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No, it's us rightwingers pointing out facts to the left.He wasn't a leftist, that is you rightwightwingers redefining history with your talking points.Thank Hitler for being a leftist, then. If he were a rightist, he wouldn't have murdered people for being different from himself.6 million slaughtered is all the proof needed.You have nothing to support that claim whatsoever.Supremacy is a right wing trait not a party trait. Whatever they call themselves, if they believe in that shit they are fascists.YOU gloss over the actual political beliefs and activity of the Nazis, and you try to spin it so that racism is inherent to one party. You have absolutely ZERO evidence and historical backing for your assertion. I actually wonder if there's anyone left on this forum that takes you seriously, given that rather than address any of my points, you stopped to call your political opponents racist.
My Taid fought the Nazis in the second world war. He quite liked the Germans he met and thought that they had been duped. He despised Nazis and this was reinforced after he liberated one of their camps. You know,one of those camps that didnt exist and full of those people who didnt exist either.
Why do the right cling to these lies ? Its shitting on the memory of those who fell.
I've told no lies and will continue to tell no lies. Not a single part of your post even addresses mine.
Leftist ideologies move towards class equality, state ownership or people's ownership of means of production and an abolition of private property.
Hitler controlled production direction of those industries critical to the war effort but ownership remained with the industrialists whom he courted and who supported his regime and they retained profits as well. All other manufacturing as well as agriculture remained in private hands.
Hitler espoused some leftist rhetoric early on, but much of that remain ed rhetoric after he killed off the socialists and became powerful.
Both extremes of left and right trend towards authoritarianism despite the right's attempt to redefine left and right on recent times.
Hitler was also anti-union, pro-capitalist. Promised workers rights never materialized and trade unions were busted and made illegal. That is in line with rightwing policies.
What is also defining is once he took control of the party, he hunted down the leading socialists and all movement towards socialistic change ended.
No healthcare for all, no social equality, no workers rights. No wealth distribution. All of those define leftist movements. It was empty populist rhetoric. You have to look at what he did, not said. He was a populist who promised what a desperate Germany wanted to hear.
The only argument rightwing revisionists can marshal up is he took control of some portions of production and the rhetoric he employed before he came into power.
Compare that to what is associated with extreme rightwing ideologies.
Did I address your points? Or is there more?
Not necessarily class equality, but beyond that, Hitler did all of those things.
The government controlled roughly 500 industries through Germany, including:
- Land and forests
- Brick factories
- Stone quarries
- Fine porcelain and pottery factories
- Building materials factories
- Cement factory
- Mineral water extraction and bottling
- Meat processing
- Bakeries
- Small arms manufacturing and repair
- Wooden furniture design and production
- Military clothing and accessories
- Herbal medicine
- Fish processing
- Publishing of books and magazines on Germanic culture and history
- Art acquisition and restoration
- Production of Damascus blades
Killed off the Socialists? I think you mean "Killed off all that opposed him". He eliminated all other parties, not any specific ones.
And exactly what pro-capitalist moves did he make? Last I checked, taking control of private industry is hardly pro-capitalism. The only thing he did was import car parts to prevent Socialism from completely destroying his economy, yet he still controlled the means of production that built and sold the vehicles. If it's the government doing it, it's not Capitalist, it's statist.
Actually, National Socialist Germany did have Universal Healthcare. The workers were all owned by the government, and because of that, were ALL part of a Union, a big statist Union. The government even ran holidays for their state-owned workers.
I actually haven't pointed to his rhetoric one single time, I've been pointing to his policies through this entire discussion.
I feel like you don't check the quotations before replying, as that was ALSO a reply to Tommy. If you don't feel like checking the quotations for who I'm replying to, you can tell a reply to you from the fact that I treat you like a person.