The New World Order’s Choice

[Flanders]

I do not usually post messages about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Prime Minister Netanyahu’s disgust with the consequences of the collapse of the latest peace talks makes me wonder if he realizes the choice is Israel, or the Arab world walking out of the UN:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM-H1GBYAi4&feature=player_embedded]Netanyahu On Failed Peace Talks With Palestinians (COMPLETE INTERVIEW) - YouTube[/ame]​

Irrespective of all of the analyses surrounding Israel and Palestine the New World Order crowd sacrificed Israel to the United Nations the minute Muslims realized they held the trump card:

Special Report | Bret Baier | Fox News Channel

Winston Churchill famously said:

You were given the choice between war and dishonor - you chose dishonor and you will have war.

I say:

The New World Order crowd was given the choice between the United Nations and Israel — they chose the United Nations and they will have war.

 

[Flanders]

Whoever the New World Order crowd elects it will always be about the United Nations as I stated in the OP:

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas decision to form a unity government with Hamas. Because of this, Israel has removed itself from any further participation in the peace process. Obama said:

We will continue to encourage them to walk through that door. Do I expect they will walk through that door, next week, next month or even in the course of the next six months? No.​

In other words, Obama is going to leave this alone until after the mid-term elections. Democrats are going to take a whupping as it is. They can ill-afford to have one of their most loyal constituencies stay home on election day. So the Obama Administration will ease off on Israel — for now.

But if Fatah and Hamas are still chummy when 2015 rolls around will the Obama Administration pressure Israel to enter into talks with the Palestinian Unity government? If that's the case will the Obama Administration remove Hamas from the State Department's Terrorism list? When you consider the Obama Administration went wobbly on Israel being recognized as a Jewish state then it should come as no surprise if they waver on this as well.

Obama: Time for Pause on Israeli-Palestinian Peace Process
By Aaron Goldstein on 4.25.14 | 10:35AM

Obama: Time for Pause on Israeli-Palestinian Peace Process | The American Spectator​

 

[georgephillip]

Have you ever considered the possibility this problem became a crisis in 1948 when 650,000 Jews inflicted their state upon 1.3 million Arabs, driving 700,000 Arabs from their homes, businesses, and bank accounts?

Today, there are nearly equal numbers of Jews and Arabs living between the River and the sea. Every Jew has a vote to determine who writes the laws they live under. Less than half the Arabs have the same franchise.

How much more land and water do Jews feel they are entitled to in Palestine?

 

[Sally]

Have you ever considered the possibility this problem became a crisis in 1948 when 650,000 Jews inflicted their state upon 1.3 million Arabs, driving 700,000 Arabs from their homes, businesses, and bank accounts?

Today, there are nearly equal numbers of Jews and Arabs living between the River and the sea. Every Jew has a vote to determine who writes the laws they live under. Less than half the Arabs have the same franchise.

How much more land and water do Jews feel they are entitled to in Palestine?

We know you are not interested in any Arabs, Herr Georgie, so why are you trying so hard to fool everyone> You keep on bringing the same thing up ad nauseam. Meanwhile, has anyone seen Herr Georgie talk about anything else on this Middle East forum besides his favorite scapegoats, the Jews. In the past three years alone, tens of thousands of Arabs have been killed, probably as many have been wounded, and there are two and a half million refugees. Evidently these unfortunate Arabs don't count in Herr George's book because he can't drag in his favorite scapegoats.

 

[georgephillip]

Have you ever considered the possibility this problem became a crisis in 1948 when 650,000 Jews inflicted their state upon 1.3 million Arabs, driving 700,000 Arabs from their homes, businesses, and bank accounts?

Today, there are nearly equal numbers of Jews and Arabs living between the River and the sea. Every Jew has a vote to determine who writes the laws they live under. Less than half the Arabs have the same franchise.

How much more land and water do Jews feel they are entitled to in Palestine?

We know you are not interested in any Arabs, Herr Georgie, so why are you trying so hard to fool everyone> You keep on bringing the same thing up ad nauseam. Meanwhile, has anyone seen Herr Georgie talk about anything else on this Middle East forum besides his favorite scapegoats, the Jews. In the past three years alone, tens of thousands of Arabs have been killed, probably as many have been wounded, and there are two and a half million refugees. Evidently these unfortunate Arabs don't count in Herr George's book because he can't drag in his favorite scapegoats.

Let's see if Ha$bara $ally can remember which thread she's spamming on today:

"Obama's statement is in response to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas decision to form a unity government with Hamas. Because of this, Israel has removed itself from any further participation in the peace process.

"Obama said: We will continue to encourage them to walk through that door. Do I expect they will walk through that door, next week, next month or even in the course of the next six months?

"No.

"In other words, Obama is going to leave this alone until after the mid-term elections. Democrats are going to take a whupping as it is.

"They can ill-afford to have one of their most loyal constituencies stay home on election day. So the Obama Administration will ease off on Israel — for now."

Once again, Israel proves it never misses a chance to miss a chance at peace, right?

Obama: Time for Pause on Israeli-Palestinian Peace Process | The American Spectator

 

[Sally]

Have you ever considered the possibility this problem became a crisis in 1948 when 650,000 Jews inflicted their state upon 1.3 million Arabs, driving 700,000 Arabs from their homes, businesses, and bank accounts?

Today, there are nearly equal numbers of Jews and Arabs living between the River and the sea. Every Jew has a vote to determine who writes the laws they live under. Less than half the Arabs have the same franchise.

How much more land and water do Jews feel they are entitled to in Palestine?

We know you are not interested in any Arabs, Herr Georgie, so why are you trying so hard to fool everyone> You keep on bringing the same thing up ad nauseam. Meanwhile, has anyone seen Herr Georgie talk about anything else on this Middle East forum besides his favorite scapegoats, the Jews. In the past three years alone, tens of thousands of Arabs have been killed, probably as many have been wounded, and there are two and a half million refugees. Evidently these unfortunate Arabs don't count in Herr George's book because he can't drag in his favorite scapegoats.

Let's see if Ha$bara $ally can remember which thread she's spamming on today:

"Obama's statement is in response to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas decision to form a unity government with Hamas. Because of this, Israel has removed itself from any further participation in the peace process.

"Obama said: We will continue to encourage them to walk through that door. Do I expect they will walk through that door, next week, next month or even in the course of the next six months?

"No.

"In other words, Obama is going to leave this alone until after the mid-term elections. Democrats are going to take a whupping as it is.

"They can ill-afford to have one of their most loyal constituencies stay home on election day. So the Obama Administration will ease off on Israel — for now."

Once again, Israel proves it never misses a chance to miss a chance at peace, right?

Obama: Time for Pause on Israeli-Palestinian Peace Process | The American Spectator

Are you showing us once again with your dollar signs, Herr George, that you are short of money as per usual? Once again, let me ask -- Has Herr George ever put a post on this forum which doesn't have to do with his favorite scapegoats? The Middle East happens to contain many countries while Israel is so small, and yet Herr George is so obsessed with his scapegoats that he really doesn't care what is happening in the rest of the Middle East when much is actually happening. One of the biggest Spammers of this forum has been Herrr George. He must really be asleep at the switch if he doesn't think the readers have noticed that. Maybe in Herr George's delusional mind he thinks hundreds and hundreds of new readers come to this forum every day and he wants to make sure they catch his Spam.

 

[Flanders]

Have you ever considered the possibility this problem became a crisis in 1948 when 650,000 Jews inflicted their state upon 1.3 million Arabs, driving 700,000 Arabs from their homes, businesses, and bank accounts?

To georgephillip: Have you factored 1945 into your thinking? That was the year the UN succeeded the League of Nations.

However, I believe that the conflict's origins can be traced further back in time, namely to the First Aliya (wave of migration) of Zionist Jews into Palestine, which began in the year 1882. This thesis will be proven by briefly studying the events of 1917 which are commonly thought to have initiated the conflict, and then proceeding to refute that claim through tracing the rise of national consciousness among the Zionist Jews and Palestinian Arabs and citing evidence of earlier hostilities between the two groups.

The Roots of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict:
1882-1914
Lorena S. Neal '95
Illinois Wesleyan University

http://digitalcommons.iwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1026&context=history_honproj​

You might also consider British control of Palestine after WWI ended in relation to the League of Nations. In short: The concept of today’s internationalism cum global government.

NOTE: President Truman cited Woodrow Wilson only months before the United Nations opened up for business:

When Harry S. Truman took office, he made clear that his sympathies were with the Jews and accepted the Balfour Declaration, explaining that it was in keeping with former President Woodrow Wilson's principle of "self-determination."

Teaching With Documents Lesson Plan: The U.S. Recognition of the State of Israel

U.S. Recognition of the State of Israel​

Surely, Truman believed that the United Nations would succeed in the Middle East where Wilson’s League of Nations had failed.

Today, there are nearly equal numbers of Jews and Arabs living between the River and the sea. Every Jew has a vote to determine who writes the laws they live under. Less than half the Arabs have the same franchise.

To georgephillip: Approximately half a franchise is a lot better than then the zero percent the Jews would have in a Muslim theocracy.

How much more land and water do Jews feel they are entitled to in Palestine?

To georgephillip: Not nearly as much as a worldwide caliphate demands.

Once again, Israel proves it never misses a chance to miss a chance at peace, right?

To georgephillip: Surrender is a form of peace.

 

[georgephillip]

"How the U.S. "Special Relationship" with Israel came about

"While many people are led to believe that U.S. support for Israel is driven by the American establishment and U.S. national interests, the facts don't support this theory.

"The reality is that for decades U.S. foreign policy and defense experts opposed supporting the creation of Israel.

"They then similarly opposed the massive American funding and diplomatic support that sustained the forcibly established state and that provided a blank check for its aggressive expansion. They were simply outmaneuvered and eventually replaced."

The History of US-Israel Relations

Many Jews who lived in Palestine prior to 1948 preferred a referendum instead of a UN mandate which likely would have resulted in a Semitic Union instead of a Jewish state.

 

[Sally]

"How the U.S. "Special Relationship" with Israel came about

"While many people are led to believe that U.S. support for Israel is driven by the American establishment and U.S. national interests, the facts don't support this theory.

"The reality is that for decades U.S. foreign policy and defense experts opposed supporting the creation of Israel.

"They then similarly opposed the massive American funding and diplomatic support that sustained the forcibly established state and that provided a blank check for its aggressive expansion. They were simply outmaneuvered and eventually replaced."

The History of US-Israel Relations

Many Jews who lived in Palestine prior to 1948 preferred a referendum instead of a UN mandate which likely would have resulted in a Semitic Union instead of a Jewish state.

Do you even know what is happening in the rest of the Middle East other than the place where you can drag in your favorite scapegoats, the Jews? This happens to be the Middle East forum so why are you so hesitant about giving the readers some news about what is happening in the rest of the Middle East in modern times? It is quite apparent that you care nothing about the Arabs except to use them as your pawns or else right along you would at least have been giving us some news about what is happening to them in the other areas of the Middle East. I guess you don't care about the atrocities that befall them, whether they are Muslims or Christians. If you can't drag in the Jews, you have no use for these other Arabs.

 

[Indeependent]

"How the U.S. "Special Relationship" with Israel came about

"While many people are led to believe that U.S. support for Israel is driven by the American establishment and U.S. national interests, the facts don't support this theory.

"The reality is that for decades U.S. foreign policy and defense experts opposed supporting the creation of Israel.

"They then similarly opposed the massive American funding and diplomatic support that sustained the forcibly established state and that provided a blank check for its aggressive expansion. They were simply outmaneuvered and eventually replaced."

The History of US-Israel Relations

Many Jews who lived in Palestine prior to 1948 preferred a referendum instead of a UN mandate which likely would have resulted in a Semitic Union instead of a Jewish state.

So let me get this straight...
The International Zionists were so wealthy and powerful that they allowed 6 million Jews, who could have EASILY taken over the Land of Israel, to be thrown in crematoriums.


I would ask if you're a complete moron but the answer is obviously 'Yes".

 

[georgephillip]

"How the U.S. "Special Relationship" with Israel came about

"While many people are led to believe that U.S. support for Israel is driven by the American establishment and U.S. national interests, the facts don't support this theory.

"The reality is that for decades U.S. foreign policy and defense experts opposed supporting the creation of Israel.

"They then similarly opposed the massive American funding and diplomatic support that sustained the forcibly established state and that provided a blank check for its aggressive expansion. They were simply outmaneuvered and eventually replaced."

The History of US-Israel Relations

Many Jews who lived in Palestine prior to 1948 preferred a referendum instead of a UN mandate which likely would have resulted in a Semitic Union instead of a Jewish state.

So let me get this straight...
The International Zionists were so wealthy and powerful that they allowed 6 million Jews, who could have EASILY taken over the Land of Israel, to be thrown in crematoriums.


I would ask if you're a complete moron but the answer is obviously 'Yes".

Some Zionists make morons look good, by comparison:

"Zionist factions competed for the honor of allying to Hitler.

"By 1940-41, the 'Stern Gang,' among them Yitzhak Shamir, later Prime Minister of Israel, presented the Nazis with the 'Fundamental Features of the Proposal of the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi) Concerning the Solution of the Jewish Question in Europe and the Participation of the NMO in the War on the Side of Germany.'”

51 Documents » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

 

[toastman]

"How the U.S. "Special Relationship" with Israel came about

"While many people are led to believe that U.S. support for Israel is driven by the American establishment and U.S. national interests, the facts don't support this theory.

"The reality is that for decades U.S. foreign policy and defense experts opposed supporting the creation of Israel.

"They then similarly opposed the massive American funding and diplomatic support that sustained the forcibly established state and that provided a blank check for its aggressive expansion. They were simply outmaneuvered and eventually replaced."

The History of US-Israel Relations

Many Jews who lived in Palestine prior to 1948 preferred a referendum instead of a UN mandate which likely would have resulted in a Semitic Union instead of a Jewish state.

So let me get this straight...
The International Zionists were so wealthy and powerful that they allowed 6 million Jews, who could have EASILY taken over the Land of Israel, to be thrown in crematoriums.


I would ask if you're a complete moron but the answer is obviously 'Yes".

Lol don't take Georgie boy seriously.
Jew haters like him will believe ANYTHING they read as long as it trashed Jews/Israel..

 

[georgephillip]

"How the U.S. "Special Relationship" with Israel came about

"While many people are led to believe that U.S. support for Israel is driven by the American establishment and U.S. national interests, the facts don't support this theory.

"The reality is that for decades U.S. foreign policy and defense experts opposed supporting the creation of Israel.

"They then similarly opposed the massive American funding and diplomatic support that sustained the forcibly established state and that provided a blank check for its aggressive expansion. They were simply outmaneuvered and eventually replaced."

The History of US-Israel Relations

Many Jews who lived in Palestine prior to 1948 preferred a referendum instead of a UN mandate which likely would have resulted in a Semitic Union instead of a Jewish state.

So let me get this straight...
The International Zionists were so wealthy and powerful that they allowed 6 million Jews, who could have EASILY taken over the Land of Israel, to be thrown in crematoriums.


I would ask if you're a complete moron but the answer is obviously 'Yes".

Lol don't take Georgie boy seriously.
Jew haters like him will believe ANYTHING they read as long as it trashed Jews/Israel..

Tell me what you object to in the following, Toastie:

"One ofthe most intriguing aspects ofthe Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the fact that 'In
1850, neither Jews nor Arabs viewed themselves as members of an ethnically, culturally,
linguistically homogeneous, teni.toria1ly based nation in the modem sense ofthe word.'I

"And yet,
within less than one hundred years, both peoples had developed such strong national ties to the
same piece of land that they seem doomed to forever spill the blood oftheir fellow claimants in a
continuous battle for supremacy.

"For most scholars, the starting point for this conflict seems to be
quite clearly established in 1917, when the nation of Great Britain adopted a plan for the
colonization ofPalestine based upon the wishes ofa group ofpolitical Jews who called themselves
Zionists.

"However, I believe that the conflict's origins can be traced further back in time, namely to
the First Aliya (wave ofmigration) of Zionist Jews into Palestine, which began in the year 1882.

"This thesis will be proven by briefly studying the events of 1917 which are commonly thought to
have initiated the conflict, and then proceeding to refute that claim through tracing the rise of
national consciousness among the Zionist Jews and Palestinian Arabs and citing evidence of earlier
hostilities between the two groups."

http://digitalcommons.iwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1026&context=history_honproj

 

[Sally]

So let me get this straight...
The International Zionists were so wealthy and powerful that they allowed 6 million Jews, who could have EASILY taken over the Land of Israel, to be thrown in crematoriums.


I would ask if you're a complete moron but the answer is obviously 'Yes".

Lol don't take Georgie boy seriously.
Jew haters like him will believe ANYTHING they read as long as it trashed Jews/Israel..

Tell me what you object to in the following, Toastie:

"One ofthe most intriguing aspects ofthe Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the fact that 'In
1850, neither Jews nor Arabs viewed themselves as members of an ethnically, culturally,
linguistically homogeneous, teni.toria1ly based nation in the modem sense ofthe word.'I

"And yet,
within less than one hundred years, both peoples had developed such strong national ties to the
same piece of land that they seem doomed to forever spill the blood oftheir fellow claimants in a
continuous battle for supremacy.

"For most scholars, the starting point for this conflict seems to be
quite clearly established in 1917, when the nation of Great Britain adopted a plan for the
colonization ofPalestine based upon the wishes ofa group ofpolitical Jews who called themselves
Zionists.

"However, I believe that the conflict's origins can be traced further back in time, namely to
the First Aliya (wave ofmigration) of Zionist Jews into Palestine, which began in the year 1882.

"This thesis will be proven by briefly studying the events of 1917 which are commonly thought to
have initiated the conflict, and then proceeding to refute that claim through tracing the rise of
national consciousness among the Zionist Jews and Palestinian Arabs and citing evidence of earlier
hostilities between the two groups."

http://digitalcommons.iwu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1026&context=history_honproj

My Gpd. is he still back to the Jews and Arabs in Palestine and Spamming his usual when it is quite obvious that he cares nothing about these Arabs except to use them as his pawns against his favorite scapegoats, the Jews. Herr George is now on the Middle East forum, and one would think that occasionally he would give us some news about what is happening in the other Middle East countries where so many innocent Arabs have been killed. Evidently these thousands and thousands and thousands of dead Arabs and badly wounded ones mean nothing to him because he can't blame the Jews for their deaths.