barack Obama: 7.68%
12. Gerald Ford: 7.77%

676.2/88 = 7.6840 = 7.68%

There are 8 months left in Obama's Presidency.

The labor force participation rate went down in April to 62.8%, from the 63% it was at in March..

Where do those numbers come from?

U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics The Bureau Of Labor Statistics

Go to data tools and then "labor force statistics".
From the list select "Civilian Labor Force Participation Rate" and "Unemployment Rate".
Change 2006 to 1948 in order to get every monthly labor force participation rate and unemployment rate from January 1948 to April 2016.
The average unemployment rate is found by adding up all the monthly unemployment rate numbers while x President was in office and then dividing that number by the number of months x President was in office.

What does "Civilian Labor Force Participation Rate" mean? Does that exclude government workers or military?

It excludes those under age 16, this in the military, those in prison, and those in an institution such as nursing home or mental institute.

So, persons in hight school over 16 and colleges are being counted as "unemployed" under that particular method of calculating unemployment rates.

 

[edthecynic]

The monthly unemployment rate for April 2016 was 5.0%. This is Obama's 88th month of office. This drops the average unemployment rate for the time he has been in office from the average 7.81% in December 2016 at 84 months to the average of 7.68% in April 2016 at 88 months.

Here is the new standings for the Presidents with Obama's revised numbers:

The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

Gerald Ford: 7.77%

Average Unemployment Rates for US Presidents since after World War II:

01. Lyndon Johnson: 4.19%
02. Harry Truman: 4.26%
03. Dwight Eisenhower: 4.89%
04. Richard Nixon: 5.00%
05. Bill Clinton: 5.20%
06. George W. Bush: 5.27%
07. John Kennedy: 5.98%
08. George H.W. Bush: 6.30%
09. Jimmy Carter: 6.54%
10. Ronald Reagan: 7.54%
11. Barack Obama: 7.68%
12. Gerald Ford: 7.77%

676.2/88 = 7.6840 = 7.68%

There are 8 months left in Obama's Presidency.

The labor force participation rate went down in April to 62.8%, from the 63% it was at in March..

Where do those numbers come from?

U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics The Bureau Of Labor Statistics

Go to data tools and then "labor force statistics".
From the list select "Civilian Labor Force Participation Rate" and "Unemployment Rate".
Change 2006 to 1948 in order to get every monthly labor force participation rate and unemployment rate from January 1948 to April 2016.
The average unemployment rate is found by adding up all the monthly unemployment rate numbers while x President was in office and then dividing that number by the number of months x President was in office.

What does "Civilian Labor Force Participation Rate" mean? Does that exclude government workers or military?

It excludes those under age 16, this in the military, those in prison, and those in an institution such as nursing home or mental institute.

So, persons in hight school over 16 and colleges are being counted as "unemployed" under that particular method of calculating unemployment rates.

No, they are counted as part of the 94 million "not in the labor force."

 

[pinqy]

The monthly unemployment rate for April 2016 was 5.0%. This is Obama's 88th month of office. This drops the average unemployment rate for the time he has been in office from the average 7.81% in December 2016 at 84 months to the average of 7.68% in April 2016 at 88 months.

Here is the new standings for the Presidents with Obama's revised numbers:

The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

Gerald Ford: 7.77%

Average Unemployment Rates for US Presidents since after World War II:

01. Lyndon Johnson: 4.19%
02. Harry Truman: 4.26%
03. Dwight Eisenhower: 4.89%
04. Richard Nixon: 5.00%
05. Bill Clinton: 5.20%
06. George W. Bush: 5.27%
07. John Kennedy: 5.98%
08. George H.W. Bush: 6.30%
09. Jimmy Carter: 6.54%
10. Ronald Reagan: 7.54%
11. Barack Obama: 7.68%
12. Gerald Ford: 7.77%

676.2/88 = 7.6840 = 7.68%

There are 8 months left in Obama's Presidency.

The labor force participation rate went down in April to 62.8%, from the 63% it was at in March..

Where do those numbers come from?

U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics The Bureau Of Labor Statistics

Go to data tools and then "labor force statistics".
From the list select "Civilian Labor Force Participation Rate" and "Unemployment Rate".
Change 2006 to 1948 in order to get every monthly labor force participation rate and unemployment rate from January 1948 to April 2016.
The average unemployment rate is found by adding up all the monthly unemployment rate numbers while x President was in office and then dividing that number by the number of months x President was in office.

What does "Civilian Labor Force Participation Rate" mean? Does that exclude government workers or military?

It excludes those under age 16, this in the military, those in prison, and those in an institution such as nursing home or mental institute.

So, persons in hight school over 16 and colleges are being counted as "unemployed" under that particular method of calculating unemployment rates.

It depends. If they're working they're classified as employed, if they're not working but looking for work (a d could start immediately), they're unemployed, and if they're not looking or only looking for a job after graduation, then they're Not in the Labor Force.

Categories like "student," or "retired" don't mean anything... The classifications are based solely on activity

 

[pinqy]

Where do those numbers come from?

U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics The Bureau Of Labor Statistics

Go to data tools and then "labor force statistics".
From the list select "Civilian Labor Force Participation Rate" and "Unemployment Rate".
Change 2006 to 1948 in order to get every monthly labor force participation rate and unemployment rate from January 1948 to April 2016.
The average unemployment rate is found by adding up all the monthly unemployment rate numbers while x President was in office and then dividing that number by the number of months x President was in office.

What does "Civilian Labor Force Participation Rate" mean? Does that exclude government workers or military?

It excludes those under age 16, this in the military, those in prison, and those in an institution such as nursing home or mental institute.

So, persons in hight school over 16 and colleges are being counted as "unemployed" under that particular method of calculating unemployment rates.

No, they are counted as part of the 94 million "not in the labor force."

Only if they fit the definition.

 

[TooTall]

Also 30 hrs. a week is considered full time nowadays not the previous 40 hrs. a week...

In other words, your comparison is basically crap..

BLS always considered 35 hours full time and STILL does now

IOW, you LIE like a typical CON$ervative!

The ACA, the law, considers 30 hours a week to be full time.

The ACA does NOT calculate the UE rate, BLS does that and BLS has not changed it from 35 hours.
Lumpy's lie is still a lie no matter how ignorant you pretend to be.

Wrong!

"The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) uses data from the National Compensation Survey (NCS) to calculate access rates for a variety of employee benefits. Estimates are produced across a broad range of job characteristics, including industry, occupation, and establishment size. Statistics are also reported by full-time and part-time status.

The full-time or part-time status published by the NCS is based on whether the responding establishment reports a job as full time or part time,rather than on a definition that specifies weekly work hours."

That's the National Compensation Survey (NCS), which produces the Employment Compensation Index, and data on wages and benefits and total compensation.

But data on full time and part time workers comes from the Current Population Survey (CPS) which is the source of the unemployment rate and labor force statistics.

No one cites the NCS for data on number of full or part time wirkers

 

[TooTall]

BLS always considered 35 hours full time and STILL does now

IOW, you LIE like a typical CON$ervative!

The ACA, the law, considers 30 hours a week to be full time.

The ACA does NOT calculate the UE rate, BLS does that and BLS has not changed it from 35 hours.
Lumpy's lie is still a lie no matter how ignorant you pretend to be.

Wrong!

"The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) uses data from the National Compensation Survey (NCS) to calculate access rates for a variety of employee benefits. Estimates are produced across a broad range of job characteristics, including industry, occupation, and establishment size. Statistics are also reported by full-time and part-time status.

The full-time or part-time status published by the NCS is based on whether the responding establishment reports a job as full time or part time,rather than on a definition that specifies weekly work hours."

That's the National Compensation Survey (NCS), which produces the Employment Compensation Index, and data on wages and benefits and total compensation.

But data on full time and part time workers comes from the Current Population Survey (CPS) which is the source of the unemployment rate and labor force statistics.

No one cites the NCS for data on number of full or part time wirkers

I believe you have that backwards.

From the CPS:

What are the basic concepts of employment and unemployment?

The basic concepts involved in identifying the employed and unemployed are quite simple:

People with jobs are employed.

People who are jobless, looking for a job, and available for work are unemployed.

The labor force is made up of the employed and the unemployed.

People who are neither employed nor unemployed are not in the labor force.

From the NCS:

The full-time or part-time status published by the NCS is based on whether the responding establishment reports a job as full time or part time,rather than on a definition that specifies weekly work hours."

 

[easyt65]

The very 1st post after the initial, from a Democrat:

"Who cares?"

That's all you need to know about libs / Obama supporters....'nuff said.

 

[pinqy]

The ACA, the law, considers 30 hours a week to be full time.

The ACA does NOT calculate the UE rate, BLS does that and BLS has not changed it from 35 hours.
Lumpy's lie is still a lie no matter how ignorant you pretend to be.

Wrong!

"The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) uses data from the National Compensation Survey (NCS) to calculate access rates for a variety of employee benefits. Estimates are produced across a broad range of job characteristics, including industry, occupation, and establishment size. Statistics are also reported by full-time and part-time status.

The full-time or part-time status published by the NCS is based on whether the responding establishment reports a job as full time or part time,rather than on a definition that specifies weekly work hours."

That's the National Compensation Survey (NCS), which produces the Employment Compensation Index, and data on wages and benefits and total compensation.

But data on full time and part time workers comes from the Current Population Survey (CPS) which is the source of the unemployment rate and labor force statistics.

No one cites the NCS for data on number of full or part time wirkers

I believe you have that backwards.

From the CPS:

What are the basic concepts of employment and unemployment?

The basic concepts involved in identifying the employed and unemployed are quite simple:

People with jobs are employed.

People who are jobless, looking for a job, and available for work are unemployed.

The labor force is made up of the employed and the unemployed.

People who are neither employed nor unemployed are not in the labor force.

From the NCS:

The full-time or part-time status published by the NCS is based on whether the responding establishment reports a job as full time or part time,rather than on a definition that specifies weekly work hours."

How do you think that means I have it backwards??? From the BLS Glossary
Full-time employees (National Compensation Survey)
Employees are classified as full time or part time as defined by their employer.

Full-time workers (Current Population Survey and American Time Use Survey)
Persons who work 35 hours or more per week.
The CPS is the survey used for the official labor force statistics

 

[Faun]

Here we go again .... just as we do every month following the first Friday of the month....

After 85 months in office...

Reagan ..... 7.78
Obama ...... 7.75

Making Reagan the worst after serving 85 months in office.

It's actually 9.7 in you include the underemployed...

Also 30 hrs. a week is considered full time nowadays not the previous 40 hrs. a week...

In other words, your comparison is basically crap..

That would be based on the U-6 rate; which of course, was higher than the U-3 rate under Reagan as well.

Still, no matter how you shake it, the president with the highest average unemployment rate according to BLS statistics remains....

Ronald Reagan

 

[Faun]

Also 30 hrs. a week is considered full time nowadays not the previous 40 hrs. a week...

In other words, your comparison is basically crap..

BLS always considered 35 hours full time and STILL does now

IOW, you LIE like a typical CON$ervative!

The ACA, the law, considers 30 hours a week to be full time.

The ACA does NOT calculate the UE rate, BLS does that and BLS has not changed it from 35 hours.
Lumpy's lie is still a lie no matter how ignorant you pretend to be.

Not a lie, but the ACA is a bit misleading, like damned nearly everything that Obama has done.

"If an employee works an average of 30 hours a week or 130 hours a month or more it is considered full-time and large employers must provide health insurance. To be considered part-time, the employee must work more than 120 days in a year.

Many employers will keep the employee at 27 hours a week as a "safe harbor". This avoids the employee accidentally going over due to overtime."

Is Less Than 30 Hours Part-Time Under ObamaCare? - Obamacare Facts

You know we're talking about BLS statistics, not the ACA, right?

 

[Faun]

The monthly unemployment rate for April 2016 was 5.0%. This is Obama's 88th month of office. This drops the average unemployment rate for the time he has been in office from the average 7.81% in December 2016 at 84 months to the average of 7.68% in April 2016 at 88 months.

Here is the new standings for the Presidents with Obama's revised numbers:

The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

Gerald Ford: 7.77%

Average Unemployment Rates for US Presidents since after World War II:

01. Lyndon Johnson: 4.19%
02. Harry Truman: 4.26%
03. Dwight Eisenhower: 4.89%
04. Richard Nixon: 5.00%
05. Bill Clinton: 5.20%
06. George W. Bush: 5.27%
07. John Kennedy: 5.98%
08. George H.W. Bush: 6.30%
09. Jimmy Carter: 6.54%
10. Ronald Reagan: 7.54%
11. Barack Obama: 7.68%
12. Gerald Ford: 7.77%

676.2/88 = 7.6840 = 7.68%

There are 8 months left in Obama's Presidency.

The labor force participation rate went down in April to 62.8%, from the 63% it was at in March..

I like how you give Reagan the benefit if factoring in additional months, but comparing apples to apples ....at this same point in Reagan's presidency, the average unemployment rate was higher when Reagan was president.

 

[TooTall]

The ACA does NOT calculate the UE rate, BLS does that and BLS has not changed it from 35 hours.
Lumpy's lie is still a lie no matter how ignorant you pretend to be.

Wrong!

"The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) uses data from the National Compensation Survey (NCS) to calculate access rates for a variety of employee benefits. Estimates are produced across a broad range of job characteristics, including industry, occupation, and establishment size. Statistics are also reported by full-time and part-time status.

The full-time or part-time status published by the NCS is based on whether the responding establishment reports a job as full time or part time,rather than on a definition that specifies weekly work hours."

That's the National Compensation Survey (NCS), which produces the Employment Compensation Index, and data on wages and benefits and total compensation.

But data on full time and part time workers comes from the Current Population Survey (CPS) which is the source of the unemployment rate and labor force statistics.

No one cites the NCS for data on number of full or part time wirkers

I believe you have that backwards.

From the CPS:

What are the basic concepts of employment and unemployment?

The basic concepts involved in identifying the employed and unemployed are quite simple:

People with jobs are employed.

People who are jobless, looking for a job, and available for work are unemployed.

The labor force is made up of the employed and the unemployed.

People who are neither employed nor unemployed are not in the labor force.

From the NCS:

The full-time or part-time status published by the NCS is based on whether the responding establishment reports a job as full time or part time,rather than on a definition that specifies weekly work hours."

How do you think that means I have it backwards??? From the BLS Glossary
Full-time employees (National Compensation Survey)
Employees are classified as full time or part time as defined by their employer.

Full-time workers (Current Population Survey and American Time Use Survey)
Persons who work 35 hours or more per week.
The CPS is the survey used for the official labor force statistics

I did not see where the CPS survey made a determination on full or part time, only on employed or unemployed.

 

[pinqy]

Here we go again .... just as we do every month following the first Friday of the month....

After 85 months in office...

Reagan ..... 7.78
Obama ...... 7.75

Making Reagan the worst after serving 85 months in office.

It's actually 9.7 in you include the underemployed...

Also 30 hrs. a week is considered full time nowadays not the previous 40 hrs. a week...

In other words, your comparison is basically crap..

That would be based on the U-6 rate; which of course, was higher than the U-3 rate under Reagan as well.

Still, no matter how you shake it, the president with the highest average unemployment rate according to BLS statistics remains....

Ronald Reagan

The U-6 before 1994 was unemployed looking for full time work plus half the unemployed looking for part time plus half those working part time for economic reasons divided by the labor force minus half the part time labor force.

Since marginally attached was not a classification before 1994, and because both part time for economic reasons were heavily redefined in 1994, we can't even guess what we now call the U-6 would have been.

 

[pinqy]

Wrong!

"The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) uses data from the National Compensation Survey (NCS) to calculate access rates for a variety of employee benefits. Estimates are produced across a broad range of job characteristics, including industry, occupation, and establishment size. Statistics are also reported by full-time and part-time status.

The full-time or part-time status published by the NCS is based on whether the responding establishment reports a job as full time or part time,rather than on a definition that specifies weekly work hours."

That's the National Compensation Survey (NCS), which produces the Employment Compensation Index, and data on wages and benefits and total compensation.

But data on full time and part time workers comes from the Current Population Survey (CPS) which is the source of the unemployment rate and labor force statistics.

No one cites the NCS for data on number of full or part time wirkers

I believe you have that backwards.

From the CPS:

What are the basic concepts of employment and unemployment?

The basic concepts involved in identifying the employed and unemployed are quite simple:

People with jobs are employed.

People who are jobless, looking for a job, and available for work are unemployed.

The labor force is made up of the employed and the unemployed.

People who are neither employed nor unemployed are not in the labor force.

From the NCS:

The full-time or part-time status published by the NCS is based on whether the responding establishment reports a job as full time or part time,rather than on a definition that specifies weekly work hours."

How do you think that means I have it backwards??? From the BLS Glossary
Full-time employees (National Compensation Survey)
Employees are classified as full time or part time as defined by their employer.

Full-time workers (Current Population Survey and American Time Use Survey)
Persons who work 35 hours or more per week.
The CPS is the survey used for the official labor force statistics

I did not see where the CPS survey made a determination on full or part time, only on employed or unemployed.

Table A-9. Selected employment indicators
The selected characteristics are age, sex, full or part time status, multiple job holders, and self employed.

 

[TooTall]

That's the National Compensation Survey (NCS), which produces the Employment Compensation Index, and data on wages and benefits and total compensation.

But data on full time and part time workers comes from the Current Population Survey (CPS) which is the source of the unemployment rate and labor force statistics.

No one cites the NCS for data on number of full or part time wirkers

I believe you have that backwards.

From the CPS:

What are the basic concepts of employment and unemployment?

The basic concepts involved in identifying the employed and unemployed are quite simple:

People with jobs are employed.

People who are jobless, looking for a job, and available for work are unemployed.

The labor force is made up of the employed and the unemployed.

People who are neither employed nor unemployed are not in the labor force.

From the NCS:

The full-time or part-time status published by the NCS is based on whether the responding establishment reports a job as full time or part time,rather than on a definition that specifies weekly work hours."

How do you think that means I have it backwards??? From the BLS Glossary
Full-time employees (National Compensation Survey)
Employees are classified as full time or part time as defined by their employer.

Full-time workers (Current Population Survey and American Time Use Survey)
Persons who work 35 hours or more per week.
The CPS is the survey used for the official labor force statistics

I did not see where the CPS survey made a determination on full or part time, only on employed or unemployed.

Table A-9. Selected employment indicators
The selected characteristics are age, sex, full or part time status, multiple job holders, and self employed.

That is from the BLS.

 

[pinqy]

I believe you have that backwards.

From the CPS:

What are the basic concepts of employment and unemployment?

The basic concepts involved in identifying the employed and unemployed are quite simple:

People with jobs are employed.

People who are jobless, looking for a job, and available for work are unemployed.

The labor force is made up of the employed and the unemployed.

People who are neither employed nor unemployed are not in the labor force.

From the NCS:

The full-time or part-time status published by the NCS is based on whether the responding establishment reports a job as full time or part time,rather than on a definition that specifies weekly work hours."

How do you think that means I have it backwards??? From the BLS Glossary
Full-time employees (National Compensation Survey)
Employees are classified as full time or part time as defined by their employer.

Full-time workers (Current Population Survey and American Time Use Survey)
Persons who work 35 hours or more per week.
The CPS is the survey used for the official labor force statistics

I did not see where the CPS survey made a determination on full or part time, only on employed or unemployed.

Table A-9. Selected employment indicators
The selected characteristics are age, sex, full or part time status, multiple job holders, and self employed.

That is from the BLS.

Right. BLS publishes the CPS and the NCS and many other surveys.

 

[U2Edge]

I'm not at all sure I'd trust the system's numbers on unemployment, especially these days. But if one is a "conservative" railing against the govt all day everyday, wouldn't you feel just a tad "liberal" citing the "data" the system hands you?

The entire economic system and political system (which is really the same beast) has been rerigged over the past 5-6 decades under the reign of "both" parties. All else is mass distraction, divide and conquer, diversion.

I'm a big government Republican!

 

[U2Edge]

Here we go again .... just as we do every month following the first Friday of the month....

After 85 months in office...

Reagan ..... 7.78
Obama ...... 7.75

Making Reagan the worst after serving 85 months in office.

It's actually 9.7 in you include the underemployed...

Also 30 hrs. a week is considered full time nowadays not the previous 40 hrs. a week...

In other words, your comparison is basically crap..

That would be based on the U-6 rate; which of course, was higher than the U-3 rate under Reagan as well.

Still, no matter how you shake it, the president with the highest average unemployment rate according to BLS statistics remains....

Ronald Reagan

It was Obama, it is now Gerald Ford. Gerald Fords figure is 7.77% for the months he was President. That is now the highest average given that Obama's has dropped to 7.68%. Reagan is at 7.54% for his time in office.

 

[U2Edge]

The monthly unemployment rate for April 2016 was 5.0%. This is Obama's 88th month of office. This drops the average unemployment rate for the time he has been in office from the average 7.81% in December 2016 at 84 months to the average of 7.68% in April 2016 at 88 months.

Here is the new standings for the Presidents with Obama's revised numbers:

The President with the worst average unemployment rate since World War II is?

Gerald Ford: 7.77%

Average Unemployment Rates for US Presidents since after World War II:

01. Lyndon Johnson: 4.19%
02. Harry Truman: 4.26%
03. Dwight Eisenhower: 4.89%
04. Richard Nixon: 5.00%
05. Bill Clinton: 5.20%
06. George W. Bush: 5.27%
07. John Kennedy: 5.98%
08. George H.W. Bush: 6.30%
09. Jimmy Carter: 6.54%
10. Ronald Reagan: 7.54%
11. Barack Obama: 7.68%
12. Gerald Ford: 7.77%

676.2/88 = 7.6840 = 7.68%

There are 8 months left in Obama's Presidency.

The labor force participation rate went down in April to 62.8%, from the 63% it was at in March..

I like how you give Reagan the benefit if factoring in additional months, but comparing apples to apples ....at this same point in Reagan's presidency, the average unemployment rate was higher when Reagan was president.

I started this three years ago and have been consistent from the first post to the latest. I looked at every Presidents time in office, all the data that is provided, and averaged it. That is the comparison that is done here. I'm comparing all the Presidents for which there is data for. This is the only complete and accurate way to do it.