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You clearly do not know what Arabs are, who the Palestinians are.The Palestinians are not Bedouin, the Bedouin are Bedouin. The Palestinians are a blend of people’s including those who have been there as long as the Jews at least according to genetic research.We have had discussions on two-state, three-state and one-state "solutions" - this is a new one that has not had a discussion devoted to it. Thank you rylah for bringing it up.
The link is: Palestinian Emirates Introduction
The idea is fascinating. I disagree with some of his historic preamble...but that is neither hear nor there.
Some of the points he makes are valid imo. The non-nationalist loyalties of the Palestinian's themselves that is also reflective of the Arab culture surrounding them in general - stronger loyalties to family, tribe and locale than to a "nation". This is evident in the high degree of corruption in the ruling parties. A more local governance might be more effective. There was a day when city-states were common - before the idea of nation states came into being. This might be a viable answer.
My one major concern is this. Dr. Kedar makes a point that no Jewish families should be forced to move (as would happen in a two-state solution) - but, in this solution - neither should any Palestinian families. Their right to remain where they are must be preserved.
What are your thoughts on this?
What is there to “disagree” with about historical fact?
I have seen nothing indicating that the so-called Palestinians (who are really trans-Jordanian Bedouin’s) don’t support hamas. Not have I seen anything indicating they want peace (or they would have taken the deal when Arafat was alive that gave them 98% of what they wanted.)
That said it’s not a bad idea. They just would never agree to any deal that doesn’t kill Israel. And that isn’t going to happen.
There has long been broad Palestinian support for a two state solution, two sovereign states. It has eroded some however.
The genetics you believe in is for people like yourself who wish to believe that there are people amongst the Palestinians going as far back as 10,000 years ago, or longer......as the Arabs keep changing how long they have been living in the ancient land of Canaan. Some now even attempting to make the Arabs be the Jewish People of the Torah.
The Arab leaders never had a support for a two state solution.
Just ask the Arab League which was formed to fight any attempts by the Jews to have a sovereign country of their own on their own ancestral Jewish land. What was left of it after England gave 78% of it (TranJordan) to the Arab Hashemites.
The only two state solution they have ever agreed to has been one where Arab Muslims are the sovereign people on both.
The two state solution eroded in the Arab refusal to having a Jewish State next to it in 1937, 1947, 2000, 2008, and many other times. And continues to do so.
Read the PLO, Hamas, Fatah charters, and find us one sentence which proves that the Arabs are only looking to have a second State for the Palestinians in Gaza and the PA areas of Judea and Samaria.