The "mystery" surrounding Flynn......

[Care4all]

NOPE! the claim was comey treated Hillary UNFAIRLY by both of his negative announcements during the Presidential run...comey tried to HURT Hillary and he DID hurt Hillary during the campaign run and in a very MAJOR WAY.... this is what the Justice dept/Rosenthal report stated that was originally thrown before our face as Trump's excuse, until he decided to fess up on Lester Holt and said he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation....

And NO NO NO NO NO, you are wrong on Mueller's team and all of us see that there was MOST CERTAINLY collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians...Don Jr, Manafort, Kushner, Paige, Gordon, Pappadopolous, etc etc etc etc etc..... What we don;'t know yet and they are still investigating, if there was conspiracy to commit a crime....

Collusion- YES
Conspiracy-We don't know yet

Comey laid out gross negligence and violations of the espionage act. Clinton should be in prison.. Your really are ignorant of the law.. Liberal FEELINGS are not law..

Comey literally said exactly the opposite of that.

Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said that there was no classified data on her server, was that true?

Comey: There was classified data on her server.

Guilty, but not charged because the Clintons are above the law.

she did NOT LIE to the FBI, Comey was very specific, and said under oath, Hillary did not lie to the FBI.....

so stop with your twisted and convoluted, made up, right wing bull crap....that gowdy set up for a Campaign Ad

she lied to congress, several times. But she refused to testify under oath, any idea why?

Comey laid out her guilt in very clear terms, and he was under oath at the time.

But fear not, the Clintons are not subject to the same laws that you and I are subject to. Are you ok with that?

she didn't refuse, she didn't have to go under oath in her FBI interrogation because by law, it breaks the law to lie to the FBI....

Flynn was not under oath before his FBI interrogators either dummy!!!

Flynn simply lied before the FBI, and committed a felony.

Comey stated under oath, she did not lie before the FBI interrogators...

and as you know, the FBI knows the answers to the questions they ask their subjects...so they know immediately, if the suspect is lying,

just like they KNEW Flynn was lying about discussing the removal of sanctions (put on the Russians that day by president Obama) with the Russian Ambassador, before Flynn chose to lie about it!

Hillary did not lie, before the FBI, period!

 

[Valerie]

“Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, the [former] head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, was pushed out [by President Obama] after a series of clashes over his leadership style... [2012]

Flynn attempted to push DIA analyses and operators into the field and other high-intensity operations. This ran counter to how the DIA saw itself, leading many to believe that Flynn's vision for the agency was disruptive.

Flynn's critics also maintained that his management style was chaotic and that his aggressive push for changes often did not include an adequate follow-through.”

Why did General Flynn get fired by Obama?







"Although he initially denied it to FBI agents, Flynn now admits that he asked Russia to delay or defeat a U.N. Security Council resolution, approved Dec. 23, 2016, that would have condemned Israel’s building of settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. The Obama administration had agreed to allow the resolution to come up for a vote over the objection of Israel.

The incoming Trump administration opposed the U.N. resolution, and Flynn was directed by a “very senior member of the Presidential Transition Team” to contact foreign governments, including Russia … to influence those governments to delay the vote or defeat the resolution,” according to the plea agreement. The “very senior member” of the transition team was not identified.

A day later, the U.N. resolution would pass, with Russia voting in favor and the U.S. abstaining from voting.

Flynn also admitted that he lied to investigators about a Dec. 29 conversation that he had with Kislyak. On the day of the conversation, the Obama administration announced sanctions against Russia in response to Russia’s meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Flynn called to discuss the new sanctions with “a senior official” of the Trump transition team “who was with other senior members of the Presidential Transition Team at the Mar-a-Lago resort” that Trump owns in Florida.

Immediately after the call to Mar-a-Lago, Flynn called Kislyak and “requested that Russia not escalate the situation and only respond to the U.S. Sanctions in a reciprocal manner,” the plea agreement said. Kislyak agreed that Russia would “moderate its response to those sanctions” as a result of his request, according to the U.S. special prosecutor’s office.

But, when interviewed by the FBI on Jan. 24, Flynn denied making such a request and could not recall if Kislyak agreed to his request.

The former White House aide also acknowledged that he made “false statements and omissions” on documents filed with the Justice Department regarding payments that his company, the Flynn Intel Group Inc., received for lobbying work that principally benefited the government of Turkey, according to the plea agreement. Flynn retroactively filed foreign lobbying reports on March 7 for work that he did during the presidential campaign in 2016.


Flynn is now cooperating with the special prosecutor’s investigation into Russia’s efforts to influence the 2016 presidential campaign and whether there was any coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia.


Below are some key events in the Russia investigation involving Flynn from our larger story, “Timeline of Russia Investigation.”

2015
Dec. 10 — Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn speaks at RT’s anniversary conference in Moscow. RT is a Russian government-funded TV station once known as Russia Today. Flynn, who would become a foreign policy adviser to Trump during the campaign and national security adviser in the Trump administration, sits next to Russian President Vladimir Putin at the event.

In remarks at the event, Flynn is critical of the Obama administration’s foreign policy and supportive of working with Russia to battle ISIS. (It is later learned that he was paid $45,000 for his appearance, and failed to report the income on his government financial disclosure forms.)

2016
Feb. 26 — Reuters reports that Flynn “has been informally advising Trump” on foreign policy during the presidential campaign.

Aug. 17 — Trump receives his first intelligence briefing at FBI headquarters in New York City. He is joined by Flynn and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.

Nov. 8 — Trump is elected 45th president of the United States.

Nov. 10 — Trump meets with President Barack Obama at the White House. Obama reportedly warns Trump against hiring Flynn.

Nov. 18 — The president-elect selects Flynn as his national security adviser.


Michael Flynn's Russia Timeline - FactCheck.org


The Hidden History of Trump’s First Trip to Moscow

 

[Valerie]

Blame Obama! White House offers the lamest response to Flynn charges

"The White House didn’t mention Obama fired Flynn, or that he warned Trump about potential risks of hiring Flynn"


"Obama explicitly warned Trump about the potential risks involved in hiring Flynn. There's also no mention in Cobb's statement that Flynn continued to work as a top Trump official two weeks after the the administration was informed about his lie."


Papers over the fact that Flynn remained in his job more than two weeks after admin was informed he lied. NBC Politics on Twitter


— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) December 1, 2017





May 8, 2017

This story emerged shortly prior to when former acting Attorney General Sally Yates was set to testify on Monday before Congress "about the concerns she expressed to Trump administration officials about Flynn's contacts with Russian officials, namely with Kislyak,"

 

[Valerie]

continuation of closed thread >> Anyone else "wonder" why Flynn was only indicted for lying???


The news that Michael Flynn pleaded guilty Friday to Russia-related offenses is striking, for several reasons. The lies he told the FBI were about asking the Russian ambassador to the U.S., Sergey Kislyak, for political favors during the presidential transition, some of which the ambassador granted. The lies happened when Flynn was already national security adviser and Donald Trump was president. The fact that Flynn lied about contacts with Russia seems particularly suspicious. And if Flynn testifies, as ABC News has reported, that Trump directed the contacts, the lying looks more suspicious still.

The content of the Flynn-Kislyak conversations deepens the narrative that special counsel Robert Mueller has been building: Earlier guilty pleas revealed Russian efforts to connect with the Trump campaign; this one reveals official contacts between the Trump team and Russia after the election -- contact significant enough for Flynn to lie to the FBI about.

The fact that the lies concern Russia makes it politically harder for Trump to fire Mueller or to pardon Flynn than if the charge had involved Flynn's other legal woes over his unreported lobbying for Turkey.


Prosecutors could’ve chosen any criminal act on Flynn’s part for his initial plea. In negotiations with someone who has been caught committing felonies, federal prosecutors have most of the power. The point of the guilty plea is to put Flynn on the hook and require him to continue to cooperate going forward. Now that he’s admitting to a crime, they can seek a harsher penalty if he doesn’t cooperate and a lesser one if he does. What’s more, if the prosecutors want to add more charges later, they can.

How the Flynn Charges Box In Trump

 

[Care4all]

So, a moron like you "concludes" that Flynn is ONLY guilty of not having enough money????............That's it???.............LOL

What has he been charged with or even mentioned in an indictment, other then lying to the FBI?

Uh...that's kind of the point of the deal, professor. Despite having evidence to indict him on a long list of charges (as we know Mueller does have), he flipped Flynn and made him his bitch.

So you have this evidence that none of the rest of us have.

You have seen where Flynn was indicted for what? Collusion? Talking to the Russians? No, none of that, just lying to the FBI. Your wishful thinking is filling in the rest.

google it freewill....you clearly have NOT been paying attention..........

his alleged crimes can keep him in prison when added up, for the rest of his life....and can land his son in prison....

search Flynn plus Turkey, Kidnapping, General Clarke, $15 million payoff, foreign agent, crimes, peter smith russian stolen emails,

pick any of those topics plus flynn, google them....then enlighten yourself!

the problem for you libs is that there is no connection between those "crimes" and Trump.

your hope to remove Trump is false hope, it will never happen.

why did Flynn choose to commit a FELONY by lying about his conversations with the Russian Ambassador over telling the truth?

All subjects being interviewed are told ahead of the interview, that lying to the FBI is a crime, a felony.

So, what is your guess on what he was hiding, by lying? And why was it that the possible felony with the FBI by lying, was still worth the risk, vs, the FBI knowing what he was trying to hide....?

Any guesses on what Flynn was trying to hide, by lying to the FBI?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nat and Care4All drive Redfish before them as did Conan his enemies.

Flynn made a heck of a deal, so we are going to be impressed with what he has turned over on the WH to Mueller.

The Daughter Trump is by far the brightest of the four inner circle family members, and I bet she has been screaming and yelling and smacking the three men around, and you "fucking dumb shits" is the nicest thing she has said to them.

 

[EverCurious]

For some reason it's sticking in my craw that the question was about communications while on the campaign team, not the transition team(?)

(I can't put my finger on it, which, not always, but typically means its something I saw in a video. My memory sucks balls when it comes to video for some reason. I can be happy to watch a movie 1000 times, right up until I read a transcript then the movie is usually wrecked for me.)

 

[Care4all]

continuation of closed thread >> Anyone else "wonder" why Flynn was only indicted for lying???


The news that Michael Flynn pleaded guilty Friday to Russia-related offenses is striking, for several reasons. The lies he told the FBI were about asking the Russian ambassador to the U.S., Sergey Kislyak, for political favors during the presidential transition, some of which the ambassador granted. The lies happened when Flynn was already national security adviser and Donald Trump was president. The fact that Flynn lied about contacts with Russia seems particularly suspicious. And if Flynn testifies, as ABC News has reported, that Trump directed the contacts, the lying looks more suspicious still.

The content of the Flynn-Kislyak conversations deepens the narrative that special counsel Robert Mueller has been building: Earlier guilty pleas revealed Russian efforts to connect with the Trump campaign; this one reveals official contacts between the Trump team and Russia after the election -- contact significant enough for Flynn to lie to the FBI about.

The fact that the lies concern Russia makes it politically harder for Trump to fire Mueller or to pardon Flynn than if the charge had involved Flynn's other legal woes over his unreported lobbying for Turkey.


Prosecutors could’ve chosen any criminal act on Flynn’s part for his initial plea. In negotiations with someone who has been caught committing felonies, federal prosecutors have most of the power. The point of the guilty plea is to put Flynn on the hook and require him to continue to cooperate going forward. Now that he’s admitting to a crime, they can seek a harsher penalty if he doesn’t cooperate and a lesser one if he does. What’s more, if the prosecutors want to add more charges later, they can.

How the Flynn Charges Box In Trump

Yep, and I did hear on the news that there was nothing in the agreement to prevent other charges from being placed...Flynn did not get that particular plea deal that most who cooperate ask for....

 

[Care4all]

valerie,
so the FBI is still holding that over his head....he can still be charged with other crimes

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So Mueller is charging Flynn with trying to stand against Obama's rabid antisemitism

 

[Valerie]

valerie,
so the FBI is still holding that over his head....he can still be charged with other crimes

based on what i've read, yes...


most likely he's being as obstinate as he can get away with... seems to be his M.O.



"Prosecutors could’ve chosen any criminal act on Flynn’s part for his initial plea. In negotiations with someone who has been caught committing felonies, federal prosecutors have most of the power. The point of the guilty plea is to put Flynn on the hook and require him to continue to cooperate going forward. Now that he’s admitting to a crime, they can seek a harsher penalty if he doesn’t cooperate and a lesser one if he does. What’s more, if the prosecutors want to add more charges later, they can."

How the Flynn Charges Box In Trump

 

[Redfish]

Comey laid out gross negligence and violations of the espionage act. Clinton should be in prison.. Your really are ignorant of the law.. Liberal FEELINGS are not law..

Comey literally said exactly the opposite of that.

Gowdy: Secretary Clinton said that there was no classified data on her server, was that true?

Comey: There was classified data on her server.

Guilty, but not charged because the Clintons are above the law.

she did NOT LIE to the FBI, Comey was very specific, and said under oath, Hillary did not lie to the FBI.....

so stop with your twisted and convoluted, made up, right wing bull crap....that gowdy set up for a Campaign Ad

she lied to congress, several times. But she refused to testify under oath, any idea why?

Comey laid out her guilt in very clear terms, and he was under oath at the time.

But fear not, the Clintons are not subject to the same laws that you and I are subject to. Are you ok with that?

she didn't refuse, she didn't have to go under oath in her FBI interrogation because by law, it breaks the law to lie to the FBI....

Flynn was not under oath before his FBI interrogators either dummy!!!

Flynn simply lied before the FBI, and committed a felony.

Comey stated under oath, she did not lie before the FBI interrogators...

and as you know, the FBI knows the answers to the questions they ask their subjects...so they know immediately, if the suspect is lying,

just like they KNEW Flynn was lying about discussing the removal of sanctions (put on the Russians that day by president Obama) with the Russian Ambassador, before Flynn chose to lie about it!

Hillary did not lie, before the FBI, period!

are you able to see daylight from under hilllary's pant suits?

you are a totally indoctrinated libtardian. the Clintons are dirty, there is no question about that. the only question is whether they will ever be held accountable.

 

[Redfish]

Nat and Care4All drive Redfish before them as did Conan his enemies.

Flynn made a heck of a deal, so we are going to be impressed with what he has turned over on the WH to Mueller.

The Daughter Trump is by far the brightest of the four inner circle family members, and I bet she has been screaming and yelling and smacking the three men around, and you "fucking dumb shits" is the nicest thing she has said to them.

let me know when any Trump family member is sent to jail, or when Trump is impeached and removed from office. I wont be holding my breath.

Flynn has nothing to offer that incriminates anyone but himself. I know you libs are hoping for more, but its not there, and never was.

 

[Redfish]

valerie,
so the FBI is still holding that over his head....he can still be charged with other crimes

so could you, so could I. being charged does not guarantee guilt or conviction.

 

[Redfish]

Nat and Care4All drive Redfish before them as did Conan his enemies.

Flynn made a heck of a deal, so we are going to be impressed with what he has turned over on the WH to Mueller.

The Daughter Trump is by far the brightest of the four inner circle family members, and I bet she has been screaming and yelling and smacking the three men around, and you "fucking dumb shits" is the nicest thing she has said to them.

gnat and care4none are members of the left wing USMB clown circus. They, like you, make fools of them selves every day by posting talking points as if they were facts.

the left wing desperation is pathetic to watch. Just accept reality, Hillary lost, Trump won. Try again in 2020.

 

[Valerie]

are you able to see daylight from under hilllary's pant suits?

sounds like you are the one unable to get past ms hillary and her pantsuits.


seek help, trumptard.

 

[xyz]

are you able to see daylight from under hilllary's pant suits?

This is you?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Nat and Care4All drive Redfish before them as did Conan his enemies.

Flynn made a heck of a deal, so we are going to be impressed with what he has turned over on the WH to Mueller.

The Daughter Trump is by far the brightest of the four inner circle family members, and I bet she has been screaming and yelling and smacking the three men around, and you "fucking dumb shits" is the nicest thing she has said to them.

gnat and care4none are members of the left wing USMB clown circus. They, like you, make fools of them selves every day by posting talking points as if they were facts.

the left wing desperation is pathetic to watch. Just accept reality, Hillary lost, Trump won. Try again in 2020.

Only talk about Hillary, and that is because Trump has shown to be a monumental bust who is also in trouble with the DOJ and the FBI and his daughter. You are alt right fools are risible.

 

[Redfish]

Nat and Care4All drive Redfish before them as did Conan his enemies.

Flynn made a heck of a deal, so we are going to be impressed with what he has turned over on the WH to Mueller.

The Daughter Trump is by far the brightest of the four inner circle family members, and I bet she has been screaming and yelling and smacking the three men around, and you "fucking dumb shits" is the nicest thing she has said to them.

gnat and care4none are members of the left wing USMB clown circus. They, like you, make fools of them selves every day by posting talking points as if they were facts.

the left wing desperation is pathetic to watch. Just accept reality, Hillary lost, Trump won. Try again in 2020.

Only talk about Hillary, and that is because Trump has shown to be a monumental bust who is also in trouble with the DOJ and the FBI and his daughter. You are alt right fools are risible.

dreaming again, winger. Trump is going to be president for 4 or 8 years. He is doing exactly what we sent him to DC to do. Drain the swamp of leeches from both parties that have been screwing the public for years, calling out the corrupt lying media, and calling out the corruption and criminal activities of the Clinton crime family.

He is also fixing our economy, strengthening our military, and bringing Christ back to Christmas, while honoring the traditions and beliefs of our jewish, muslim, and other faith citizens.

He will sign a tax cut that will put more money in YOUR pocket and create millions of American jobs.

Hillary Clinton is nothing but a fat brown spot on history, she is no one and nothing. Even the dems and the media are now turning on her now that she has no power.

 

[Redfish]

are you able to see daylight from under hilllary's pant suits?

This is you?

Actually that's rightwinger.