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(1) the marxists do not have the RCC and never will
(2) American cultural McCarthyism as espoused by PC and her hench creatures do not have America and never will
(1) the marxists do not have the RCC and never will
(2) American cultural McCarthyism as espoused by PC and her hench creatures do not have America and never will
I don't know why you felt it necessary to document that you have zero knowledge of history, nor of economics......after all, I stated it previously, .....but thanks for the vapid post. I always get a chuckle from every farrago you provide.
papal infallibility lolololololololololololol
Religion is a crock of shit
papal infallibility lolololololololololololol
Religion is a crock of shit
Watch your language around that avi.
The Pope is right--the global financial system is one of tyranny. Where he falls astray is where he calls the financial system "capitalism." The global financial system is nothing of the sort, and is generally the least free-market oriented aspect of the entire global economy.Quite a stir, the new Pope, an Argentinean Jesuit, Pope Francis, has created!
In Francis we can see a return to the poor as the first and major concern of the church, borrowing 'liberally' from Pope Leo VIII's ' "Rerum Novarum."
Rather than a 'revolutionary change,' the meaning of "Rerum Novarum," a closer look reveals it to be an attack on capitalism, and, ultimately, America.
1. "Joy of the Gospel(Evangelii Gaudium) is the title of the pope’s November 2013 apostolic exhortation, a document that encapsulates Francis’s vision for mankind.... it’s especially striking for its tough and uncompromising appraisal of the global financial system,particularly capitalism, [calling it] “a new tyranny.”
2. .... Rush Limbaugh lambastedEvangelii Gaudiumas a full-frontal assault on America. “This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the pope,”he said. “Unfettered capitalism? That doesn’t exist anywhere. Unfettered capitalism is a liberal socialist phrase to describe the United States.”
a. .... the pope emphasizes the need for a new system that combats injustice and inequality, that defends the poor and weak, that protects the rights of humans. It all sounds appealing.But we need to think seriously about its fundamental economic and political tenets:tearing down free-market capitalism and introducing a new financial system.
3. ... Evangelii Gaudium,he has outlined the financial model he wants to implement.
While his plan sounds fresh and innovative, it is entirely unoriginal. In fact, it has been employed multiple times. The results have varied, from simple failure to painful and total destruction.
4. By the time of the defeat of French Emperor Napoleon in 1815, the last remnants of the old feudal economic system had been destroyed. Over the next century, two competing economic theories sprang up in its place.
a. The first was Adam Smith-style capitalism, which flourished in Britain and America. The second was Karl Marx-style socialism.
b. Whereas capitalist philosophy called for economic power to rest in the hands of the individual, socialist philosophy placed that power in the hands of the collective state.Both economic philosophies displeased the Vatican and Europe’s Catholic elite.
5. Pope LeoXIIIwas concerned by how these twin evils, as he considered them—Protestant capitalism and atheistic socialism—both marginalized the Catholic Church in state affairs. In 1891, he wrote an apostolic exhortation,Rerum Novarum(On the Conditions of Labor), that laid out a Catholic economic and social model. Leo’s model became the official social doctrine of the Catholic Church and soon gained wide acceptance as a “third way.” Pope Francis has admitted thatEvangelii Gaudiumis rooted in Leo XIII’s Rerum Novarum.
6. .... Pope Leo’s new social doctrine was essentially an updated version of the medieval feudal order that had existed as far back as Justinian in the sixth century. The economic premise was the belief that equality is a cruel illusion, and that people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy shaped and guided by the Roman Church."
Much More Than an Economic Plan - theTrumpet.com
".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
Can any system, political or economic, be practical if based on a misunderstanding of human nature?
The Pope is right--the global financial system is one of tyranny. Where he falls astray is where he calls the financial system "capitalism." The global financial system is nothing of the sort, and is generally the least free-market oriented aspect of the entire global economy.Quite a stir, the new Pope, an Argentinean Jesuit, Pope Francis, has created!
In Francis we can see a return to the poor as the first and major concern of the church, borrowing 'liberally' from Pope Leo VIII's ' "Rerum Novarum."
Rather than a 'revolutionary change,' the meaning of "Rerum Novarum," a closer look reveals it to be an attack on capitalism, and, ultimately, America.
1. "Joy of the Gospel(Evangelii Gaudium) is the title of the pope’s November 2013 apostolic exhortation, a document that encapsulates Francis’s vision for mankind.... it’s especially striking for its tough and uncompromising appraisal of the global financial system,particularly capitalism, [calling it] “a new tyranny.”
2. .... Rush Limbaugh lambastedEvangelii Gaudiumas a full-frontal assault on America. “This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the pope,”he said. “Unfettered capitalism? That doesn’t exist anywhere. Unfettered capitalism is a liberal socialist phrase to describe the United States.”
a. .... the pope emphasizes the need for a new system that combats injustice and inequality, that defends the poor and weak, that protects the rights of humans. It all sounds appealing.But we need to think seriously about its fundamental economic and political tenets:tearing down free-market capitalism and introducing a new financial system.
3. ... Evangelii Gaudium,he has outlined the financial model he wants to implement.
While his plan sounds fresh and innovative, it is entirely unoriginal. In fact, it has been employed multiple times. The results have varied, from simple failure to painful and total destruction.
4. By the time of the defeat of French Emperor Napoleon in 1815, the last remnants of the old feudal economic system had been destroyed. Over the next century, two competing economic theories sprang up in its place.
a. The first was Adam Smith-style capitalism, which flourished in Britain and America. The second was Karl Marx-style socialism.
b. Whereas capitalist philosophy called for economic power to rest in the hands of the individual, socialist philosophy placed that power in the hands of the collective state.Both economic philosophies displeased the Vatican and Europe’s Catholic elite.
5. Pope LeoXIIIwas concerned by how these twin evils, as he considered them—Protestant capitalism and atheistic socialism—both marginalized the Catholic Church in state affairs. In 1891, he wrote an apostolic exhortation,Rerum Novarum(On the Conditions of Labor), that laid out a Catholic economic and social model. Leo’s model became the official social doctrine of the Catholic Church and soon gained wide acceptance as a “third way.” Pope Francis has admitted thatEvangelii Gaudiumis rooted in Leo XIII’s Rerum Novarum.
6. .... Pope Leo’s new social doctrine was essentially an updated version of the medieval feudal order that had existed as far back as Justinian in the sixth century. The economic premise was the belief that equality is a cruel illusion, and that people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy shaped and guided by the Roman Church."
Much More Than an Economic Plan - theTrumpet.com
".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
Can any system, political or economic, be practical if based on a misunderstanding of human nature?
That has nothing to do with my comment. Please respond to what I actually said, or don't respond at all.The Pope is right--the global financial system is one of tyranny. Where he falls astray is where he calls the financial system "capitalism." The global financial system is nothing of the sort, and is generally the least free-market oriented aspect of the entire global economy.Quite a stir, the new Pope, an Argentinean Jesuit, Pope Francis, has created!
In Francis we can see a return to the poor as the first and major concern of the church, borrowing 'liberally' from Pope Leo VIII's ' "Rerum Novarum."
Rather than a 'revolutionary change,' the meaning of "Rerum Novarum," a closer look reveals it to be an attack on capitalism, and, ultimately, America.
1. "Joy of the Gospel(Evangelii Gaudium) is the title of the pope’s November 2013 apostolic exhortation, a document that encapsulates Francis’s vision for mankind.... it’s especially striking for its tough and uncompromising appraisal of the global financial system,particularly capitalism, [calling it] “a new tyranny.”
2. .... Rush Limbaugh lambastedEvangelii Gaudiumas a full-frontal assault on America. “This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the pope,”he said. “Unfettered capitalism? That doesn’t exist anywhere. Unfettered capitalism is a liberal socialist phrase to describe the United States.”
a. .... the pope emphasizes the need for a new system that combats injustice and inequality, that defends the poor and weak, that protects the rights of humans. It all sounds appealing.But we need to think seriously about its fundamental economic and political tenets:tearing down free-market capitalism and introducing a new financial system.
3. ... Evangelii Gaudium,he has outlined the financial model he wants to implement.
While his plan sounds fresh and innovative, it is entirely unoriginal. In fact, it has been employed multiple times. The results have varied, from simple failure to painful and total destruction.
4. By the time of the defeat of French Emperor Napoleon in 1815, the last remnants of the old feudal economic system had been destroyed. Over the next century, two competing economic theories sprang up in its place.
a. The first was Adam Smith-style capitalism, which flourished in Britain and America. The second was Karl Marx-style socialism.
b. Whereas capitalist philosophy called for economic power to rest in the hands of the individual, socialist philosophy placed that power in the hands of the collective state.Both economic philosophies displeased the Vatican and Europe’s Catholic elite.
5. Pope LeoXIIIwas concerned by how these twin evils, as he considered them—Protestant capitalism and atheistic socialism—both marginalized the Catholic Church in state affairs. In 1891, he wrote an apostolic exhortation,Rerum Novarum(On the Conditions of Labor), that laid out a Catholic economic and social model. Leo’s model became the official social doctrine of the Catholic Church and soon gained wide acceptance as a “third way.” Pope Francis has admitted thatEvangelii Gaudiumis rooted in Leo XIII’s Rerum Novarum.
6. .... Pope Leo’s new social doctrine was essentially an updated version of the medieval feudal order that had existed as far back as Justinian in the sixth century. The economic premise was the belief that equality is a cruel illusion, and that people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy shaped and guided by the Roman Church."
Much More Than an Economic Plan - theTrumpet.com
".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
Can any system, political or economic, be practical if based on a misunderstanding of human nature?
You must be speaking for yourself when you support ".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
So.....you know your place?
That has nothing to do with my comment. Please respond to what I actually said, or don't respond at all.The Pope is right--the global financial system is one of tyranny. Where he falls astray is where he calls the financial system "capitalism." The global financial system is nothing of the sort, and is generally the least free-market oriented aspect of the entire global economy.Quite a stir, the new Pope, an Argentinean Jesuit, Pope Francis, has created!
In Francis we can see a return to the poor as the first and major concern of the church, borrowing 'liberally' from Pope Leo VIII's ' "Rerum Novarum."
Rather than a 'revolutionary change,' the meaning of "Rerum Novarum," a closer look reveals it to be an attack on capitalism, and, ultimately, America.
1. "Joy of the Gospel(Evangelii Gaudium) is the title of the pope’s November 2013 apostolic exhortation, a document that encapsulates Francis’s vision for mankind.... it’s especially striking for its tough and uncompromising appraisal of the global financial system,particularly capitalism, [calling it] “a new tyranny.”
2. .... Rush Limbaugh lambastedEvangelii Gaudiumas a full-frontal assault on America. “This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the pope,”he said. “Unfettered capitalism? That doesn’t exist anywhere. Unfettered capitalism is a liberal socialist phrase to describe the United States.”
a. .... the pope emphasizes the need for a new system that combats injustice and inequality, that defends the poor and weak, that protects the rights of humans. It all sounds appealing.But we need to think seriously about its fundamental economic and political tenets:tearing down free-market capitalism and introducing a new financial system.
3. ... Evangelii Gaudium,he has outlined the financial model he wants to implement.
While his plan sounds fresh and innovative, it is entirely unoriginal. In fact, it has been employed multiple times. The results have varied, from simple failure to painful and total destruction.
4. By the time of the defeat of French Emperor Napoleon in 1815, the last remnants of the old feudal economic system had been destroyed. Over the next century, two competing economic theories sprang up in its place.
a. The first was Adam Smith-style capitalism, which flourished in Britain and America. The second was Karl Marx-style socialism.
b. Whereas capitalist philosophy called for economic power to rest in the hands of the individual, socialist philosophy placed that power in the hands of the collective state.Both economic philosophies displeased the Vatican and Europe’s Catholic elite.
5. Pope LeoXIIIwas concerned by how these twin evils, as he considered them—Protestant capitalism and atheistic socialism—both marginalized the Catholic Church in state affairs. In 1891, he wrote an apostolic exhortation,Rerum Novarum(On the Conditions of Labor), that laid out a Catholic economic and social model. Leo’s model became the official social doctrine of the Catholic Church and soon gained wide acceptance as a “third way.” Pope Francis has admitted thatEvangelii Gaudiumis rooted in Leo XIII’s Rerum Novarum.
6. .... Pope Leo’s new social doctrine was essentially an updated version of the medieval feudal order that had existed as far back as Justinian in the sixth century. The economic premise was the belief that equality is a cruel illusion, and that people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy shaped and guided by the Roman Church."
Much More Than an Economic Plan - theTrumpet.com
".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
Can any system, political or economic, be practical if based on a misunderstanding of human nature?
You must be speaking for yourself when you support ".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
So.....you know your place?
Out of context, the first four words of my post mean absolutely nothing. Do yourself a favor and read the rest of the post. I am saying something quite different than what you have wrongly assumed.That has nothing to do with my comment. Please respond to what I actually said, or don't respond at all.The Pope is right--the global financial system is one of tyranny. Where he falls astray is where he calls the financial system "capitalism." The global financial system is nothing of the sort, and is generally the least free-market oriented aspect of the entire global economy.Quite a stir, the new Pope, an Argentinean Jesuit, Pope Francis, has created!
In Francis we can see a return to the poor as the first and major concern of the church, borrowing 'liberally' from Pope Leo VIII's ' "Rerum Novarum."
Rather than a 'revolutionary change,' the meaning of "Rerum Novarum," a closer look reveals it to be an attack on capitalism, and, ultimately, America.
1. "Joy of the Gospel(Evangelii Gaudium) is the title of the pope’s November 2013 apostolic exhortation, a document that encapsulates Francis’s vision for mankind.... it’s especially striking for its tough and uncompromising appraisal of the global financial system,particularly capitalism, [calling it] “a new tyranny.”
2. .... Rush Limbaugh lambastedEvangelii Gaudiumas a full-frontal assault on America. “This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the pope,”he said. “Unfettered capitalism? That doesn’t exist anywhere. Unfettered capitalism is a liberal socialist phrase to describe the United States.”
a. .... the pope emphasizes the need for a new system that combats injustice and inequality, that defends the poor and weak, that protects the rights of humans. It all sounds appealing.But we need to think seriously about its fundamental economic and political tenets:tearing down free-market capitalism and introducing a new financial system.
3. ... Evangelii Gaudium,he has outlined the financial model he wants to implement.
While his plan sounds fresh and innovative, it is entirely unoriginal. In fact, it has been employed multiple times. The results have varied, from simple failure to painful and total destruction.
4. By the time of the defeat of French Emperor Napoleon in 1815, the last remnants of the old feudal economic system had been destroyed. Over the next century, two competing economic theories sprang up in its place.
a. The first was Adam Smith-style capitalism, which flourished in Britain and America. The second was Karl Marx-style socialism.
b. Whereas capitalist philosophy called for economic power to rest in the hands of the individual, socialist philosophy placed that power in the hands of the collective state.Both economic philosophies displeased the Vatican and Europe’s Catholic elite.
5. Pope LeoXIIIwas concerned by how these twin evils, as he considered them—Protestant capitalism and atheistic socialism—both marginalized the Catholic Church in state affairs. In 1891, he wrote an apostolic exhortation,Rerum Novarum(On the Conditions of Labor), that laid out a Catholic economic and social model. Leo’s model became the official social doctrine of the Catholic Church and soon gained wide acceptance as a “third way.” Pope Francis has admitted thatEvangelii Gaudiumis rooted in Leo XIII’s Rerum Novarum.
6. .... Pope Leo’s new social doctrine was essentially an updated version of the medieval feudal order that had existed as far back as Justinian in the sixth century. The economic premise was the belief that equality is a cruel illusion, and that people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy shaped and guided by the Roman Church."
Much More Than an Economic Plan - theTrumpet.com
".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
Can any system, political or economic, be practical if based on a misunderstanding of human nature?
You must be speaking for yourself when you support ".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
So.....you know your place?
What were the first four words in your post.
If you think that 'That has nothing to do with my comment,' then you don't understand what the Pope was saying.
"Please respond to what I actually said, or don't respond at all."
You, being a serf who knows his place might follow such directions.....
...I....never.
Out of context, the first four words of my post mean absolutely nothing. Do yourself a favor and read the rest of the post. I am saying something quite different than what you have wrongly assumed.That has nothing to do with my comment. Please respond to what I actually said, or don't respond at all.The Pope is right--the global financial system is one of tyranny. Where he falls astray is where he calls the financial system "capitalism." The global financial system is nothing of the sort, and is generally the least free-market oriented aspect of the entire global economy.Quite a stir, the new Pope, an Argentinean Jesuit, Pope Francis, has created!
In Francis we can see a return to the poor as the first and major concern of the church, borrowing 'liberally' from Pope Leo VIII's ' "Rerum Novarum."
Rather than a 'revolutionary change,' the meaning of "Rerum Novarum," a closer look reveals it to be an attack on capitalism, and, ultimately, America.
1. "Joy of the Gospel(Evangelii Gaudium) is the title of the pope’s November 2013 apostolic exhortation, a document that encapsulates Francis’s vision for mankind.... it’s especially striking for its tough and uncompromising appraisal of the global financial system,particularly capitalism, [calling it] “a new tyranny.”
2. .... Rush Limbaugh lambastedEvangelii Gaudiumas a full-frontal assault on America. “This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the pope,”he said. “Unfettered capitalism? That doesn’t exist anywhere. Unfettered capitalism is a liberal socialist phrase to describe the United States.”
a. .... the pope emphasizes the need for a new system that combats injustice and inequality, that defends the poor and weak, that protects the rights of humans. It all sounds appealing.But we need to think seriously about its fundamental economic and political tenets:tearing down free-market capitalism and introducing a new financial system.
3. ... Evangelii Gaudium,he has outlined the financial model he wants to implement.
While his plan sounds fresh and innovative, it is entirely unoriginal. In fact, it has been employed multiple times. The results have varied, from simple failure to painful and total destruction.
4. By the time of the defeat of French Emperor Napoleon in 1815, the last remnants of the old feudal economic system had been destroyed. Over the next century, two competing economic theories sprang up in its place.
a. The first was Adam Smith-style capitalism, which flourished in Britain and America. The second was Karl Marx-style socialism.
b. Whereas capitalist philosophy called for economic power to rest in the hands of the individual, socialist philosophy placed that power in the hands of the collective state.Both economic philosophies displeased the Vatican and Europe’s Catholic elite.
5. Pope LeoXIIIwas concerned by how these twin evils, as he considered them—Protestant capitalism and atheistic socialism—both marginalized the Catholic Church in state affairs. In 1891, he wrote an apostolic exhortation,Rerum Novarum(On the Conditions of Labor), that laid out a Catholic economic and social model. Leo’s model became the official social doctrine of the Catholic Church and soon gained wide acceptance as a “third way.” Pope Francis has admitted thatEvangelii Gaudiumis rooted in Leo XIII’s Rerum Novarum.
6. .... Pope Leo’s new social doctrine was essentially an updated version of the medieval feudal order that had existed as far back as Justinian in the sixth century. The economic premise was the belief that equality is a cruel illusion, and that people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy shaped and guided by the Roman Church."
Much More Than an Economic Plan - theTrumpet.com
".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
Can any system, political or economic, be practical if based on a misunderstanding of human nature?
You must be speaking for yourself when you support ".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
So.....you know your place?
What were the first four words in your post.
If you think that 'That has nothing to do with my comment,' then you don't understand what the Pope was saying.
"Please respond to what I actually said, or don't respond at all."
You, being a serf who knows his place might follow such directions.....
...I....never.
PC is a pretend libertarian who in fact wants to be a dominate player in cultural McCarthyism instead of the current pipsqueak she is at the moment.
And again you misquote me and ignored the key words "out of context." You continually address a strawman. My post was an advocacy for free markets. That went over your head because you didn't actually read it.Out of context, the first four words of my post mean absolutely nothing. Do yourself a favor and read the rest of the post. I am saying something quite different than what you have wrongly assumed.That has nothing to do with my comment. Please respond to what I actually said, or don't respond at all.The Pope is right--the global financial system is one of tyranny. Where he falls astray is where he calls the financial system "capitalism." The global financial system is nothing of the sort, and is generally the least free-market oriented aspect of the entire global economy.Quite a stir, the new Pope, an Argentinean Jesuit, Pope Francis, has created!
In Francis we can see a return to the poor as the first and major concern of the church, borrowing 'liberally' from Pope Leo VIII's ' "Rerum Novarum."
Rather than a 'revolutionary change,' the meaning of "Rerum Novarum," a closer look reveals it to be an attack on capitalism, and, ultimately, America.
1. "Joy of the Gospel(Evangelii Gaudium) is the title of the pope’s November 2013 apostolic exhortation, a document that encapsulates Francis’s vision for mankind.... it’s especially striking for its tough and uncompromising appraisal of the global financial system,particularly capitalism, [calling it] “a new tyranny.”
2. .... Rush Limbaugh lambastedEvangelii Gaudiumas a full-frontal assault on America. “This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the pope,”he said. “Unfettered capitalism? That doesn’t exist anywhere. Unfettered capitalism is a liberal socialist phrase to describe the United States.”
a. .... the pope emphasizes the need for a new system that combats injustice and inequality, that defends the poor and weak, that protects the rights of humans. It all sounds appealing.But we need to think seriously about its fundamental economic and political tenets:tearing down free-market capitalism and introducing a new financial system.
3. ... Evangelii Gaudium,he has outlined the financial model he wants to implement.
While his plan sounds fresh and innovative, it is entirely unoriginal. In fact, it has been employed multiple times. The results have varied, from simple failure to painful and total destruction.
4. By the time of the defeat of French Emperor Napoleon in 1815, the last remnants of the old feudal economic system had been destroyed. Over the next century, two competing economic theories sprang up in its place.
a. The first was Adam Smith-style capitalism, which flourished in Britain and America. The second was Karl Marx-style socialism.
b. Whereas capitalist philosophy called for economic power to rest in the hands of the individual, socialist philosophy placed that power in the hands of the collective state.Both economic philosophies displeased the Vatican and Europe’s Catholic elite.
5. Pope LeoXIIIwas concerned by how these twin evils, as he considered them—Protestant capitalism and atheistic socialism—both marginalized the Catholic Church in state affairs. In 1891, he wrote an apostolic exhortation,Rerum Novarum(On the Conditions of Labor), that laid out a Catholic economic and social model. Leo’s model became the official social doctrine of the Catholic Church and soon gained wide acceptance as a “third way.” Pope Francis has admitted thatEvangelii Gaudiumis rooted in Leo XIII’s Rerum Novarum.
6. .... Pope Leo’s new social doctrine was essentially an updated version of the medieval feudal order that had existed as far back as Justinian in the sixth century. The economic premise was the belief that equality is a cruel illusion, and that people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy shaped and guided by the Roman Church."
Much More Than an Economic Plan - theTrumpet.com
".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
Can any system, political or economic, be practical if based on a misunderstanding of human nature?
You must be speaking for yourself when you support ".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
So.....you know your place?
What were the first four words in your post.
If you think that 'That has nothing to do with my comment,' then you don't understand what the Pope was saying.
"Please respond to what I actually said, or don't respond at all."
You, being a serf who knows his place might follow such directions.....
...I....never.
Are you often criticized for being inarticulate?
"...the first four words of my post mean absolutely nothing."
As is true for your entire post.
Must everything be dumbed down for you?
The Pope, Karl Marx, and everyone in between see the need for some entity to take care of them, make all their decision.....
....as you do.
Alexis de Tocqueville, writing “Democracy in America” in the 1830’s, described “an immense, tutelary power, which takes sole charge of assuring their enjoyment and of watching over their fate.”
As he predicted, this power is “absolute, attentive to detail, regular, provident, and gentle,” and it “works willingly for their happiness, but it wishes to be the only agent and the sole arbiter of that happiness. It provides for their security, foresees and supplies their needs, guides them in their principal affairs, directs their industry, regulates their testaments, divides their inheritances.” It is entirely proper to ask, as he asked, whether it can “relieve them entirely of the trouble of thinking and of the effort associated with living.”
For you, I suggest Marcus Aurelius:
Stand erect, or be made to stand erect.
Out of context, the first four words of my post mean absolutely nothing. Do yourself a favor and read the rest of the post. I am saying something quite different than what you have wrongly assumed.That has nothing to do with my comment. Please respond to what I actually said, or don't respond at all.The Pope is right--the global financial system is one of tyranny. Where he falls astray is where he calls the financial system "capitalism." The global financial system is nothing of the sort, and is generally the least free-market oriented aspect of the entire global economy.Quite a stir, the new Pope, an Argentinean Jesuit, Pope Francis, has created!
In Francis we can see a return to the poor as the first and major concern of the church, borrowing 'liberally' from Pope Leo VIII's ' "Rerum Novarum."
Rather than a 'revolutionary change,' the meaning of "Rerum Novarum," a closer look reveals it to be an attack on capitalism, and, ultimately, America.
1. "Joy of the Gospel(Evangelii Gaudium) is the title of the pope’s November 2013 apostolic exhortation, a document that encapsulates Francis’s vision for mankind.... it’s especially striking for its tough and uncompromising appraisal of the global financial system,particularly capitalism, [calling it] “a new tyranny.”
2. .... Rush Limbaugh lambastedEvangelii Gaudiumas a full-frontal assault on America. “This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the pope,”he said. “Unfettered capitalism? That doesn’t exist anywhere. Unfettered capitalism is a liberal socialist phrase to describe the United States.”
a. .... the pope emphasizes the need for a new system that combats injustice and inequality, that defends the poor and weak, that protects the rights of humans. It all sounds appealing.But we need to think seriously about its fundamental economic and political tenets:tearing down free-market capitalism and introducing a new financial system.
3. ... Evangelii Gaudium,he has outlined the financial model he wants to implement.
While his plan sounds fresh and innovative, it is entirely unoriginal. In fact, it has been employed multiple times. The results have varied, from simple failure to painful and total destruction.
4. By the time of the defeat of French Emperor Napoleon in 1815, the last remnants of the old feudal economic system had been destroyed. Over the next century, two competing economic theories sprang up in its place.
a. The first was Adam Smith-style capitalism, which flourished in Britain and America. The second was Karl Marx-style socialism.
b. Whereas capitalist philosophy called for economic power to rest in the hands of the individual, socialist philosophy placed that power in the hands of the collective state.Both economic philosophies displeased the Vatican and Europe’s Catholic elite.
5. Pope LeoXIIIwas concerned by how these twin evils, as he considered them—Protestant capitalism and atheistic socialism—both marginalized the Catholic Church in state affairs. In 1891, he wrote an apostolic exhortation,Rerum Novarum(On the Conditions of Labor), that laid out a Catholic economic and social model. Leo’s model became the official social doctrine of the Catholic Church and soon gained wide acceptance as a “third way.” Pope Francis has admitted thatEvangelii Gaudiumis rooted in Leo XIII’s Rerum Novarum.
6. .... Pope Leo’s new social doctrine was essentially an updated version of the medieval feudal order that had existed as far back as Justinian in the sixth century. The economic premise was the belief that equality is a cruel illusion, and that people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy shaped and guided by the Roman Church."
Much More Than an Economic Plan - theTrumpet.com
".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
Can any system, political or economic, be practical if based on a misunderstanding of human nature?
You must be speaking for yourself when you support ".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
So.....you know your place?
What were the first four words in your post.
If you think that 'That has nothing to do with my comment,' then you don't understand what the Pope was saying.
"Please respond to what I actually said, or don't respond at all."
You, being a serf who knows his place might follow such directions.....
...I....never.
Are you often criticized for being inarticulate?
"...the first four words of my post mean absolutely nothing."
As is true for your entire post.
Must everything be dumbed down for you?
The Pope, Karl Marx, and everyone in between see the need for some entity to take care of them, make all their decision.....
....as you do.
Alexis de Tocqueville, writing “Democracy in America” in the 1830’s, described “an immense, tutelary power, which takes sole charge of assuring their enjoyment and of watching over their fate.”
As he predicted, this power is “absolute, attentive to detail, regular, provident, and gentle,” and it “works willingly for their happiness, but it wishes to be the only agent and the sole arbiter of that happiness. It provides for their security, foresees and supplies their needs, guides them in their principal affairs, directs their industry, regulates their testaments, divides their inheritances.” It is entirely proper to ask, as he asked, whether it can “relieve them entirely of the trouble of thinking and of the effort associated with living.”
For you, I suggest Marcus Aurelius:
Stand erect, or be made to stand erect.
And again you misquote me and ignored the key words "out of context." You continually address a strawman. My post was an advocacy for free markets. That went over your head because you didn't actually read it.
I am not going to argue with what I said when it is right there in your face to read. You are either a complete imbecile, or intellectually dishonest. Ask yourself: what did I say the Pope was right about and why? And it would do you well to read the rest of my post which states where I argued the Pope was wrong.Out of context, the first four words of my post mean absolutely nothing. Do yourself a favor and read the rest of the post. I am saying something quite different than what you have wrongly assumed.That has nothing to do with my comment. Please respond to what I actually said, or don't respond at all.The Pope is right--the global financial system is one of tyranny. Where he falls astray is where he calls the financial system "capitalism." The global financial system is nothing of the sort, and is generally the least free-market oriented aspect of the entire global economy.Quite a stir, the new Pope, an Argentinean Jesuit, Pope Francis, has created!
In Francis we can see a return to the poor as the first and major concern of the church, borrowing 'liberally' from Pope Leo VIII's ' "Rerum Novarum."
Rather than a 'revolutionary change,' the meaning of "Rerum Novarum," a closer look reveals it to be an attack on capitalism, and, ultimately, America.
1. "Joy of the Gospel(Evangelii Gaudium) is the title of the pope’s November 2013 apostolic exhortation, a document that encapsulates Francis’s vision for mankind.... it’s especially striking for its tough and uncompromising appraisal of the global financial system,particularly capitalism, [calling it] “a new tyranny.”
2. .... Rush Limbaugh lambastedEvangelii Gaudiumas a full-frontal assault on America. “This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the pope,”he said. “Unfettered capitalism? That doesn’t exist anywhere. Unfettered capitalism is a liberal socialist phrase to describe the United States.”
a. .... the pope emphasizes the need for a new system that combats injustice and inequality, that defends the poor and weak, that protects the rights of humans. It all sounds appealing.But we need to think seriously about its fundamental economic and political tenets:tearing down free-market capitalism and introducing a new financial system.
3. ... Evangelii Gaudium,he has outlined the financial model he wants to implement.
While his plan sounds fresh and innovative, it is entirely unoriginal. In fact, it has been employed multiple times. The results have varied, from simple failure to painful and total destruction.
4. By the time of the defeat of French Emperor Napoleon in 1815, the last remnants of the old feudal economic system had been destroyed. Over the next century, two competing economic theories sprang up in its place.
a. The first was Adam Smith-style capitalism, which flourished in Britain and America. The second was Karl Marx-style socialism.
b. Whereas capitalist philosophy called for economic power to rest in the hands of the individual, socialist philosophy placed that power in the hands of the collective state.Both economic philosophies displeased the Vatican and Europe’s Catholic elite.
5. Pope LeoXIIIwas concerned by how these twin evils, as he considered them—Protestant capitalism and atheistic socialism—both marginalized the Catholic Church in state affairs. In 1891, he wrote an apostolic exhortation,Rerum Novarum(On the Conditions of Labor), that laid out a Catholic economic and social model. Leo’s model became the official social doctrine of the Catholic Church and soon gained wide acceptance as a “third way.” Pope Francis has admitted thatEvangelii Gaudiumis rooted in Leo XIII’s Rerum Novarum.
6. .... Pope Leo’s new social doctrine was essentially an updated version of the medieval feudal order that had existed as far back as Justinian in the sixth century. The economic premise was the belief that equality is a cruel illusion, and that people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy shaped and guided by the Roman Church."
Much More Than an Economic Plan - theTrumpet.com
".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
Can any system, political or economic, be practical if based on a misunderstanding of human nature?
You must be speaking for yourself when you support ".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
So.....you know your place?
What were the first four words in your post.
If you think that 'That has nothing to do with my comment,' then you don't understand what the Pope was saying.
"Please respond to what I actually said, or don't respond at all."
You, being a serf who knows his place might follow such directions.....
...I....never.
Are you often criticized for being inarticulate?
"...the first four words of my post mean absolutely nothing."
As is true for your entire post.
Must everything be dumbed down for you?
The Pope, Karl Marx, and everyone in between see the need for some entity to take care of them, make all their decision.....
....as you do.
Alexis de Tocqueville, writing “Democracy in America” in the 1830’s, described “an immense, tutelary power, which takes sole charge of assuring their enjoyment and of watching over their fate.”
As he predicted, this power is “absolute, attentive to detail, regular, provident, and gentle,” and it “works willingly for their happiness, but it wishes to be the only agent and the sole arbiter of that happiness. It provides for their security, foresees and supplies their needs, guides them in their principal affairs, directs their industry, regulates their testaments, divides their inheritances.” It is entirely proper to ask, as he asked, whether it can “relieve them entirely of the trouble of thinking and of the effort associated with living.”
For you, I suggest Marcus Aurelius:
Stand erect, or be made to stand erect.
And again you misquote me and ignored the key words "out of context." You continually address a strawman. My post was an advocacy for free markets. That went over your head because you didn't actually read it.
1. "And again you misquote me..."
Not true.
mis·quote(ms-kwt)
tr.v. mis·quot·ed, mis·quot·ing, mis·quotes
To quote incorrectly.
2. "My post was an advocacy for free markets."
Also not true.
Do you believe that the Pope argued for free markets?
You said "The Pope is right-..."
Seems I was correct in stating that you are less than articulate.
I am not going to argue with what I said when it is right there in your face to read. You are either a complete imbecile, or intellectually dishonest. Ask yourself: what did I say the Pope was right about and why? And it would do you well to read the rest of my post which states where I argued the Pope was wrong.Out of context, the first four words of my post mean absolutely nothing. Do yourself a favor and read the rest of the post. I am saying something quite different than what you have wrongly assumed.That has nothing to do with my comment. Please respond to what I actually said, or don't respond at all.The Pope is right--the global financial system is one of tyranny. Where he falls astray is where he calls the financial system "capitalism." The global financial system is nothing of the sort, and is generally the least free-market oriented aspect of the entire global economy.Quite a stir, the new Pope, an Argentinean Jesuit, Pope Francis, has created!
In Francis we can see a return to the poor as the first and major concern of the church, borrowing 'liberally' from Pope Leo VIII's ' "Rerum Novarum."
Rather than a 'revolutionary change,' the meaning of "Rerum Novarum," a closer look reveals it to be an attack on capitalism, and, ultimately, America.
1. "Joy of the Gospel(Evangelii Gaudium) is the title of the pope’s November 2013 apostolic exhortation, a document that encapsulates Francis’s vision for mankind.... it’s especially striking for its tough and uncompromising appraisal of the global financial system,particularly capitalism, [calling it] “a new tyranny.”
2. .... Rush Limbaugh lambastedEvangelii Gaudiumas a full-frontal assault on America. “This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the pope,”he said. “Unfettered capitalism? That doesn’t exist anywhere. Unfettered capitalism is a liberal socialist phrase to describe the United States.”
a. .... the pope emphasizes the need for a new system that combats injustice and inequality, that defends the poor and weak, that protects the rights of humans. It all sounds appealing.But we need to think seriously about its fundamental economic and political tenets:tearing down free-market capitalism and introducing a new financial system.
3. ... Evangelii Gaudium,he has outlined the financial model he wants to implement.
While his plan sounds fresh and innovative, it is entirely unoriginal. In fact, it has been employed multiple times. The results have varied, from simple failure to painful and total destruction.
4. By the time of the defeat of French Emperor Napoleon in 1815, the last remnants of the old feudal economic system had been destroyed. Over the next century, two competing economic theories sprang up in its place.
a. The first was Adam Smith-style capitalism, which flourished in Britain and America. The second was Karl Marx-style socialism.
b. Whereas capitalist philosophy called for economic power to rest in the hands of the individual, socialist philosophy placed that power in the hands of the collective state.Both economic philosophies displeased the Vatican and Europe’s Catholic elite.
5. Pope LeoXIIIwas concerned by how these twin evils, as he considered them—Protestant capitalism and atheistic socialism—both marginalized the Catholic Church in state affairs. In 1891, he wrote an apostolic exhortation,Rerum Novarum(On the Conditions of Labor), that laid out a Catholic economic and social model. Leo’s model became the official social doctrine of the Catholic Church and soon gained wide acceptance as a “third way.” Pope Francis has admitted thatEvangelii Gaudiumis rooted in Leo XIII’s Rerum Novarum.
6. .... Pope Leo’s new social doctrine was essentially an updated version of the medieval feudal order that had existed as far back as Justinian in the sixth century. The economic premise was the belief that equality is a cruel illusion, and that people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy shaped and guided by the Roman Church."
Much More Than an Economic Plan - theTrumpet.com
".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
Can any system, political or economic, be practical if based on a misunderstanding of human nature?
You must be speaking for yourself when you support ".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
So.....you know your place?
What were the first four words in your post.
If you think that 'That has nothing to do with my comment,' then you don't understand what the Pope was saying.
"Please respond to what I actually said, or don't respond at all."
You, being a serf who knows his place might follow such directions.....
...I....never.
Are you often criticized for being inarticulate?
"...the first four words of my post mean absolutely nothing."
As is true for your entire post.
Must everything be dumbed down for you?
The Pope, Karl Marx, and everyone in between see the need for some entity to take care of them, make all their decision.....
....as you do.
Alexis de Tocqueville, writing “Democracy in America” in the 1830’s, described “an immense, tutelary power, which takes sole charge of assuring their enjoyment and of watching over their fate.”
As he predicted, this power is “absolute, attentive to detail, regular, provident, and gentle,” and it “works willingly for their happiness, but it wishes to be the only agent and the sole arbiter of that happiness. It provides for their security, foresees and supplies their needs, guides them in their principal affairs, directs their industry, regulates their testaments, divides their inheritances.” It is entirely proper to ask, as he asked, whether it can “relieve them entirely of the trouble of thinking and of the effort associated with living.”
For you, I suggest Marcus Aurelius:
Stand erect, or be made to stand erect.
And again you misquote me and ignored the key words "out of context." You continually address a strawman. My post was an advocacy for free markets. That went over your head because you didn't actually read it.
1. "And again you misquote me..."
Not true.
mis·quote(ms-kwt)
tr.v. mis·quot·ed, mis·quot·ing, mis·quotes
To quote incorrectly.
2. "My post was an advocacy for free markets."
Also not true.
Do you believe that the Pope argued for free markets?
You said "The Pope is right-..."
Seems I was correct in stating that you are less than articulate.
I am not going to argue with what I said when it is right there in your face to read. You are either a complete imbecile, or intellectually dishonest. Ask yourself: what did I say the Pope was right about and why? And it would do you well to read the rest of my post which states where I argued the Pope was wrong.Out of context, the first four words of my post mean absolutely nothing. Do yourself a favor and read the rest of the post. I am saying something quite different than what you have wrongly assumed.That has nothing to do with my comment. Please respond to what I actually said, or don't respond at all.The Pope is right--the global financial system is one of tyranny. Where he falls astray is where he calls the financial system "capitalism." The global financial system is nothing of the sort, and is generally the least free-market oriented aspect of the entire global economy.Quite a stir, the new Pope, an Argentinean Jesuit, Pope Francis, has created!
In Francis we can see a return to the poor as the first and major concern of the church, borrowing 'liberally' from Pope Leo VIII's ' "Rerum Novarum."
Rather than a 'revolutionary change,' the meaning of "Rerum Novarum," a closer look reveals it to be an attack on capitalism, and, ultimately, America.
1. "Joy of the Gospel(Evangelii Gaudium) is the title of the pope’s November 2013 apostolic exhortation, a document that encapsulates Francis’s vision for mankind.... it’s especially striking for its tough and uncompromising appraisal of the global financial system,particularly capitalism, [calling it] “a new tyranny.”
2. .... Rush Limbaugh lambastedEvangelii Gaudiumas a full-frontal assault on America. “This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the pope,”he said. “Unfettered capitalism? That doesn’t exist anywhere. Unfettered capitalism is a liberal socialist phrase to describe the United States.”
a. .... the pope emphasizes the need for a new system that combats injustice and inequality, that defends the poor and weak, that protects the rights of humans. It all sounds appealing.But we need to think seriously about its fundamental economic and political tenets:tearing down free-market capitalism and introducing a new financial system.
3. ... Evangelii Gaudium,he has outlined the financial model he wants to implement.
While his plan sounds fresh and innovative, it is entirely unoriginal. In fact, it has been employed multiple times. The results have varied, from simple failure to painful and total destruction.
4. By the time of the defeat of French Emperor Napoleon in 1815, the last remnants of the old feudal economic system had been destroyed. Over the next century, two competing economic theories sprang up in its place.
a. The first was Adam Smith-style capitalism, which flourished in Britain and America. The second was Karl Marx-style socialism.
b. Whereas capitalist philosophy called for economic power to rest in the hands of the individual, socialist philosophy placed that power in the hands of the collective state.Both economic philosophies displeased the Vatican and Europe’s Catholic elite.
5. Pope LeoXIIIwas concerned by how these twin evils, as he considered them—Protestant capitalism and atheistic socialism—both marginalized the Catholic Church in state affairs. In 1891, he wrote an apostolic exhortation,Rerum Novarum(On the Conditions of Labor), that laid out a Catholic economic and social model. Leo’s model became the official social doctrine of the Catholic Church and soon gained wide acceptance as a “third way.” Pope Francis has admitted thatEvangelii Gaudiumis rooted in Leo XIII’s Rerum Novarum.
6. .... Pope Leo’s new social doctrine was essentially an updated version of the medieval feudal order that had existed as far back as Justinian in the sixth century. The economic premise was the belief that equality is a cruel illusion, and that people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy shaped and guided by the Roman Church."
Much More Than an Economic Plan - theTrumpet.com
".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
Can any system, political or economic, be practical if based on a misunderstanding of human nature?
You must be speaking for yourself when you support ".......people are happiest when placed in a social and political hierarchy ...."
So.....you know your place?
What were the first four words in your post.
If you think that 'That has nothing to do with my comment,' then you don't understand what the Pope was saying.
"Please respond to what I actually said, or don't respond at all."
You, being a serf who knows his place might follow such directions.....
...I....never.
Are you often criticized for being inarticulate?
"...the first four words of my post mean absolutely nothing."
As is true for your entire post.
Must everything be dumbed down for you?
The Pope, Karl Marx, and everyone in between see the need for some entity to take care of them, make all their decision.....
....as you do.
Alexis de Tocqueville, writing “Democracy in America” in the 1830’s, described “an immense, tutelary power, which takes sole charge of assuring their enjoyment and of watching over their fate.”
As he predicted, this power is “absolute, attentive to detail, regular, provident, and gentle,” and it “works willingly for their happiness, but it wishes to be the only agent and the sole arbiter of that happiness. It provides for their security, foresees and supplies their needs, guides them in their principal affairs, directs their industry, regulates their testaments, divides their inheritances.” It is entirely proper to ask, as he asked, whether it can “relieve them entirely of the trouble of thinking and of the effort associated with living.”
For you, I suggest Marcus Aurelius:
Stand erect, or be made to stand erect.
And again you misquote me and ignored the key words "out of context." You continually address a strawman. My post was an advocacy for free markets. That went over your head because you didn't actually read it.
1. "And again you misquote me..."
Not true.
mis·quote(ms-kwt)
tr.v. mis·quot·ed, mis·quot·ing, mis·quotes
To quote incorrectly.
2. "My post was an advocacy for free markets."
Also not true.
Do you believe that the Pope argued for free markets?
You said "The Pope is right-..."
Seems I was correct in stating that you are less than articulate.
1. "I am not going to argue with what I said when it is right there..."
Of course it is....I quoted it.
2. "You are either a complete imbecile, or intellectually dishonest."
This hostility proves that, not only am I correct....but you realize that I am correct.
3. "And it would do you well to read the rest of my post which states where I argued the Pope was wrong."
Interesting technique, the Kerry approach- 'I said he was right before I said he was wrong.'
No....the Pope is not write.
Human nature is such that folks value what they earn, not what they are given.
Fascism, socialism, Marxism, Liberalism...big government in every iteration means either to change human nature, or to build a welfare state to fulfill all one's needs.
“Culture is a stubborn opponent. The Soviet Union attempted to create the New Soviet Man with gulags, psychiatric hospitals, and firing squads for seventy years and succeeded only in producing a more corrupt culture.”
Bork, “Slouching Toward Gomorrah,” p. 198
And that is the value of the free market.
