The Original Sin of Israel

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    According to Uri Avnery a distinction between Israelis and Jews would not have been a surprise to anyone living in Israel 50 years ago. Although it apparently surprised a Polish journalist returning to Warsaw after his first visit to the Holy Land:

    "'A friend of mine in Warsaw told me about a Polish journalist who visited Israel for the first time. On his return he reported with great excitement: “You know what I’ve discovered? In Israel, too, there are Jews!'"

    Avnery believes confusion about this distinction between Israeli and Jew has sown great evil in today's Israel:

    "This distinction between Israelis and Jews would not have surprised any of us 50 years ago.

    "Before the foundation of the State of Israel, none of us spoke about a 'Jewish state'.

    "In our demonstrations we chanted: 'Free Immigration! Hebrew State!'

    In almost all media quotations from those days, there appear the two words 'Hebrew state', almost never 'Jewish state'.

    Uri then goes into a fair amount of detail regarding "Torah-shielded parasites" and how they are currently taxing Israel's economy before summing up with this brief paragraph:

    "The source of all this evil is, of course, the original sin of the State of Israel: the non-separation between state and religion, based on the non-separation between nation and religion.

    "Nothing but a complete separation between the two will save Israel from total domination by the religious mutation."

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    Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper...
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    Stephen Harper is a fascist stooge.
     
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    Harper is full of crap.

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    That's beautiful, and very true.
     
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    The UN ranks Israel among the 15 best countries to live in (out of 170 countries) in the world and with the highest qualities of life, emphasizing political and cultural freedom and equality in education, healthcare, life expectancy and income, ahead of England, Spain, Greece, Italy, Finland, Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg and Austria

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    More Avnery on the biggest irony he's witnessed since 1933 Israel:

    "In 1933 I lived for half a year in Nahalal, the legendary communal village. Seeing it for the first time, I marveled at the communal hall building, the milk processing plant and the large agricultural school for girls (in which Moshe Dayan was the only male pupil).

    "Out of curiosity I asked about the synagogue and was shown a ramshackle wooden hut. 'That’s for the old ones,' one of the local boys told me pityingly.

    "One cannot understand what happened since then without knowing that in those days almost everyone believed that the Jewish religion was about to disappear, together with the Yiddish-speaking old people who still stuck to it. Poor geezers.

    "If somebody had predicted that the Jewish religion would dominate the future state, people would have laughed.

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    The UN ranks Israel among the 15 best countries to live in (out of 170 countries) in the world and with the highest qualities of life, emphasizing political and cultural freedom and equality in education, healthcare, life expectancy and income, ahead of England, Spain, Greece, Italy, Finland, Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg and Austria

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