The presidency is now a criminal conspiracy

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  1. Stephanie
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    Holy Moly...you all want to tie Limbuagh and Coulter around us conservatives necks.....Here's yours...liberals voice...:clap2:

    Olbermann: Bush may not observe the rules, but the country abides by them
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    Special Comment: On waterboarding and torture
    Nov. 5: Keith Olbermann comments on Pres. Bush and Michael Mukasey’s response to allegations of waterboarding in the Bush administration. Why was an Acting Assistant Attorney General forced out – just because he had the guts to do what Pres. Bush couldn't?


    It is a fact startling in its cynical simplicity and it requires cynical and simple words to be properly expressed: The presidency of George W. Bush has now devolved into a criminal conspiracy to cover the ass of George W. Bush.

    All the petulancy, all the childish threats, all the blank-stare stupidity; all the invocations of World War III, all the sophistic questions about which terrorist attacks we wanted him not to stop, all the phony secrets; all the claims of executive privilege, all the stumbling tap-dancing of his nominees, all the verbal flatulence of his apologists...

    All of it is now, after one revelation last week, transparently clear for what it is: the pathetic and desperate manipulation of the government, the refocusing of our entire nation, toward keeping this mock president and this unstable vice president and this departed wildly self-overrating attorney general, and the others, from potential prosecution for having approved or ordered the illegal torture of prisoners being held in the name of this country.

    "Waterboarding is torture," Daniel Levin was to write. Daniel Levin was no theorist and no protester. He was no troublemaking politician. He was no table-pounding commentator. Daniel Levin was an astonishingly patriotic American and a brave man.

    Brave not just with words or with stances, even in a dark time when that kind of bravery can usually be scared or bought off.

    Charged, as you heard in the story from ABC News last Friday, with assessing the relative legality of the various nightmares in the Pandora's box that is the Orwell-worthy euphemism "Enhanced Interrogation," Mr. Levin decided that the simplest, and the most honest, way to evaluate them ... was to have them enacted upon himself.

    Daniel Levin took himself to a military base and let himself be waterboarded.

    Mr. Bush, ever done anything that personally courageous?

    Perhaps when you've gone to Walter Reed and teared up over the maimed servicemen? And then gone back to the White House and determined that there would be more maimed servicemen?

    Has it been that kind of personal courage, Mr. Bush, when you've spoken of American victims and the triumph of freedom and the sacrifice of your own popularity for the sake of our safety? And then permitted others to fire or discredit or destroy anybody who disagreed with you, whether they were your own generals, or Max Cleland, or Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame, or Daniel Levin?

    Daniel Levin should have a statue in his honor in Washington right now.

    Instead, he was forced out as acting assistant attorney general nearly three years ago because he had the guts to do what George Bush couldn't do in a million years: actually put himself at risk for the sake of his country, for the sake of what is right.

    And they waterboarded him. And he wrote that even though he knew those doing it meant him no harm, and he knew they would rescue him at the instant of the slightest distress, and he knew he would not die — still, with all that reassurance, he could not stop the terror screaming from inside of him, could not quell the horror, could not convince that which is at the core of each of us, the entity who exists behind all the embellishments we strap to ourselves, like purpose and name and family and love, he could not convince his being that he wasn't drowning.

    Waterboarding, he said, is torture. Legally, it is torture! Practically, it is torture! Ethically, it is torture! And he wrote it down.

    Wrote it down somewhere, where it could be contrasted with the words of this country's 43rd president: "The United States of America ... does not torture."

    Made you into a liar, Mr. Bush.

    Made you into, if anybody had the guts to pursue it, a criminal, Mr. Bush.

    Can anyone plese explain what he just said????:eusa_doh: :lol: :bowdown:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21644133/
     
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    Bush lied.

    Bush did it.

    :cuckoo:
     
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    Tho a rather flippant approach, I agree.---Bush is the major culprit
     
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    I view Olbermann as the same type of person as Bill O'Reilly, only on the complete opposite side of the political spectrum...nevertheless, they are both ideologically locked into saying certain things to maintain viewership no matter how dumb it may be....
     
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    A journalist is really one to determine what torture is. :cuckoo:

    As far as Valery Plame goes I was watching one of those true crime TV shows and it was on Robert Hanssen. You guy's might remember back in 2001 he was arrested and charged with treason, he is the worst spy in US History. He was a senior official with the F.B.I. He gave up over 50 CIA covert agents to the Soviets. He also gave them the evacuation plans for a Nuclear Fallout, Where the President, Vice President, members of Congress gets evacuated to etc. Well it is being said that she was one of the operatives he gave up in the 90's. Our Government has a list of everyone and everything he gave up but it's so Classified that you would probably get a guided tour of Area 51 and Hangar 18 before we would get to find out for sure.
     

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