The next BIG Republicans scam-----------> Tax Reform

[rightwinger]

The government has given tax cuts a gazillion times

1) obviously not since taxes are higher than ever and govt is bigger than ever.
2) Republicans would love to cut taxes and spending but cant because liberals need more and more welfare entitlement spending to buy more and more votes.

if the R's can't cut spending then they should not cut taxes, it only grows the national debt astronomically...that's been proven....

The key is......You cut spending FIRST
Then you determine what your tax rate should be

 

[deanrd]

The government has given tax cuts a gazillion times

1) obviously not since taxes are higher than ever and govt is bigger than ever.
2) Republicans would love to cut taxes and spending but cant because liberals need more and more welfare entitlement spending to buy more and more votes.

if the R's can't cut spending then they should not cut taxes, it only grows the national debt astronomically...that's been proven....

The key is......You cut spending FIRST
Then you determine what your tax rate should be

Republicans have already told us. Cut help for the middle class by cutting their insurance. Give that money to the rich. Then call it tax reform.


We saw it under Bush. And how well did that work out?

 

[basquebromance]

Of all 202 nations the USAs corporate income tax rate is the FOURTH HIGHEST. Only United Arab Emirates, Comoros, and Puerto Rico are worse.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Tax Reform for Republicans is "we will use the transporter to unform money in the pockets of the poor and middle class and then reform that money in the pockets of the wealthy".

Warp speed Scotty.

 

[IsaacNewton]

it's NOT TAX REFORM....it's simply tax cuts....

the tax structure and system is not being reformed at all....so don't let people call this tax cut, tax REFORM....

wrong, America is about freedom from big liberal govt so tax cuts are very very American and can be termed as reform!!

'Twas always thus and always thus will be. This paradigm would not exist if 'citizens' weren't so easily swayed into voting against their own best interests which the cohort of Republicans continually are.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

it's NOT TAX REFORM....it's simply tax cuts....

the tax structure and system is not being reformed at all....so don't let people call this tax cut, tax REFORM....

wrong, America is about freedom from big liberal govt so tax cuts are very very American and can be termed as reform!!

'Twas always thus and always thus will be. This paradigm would not exist if 'citizens' weren't so easily swayed into voting against their own best interests which the cohort of Republicans continually are.

voting for freedom from crippling, liberal, big govt welfare programs is voting against your best interests?? It's the basic principle of America!! See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

As a typical liberal you don't have a clue what you're talking about but still you are sure you are right. Imagine how dangerous that is? All your masters have to do is tell you there is more welfare involved and you're ready to man the barricades for them as a useful idiot.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Tax Reform for Republicans is "we will use the transporter to unform money in the pockets of the poor and middle class and then reform that money in the pockets of the wealthy".

Warp speed Scotty.

totally 100% stupid and liberal given that the poor don't pay taxes but are huge beneficiaries of the taxes on the rich!!

Warp speed Scotty??? Does that seem like a clever line to a liberal??

 

[rightwinger]

Of all 202 nations the USAs corporate income tax rate is the FOURTH HIGHEST. Only United Arab Emirates, Comoros, and Puerto Rico are worse.

You guys keep trying to sell that scam where you ignore the rate corporations actually end up paying........Effective Rate

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

(OP) Democrat Logic: If the middle class gives more money to the government, they'll be richer for it.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You guys keep trying to sell that scam where you ignore the rate corporations actually end up paying........Effective Rate

you have learned 37 times now that to get effective rate they must move off shore etc to lower tax countries, thus highest statutory rate in world is very very destructive to middle class jobs!

Shall we go for 38 times? See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Of all 202 nations the USAs corporate income tax rate is the FOURTH HIGHEST. Only United Arab Emirates, Comoros, and Puerto Rico are worse.

You guys keep trying to sell that scam where you ignore the rate corporations actually end up paying........Effective Rate

When you average in their lower rate on overseas earnings, their rate ends up lower.

 

[rightwinger]

You guys keep trying to sell that scam where you ignore the rate corporations actually end up paying........Effective Rate

you have learned 37 times now that to get effective rate they must move off shore etc to lower tax countries, thus highest statutory rate in world is very very destructive to middle class jobs!

Shall we go for 38 times? See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

Nice try.....but obviously weak

If they move off shore, those taxes do not count towards the U.S. rate

Effective tax rate is after they claim all deductions, exemptions, subsidies, deferrments

 

[rightwinger]

Of all 202 nations the USAs corporate income tax rate is the FOURTH HIGHEST. Only United Arab Emirates, Comoros, and Puerto Rico are worse.

You guys keep trying to sell that scam where you ignore the rate corporations actually end up paying........Effective Rate

When you average in their lower rate on overseas earnings, their rate ends up lower.

Another one with the same lame excuse

Offshore earnings do not count towards our rate

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Of all 202 nations the USAs corporate income tax rate is the FOURTH HIGHEST. Only United Arab Emirates, Comoros, and Puerto Rico are worse.

You guys keep trying to sell that scam where you ignore the rate corporations actually end up paying........Effective Rate

When you average in their lower rate on overseas earnings, their rate ends up lower.

Another one with the same lame excuse

Offshore earnings do not count towards our rate

When you say IBM only paid 20% (or whatever), that's their worldwide taxes paid divided by their worldwide earnings.

 

[Econ4Every1]

Nice attempt at deflection there. Only Obamacare was in the news. The GOP's more than 60 attempts at repeal.

Just a point on accuracy. There were only 4 attempts (I believe that's correct) to repeal the law in full..... The rest were attempts to undo, revamp or tweak the law. Minor point, but you need to be careful or those that disagree with you will trip you up on this...

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Minor point, but you need to be careful or those that disagree with you will trip you up on this...

Do you ever try to make a major point, like why you are a socialist? Why are you so afraid of your own position? do you understand why you are so attracted to trivial details?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Another one with the same lame excuse

Offshore earnings do not count towards our rate

now idea what you mean. By keeping earnings off shore and by investing and creating jobs off shore our corporations avoid the idiotic American liberal tax rate of 42%. To liberals this is good policy!! To all others it is 100% idiotic and perfectly liberal.

And that is not to mention that the tax is not paid by corporations anyway. Corporations are tax collectors not tax payers. We have the tax only to pander to the pure ignorance of liberals who insanely imagine they are punishing corporations or making them pay their fair share. Deanie has learned this 69 times now but has less than half the IQ needed to understand it !!

 

[Econ4Every1]

Minor point, but you need to be careful or those that disagree with you will trip you up on this...

Do you ever try to make a major point, like why you are a socialist? Why are you so afraid of your own position? do you understand why you are so attracted to trivial details?

Define Socialism for me, then tell me how I fit that definition.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Minor point, but you need to be careful or those that disagree with you will trip you up on this...

Do you ever try to make a major point, like why you are a socialist? Why are you so afraid of your own position? do you understand why you are so attracted to trivial details?

Define Socialism for me, then tell me how I fit that definition.

Socialism is big govt demand side Economics. You're a typical libsocialistcommie like Sanders always lying that all we always need just a little more govt. it's "never enough" for a Libcommie . Read book by that name or read Jefferson to understand why America is based on freedom from Libcommie govt.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Remember the Bush Tax cuts? How it was supposed to create jobs and give us a booming economy? So what happened?

Trillions in deficit leading to no money for infrastructure building.
The biggest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the rich in world history.
The beginning of the great deficit.
No new jobs, in fact, millions of jobs were moved to China and India and Mexico.
No booming economy.

And why do Republicans say they want Tax Reform? To create jobs of course.

Only, unemployment is nearly 4% and there are over 6 million jobs unfilled and available.

So we need to create more jobs?

We need to give the wealthy more money even though the wage gap is the greatest in history?

We don't need money for infrastructure?

Are Republicans really going to try to trick this country again? Of course it will work on the GOP base. They have proven to be stupid beyond belief. But will it work on the rest of the country?

And what happened after the last enormous tax cut for the rich disguised as Tax Reform.

U.S. has record 6 million job openings, even as 6.8 million Americans are looking for jobs

Trump hails job numbers that put unemployment at 16-yr low | Daily Mail Online

/----/ Oh dear, more bad news for the libs
Wonkblog
Middle-class income hit highest level on record in 2016, Census Bureau reports

Remember the Bush Tax cuts? How it was supposed to create jobs and give us a booming economy? So what happened?

Trillions in deficit leading to no money for infrastructure building.
The biggest transfer of wealth from the middle class to the rich in world history.
The beginning of the great deficit.
No new jobs, in fact, millions of jobs were moved to China and India and Mexico.
No booming economy.

And why do Republicans say they want Tax Reform? To create jobs of course.

Only, unemployment is nearly 4% and there are over 6 million jobs unfilled and available.

So we need to create more jobs?

We need to give the wealthy more money even though the wage gap is the greatest in history?

We don't need money for infrastructure?

Are Republicans really going to try to trick this country again? Of course it will work on the GOP base. They have proven to be stupid beyond belief. But will it work on the rest of the country?

And what happened after the last enormous tax cut for the rich disguised as Tax Reform.

U.S. has record 6 million job openings, even as 6.8 million Americans are looking for jobs

Trump hails job numbers that put unemployment at 16-yr low | Daily Mail Online

/----/ Will you be sending your tax refund back to the Treasury?