The Muslim Mosque: A State Within a State—Parts 1 & 2

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This article was published with the following disclaimer: "Copyright © 2010 by Vijay Kumar. This article may be freely reproduced and distributed anywhere in the world for public information purposes only."

I am posting it in the "Politics" forum because it specifically makes the point, and builds the case, that Islam is a de facto political state. It is timely to many events currently happening in our nation.

THE MUSLIM MOSQUE: A STATE WITHIN A STATE

by Vijay Kumar

[Part 1, continued in next post]

The Kaaba in Mecca was not built as an Islamic mosque. It was an ancient temple that had been shared by polytheists, Christians, Jews, and Hindus, honoring 360 different deities. In 630 A.D. the Kaaba was captured by Islam in its military invasion and conquest of Mecca.

On the day of its capture, Muhammad delivered an address at the Kaaba in military dress and helmet, according to Ayatullah Ja’far Subhani in his book, “The Message”:

“Bear in mind that every claim of privilege, whether that of blood or property is abolished . . . I reject all claims relating to life and property and all imaginary honors of the past, and declare them to be baseless . . . A Muslim is the brother of another Muslim and all the Muslims are brothers of one another and constitute one hand as against the non-Muslims. The blood of every one of them is equal to that of others and even the smallest among them can make a promise on behalf of others.” —Muhammad​

Muhammad’s address at the Kaaba overthrew the Meccan government and declared all of Islam, anywhere in the world, to be a political and military state against all non-Muslims, regardless of the non-Muslims’ political, geographical, or national origins.

“If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him.” —Quran 3:85​

Although the rightful owners of the Kaaba are the many religions that shared it before the Islamic military conquest of Mecca, according to Subhani the Kaaba today is under the control of a hereditary regime going back to Muhammad: “currently the 12th Imam from the direct descent of the Prophet of Islam is the real protector, its custodian and guardian.”

All Islamic mosques everywhere in the world are required to have a clear visible indication pointing in the direction of Mecca and the Kaaba, where the international political and military state of Islam was founded. In most mosques there is a niche in the wall—the mihrab—that points toward the seat of Islamic power. Each mosque, like the Kaaba, is governed by an Imam in compliance with the political documents of Islam.

Mosques and the Political Documents of Islam

The Quran is the supreme political document of Islam—its political manifesto and political constitution. It is the only constitution of the nation-state Saudi Arabia, which is the home of Mecca and the Kaaba, where all mosques point, and is the birthplace of Islam.

The Quran is a totalitarian constitution. It demands submission by anyone within its jurisdiction. The Quran governs all mosques everywhere in the world.

As a political document, the Quran asserts that everyone in the world is within its jurisdiction. So far, Islam has not been able to enforce that totalitarian claim on the entire world, but has managed to do so through threat, infiltration, violence, terrorism, and coercion on roughly 20% of the world. It is engaged in a 1400-year-long Universal Jihad to dominate the rest of the world. All mosques are its outpost headquarters.

Central to the Quran’s political mandates is prohibition of religious freedom and religious tolerance, along with denouncements of religions such as Christianity and Judaism.

“O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them.” —Quran 5:51

“Fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)” —Quran 9:5​

All mosque leaders must be loyal to and supportive of these political and militaristic mandates.

The Quran as a political document also forbids separation of church and state. That is why every Islamic nation, where Islamic leaders have managed to gain power, is a theocracy, ruled by the Quran and Islamic Sharia law.

The Hadith (reported sayings and acts of Muhammad) and the Sira (the official biographies of Muhammad) are the other political documents that, along with the Quran, constitute the basis for Islam’s Sharia law.

“There is only one law which ought to be followed, and that is the Sharia.” —Syed Qutb​

Sharia law is administered by Islamic Imams who interpret the law and hand down rulings in their sole discretion. Sharia law does not allow trial by jury. Sharia law also mandates a double standard of laws for Muslims (believers) and infidels (non-believers). Sharia law mandates a discriminatory tax, called jizya, on non-Islamic religions and nations:

“Fight those who believe not in Allah...until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” —Quran 9:29​

Sharia law also mandates discrimination toward women, and forbids any criticism of Islam or its founder, stifling freedom of speech.

Sharia law also mandates that all men are slaves with no right to freedom of religion:

“Allah’s right on His slaves is that they should worship Him (Alone) and should not worship any besides Him.” —Muhammad Sahih Bukhari 4:52:108, Narrated Mu’adh​

Sharia law does not allow for separation of church and state. Sharia regards church and state as one inseparable entity governing every aspect of individual and social life, both spiritual and secular. That is why all Islamic nations are theocracies.

In short, Sharia law stands in direct opposition to the American Constitution and Bill of Rights. The implementation of Sharia law demands the overthrow of the American Constitution and our form of government and system of laws. Mosque leaders, in every nation in the world, are loyal to the Quran, the Hadith, the Sira, and consider them divine law, and therefore supreme over all manmade laws.

Other political and military documents of Islam include treaties of Muhammad, which are held in reverence by Islam as models of conduct in relations between nations.

“Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah [Muhammad] a beautiful pattern (of conduct) for anyone whose hope is in Allah.” —Quran 33:21

“War is deceit.” —Muhammad, Sahih Bukhari 4:52:268, Narrated Abu Hurarira​

In one treaty proposal, to Jaifer and Abd, Muhammad wrote:

“If you two accept Islam, your country will, as usual, remain with you. But if you refuse or object, it is a perishable thing.” —Muhammad​

In another, to the Chiefs of Aqaba, he wrote:

“It is better for you either to accept Islam or agree to pay Jizya and consent to remain obedient to Allah . . . If you do not accept these terms . . . I shall have to wage war (to bring peace and security).” —Muhammad​

These same patterns and political mandates have been used over and over by Muslims since 610 A.D. to invade and conquer many civilizations and nations throughout the world, and to eradicate human rights and freedoms in those lands. Iran once was called Persia and was Zoroastrian. Egypt was Christian. What was once a Hindu civilization was conquered and made into Pakistan, which is now part of the Axis of Jihad, along with Iran and Saudi Arabia. Afghanistan was Buddhist for thousands of years. Now its chief exports are heroin and Islamic terrorism.

“When We decide to destroy a population, We (first) send a definite order to those among them who are given the good things of this life and yet transgress; so that the word is proved true against them: then (it is) We destroy them utterly.” —Quran 17:16​

In every instance where Islam has conquered and “destroyed utterly” a nation or civilization, the key to the conquest was the establishment of mosques, which are political and military command and control centers for Islam, and which all point toward the seat of Islamic power: the Kaaba.

[Article continued in next post...]

 

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THE MUSLIM MOSQUE: A STATE WITHIN A STATE

by Vijay Kumar

[Part 2, continued from previous post]

Mosques and the Fallacy of the “Moderate Muslim”

The majority of Germans during World War II were not active members of the Nazi party, were not waging war, and were not involved in the holocaust. The leaders, though, were active members of the Nazi party, were waging war, and were involved in the holocaust.

The majority of Russians and eastern Europeans under the rule of the U.S.S.R. were not trying to spread Communism throughout the world, and were not threatening and waging war and revolution, but were going about their daily lives trying to survive. The leaders, though, were doing everything they could to spread Communism throughout the world, and were threatening and waging war and revolution.

Throughout history, since 610 A.D., the leaders of Islam have been waging Universal Jihad around the world for the purpose of Islamic totalitarian domination of the world. It has never mattered what percentage of the Muslim population was “peaceful” or “moderate.” Peace and moderation are not relevant to the totalitarian mandates of Islam’s political documents, and Islam’s leaders always follow the totalitarian mandates of Universal Jihad contained in them.

There are post-Nazi democracies. There are post-Communist democracies. There are no post-Islamic democracies. Literal Islam, as contained in its political documents, is the consummate totalitarianism. Neither Nazism or Communism had a metaphysical factor, as does Islam. Islam uses its metaphysics as a wedge to drive in its totalitarian political doctrines.

Once Islam has established itself sufficiently in any nation, it seeks to overthrow any existing regime or constitution or law, and replace it with Islamic theocracy. Even the most “moderate” Muslim is bound to obey Islamic law, and so is bound to fight if ordered to fight:

“When you are called (by the Muslim ruler) for fighting, go forth immediately.” —Hadith Sahih Bukhari 4:52:79:Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas​

All Islamic mosques have Islamic leaders (rulers) who can call Muslims for fighting, and as such are satellite headquarters for spreading Literal Islam’s political doctrine of world domination and totalitarianism—no matter how many “moderate Muslims” they serve.

Mosques and the Worldwide Islamic State

Islam is a de facto political state wherever it exists anywhere in the world. The Quran is its constitution. The Kaaba is its seat of power, still in the control of the regime that occupied it in 630 A.D. All Muslims in the world, regardless of nationality, are required to travel to the Kaaba at least once in their lifetime and pay homage to it.

The fact that nations and international political institutions in the world do not recognize Islam as a de jure state is irrelevant. Muhammad himself declared it as a state, and Islam’s own political documents declare it to be a state, and, ipso facto, it always is a state-within-a-state, governed by the Quran and Sharia law internally, anywhere that it has not yet gained full power and control.

“The Believers are but a single brotherhood.” —Quran 49:10

“A Muslim has no nationality except his belief.” —Syed Qutb

“Islam wishes to destroy all states and governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and program of Islam regardless of the country or the nation which rules it. The purpose of Islam is to set up a State on the basis of its own ideology and program.” — Syed Abul A’ala Maududi​

Just as our Constitution of the United States binds and identifies us as a single political and legal union of non-contiguous states, territories, political groups, and people, so the Quran binds and identifies all Islamic nations and all Muslims as a single political and legal union of non-contiguous nations, territories, political groups and people, regardless of geographic boundaries, whose seat of power is the occupied Kaaba. All Islamic Imams, in every mosque everywhere in the world, are bound to the Quran as supreme law.

As we have seen, Islamic law gives Islamic Imams the power to order Muslims to fighting. The German Max Weber, who had considerable influence on international law and politics, defined “state” as that entity that has a “monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force within a given territory.”

Islam declares that the Quran and Sharia law are divine, and, as such, are the only “legitimate” law in the world. In that way, Islam “self-legitimizes” its right to use physical force anywhere in the world, and the right of every Imam in every mosque in the world to call for physical force and violence at any time. This makes every Imam in every mosque a military leader.

Islam is a state by every definition and theory, and is a state hostile to and at war with the United States of America and its Constitution.

Mosques and Treason and Sedition Against the U.S.

Islam’s political documents and law call for the overthrow of our Constitution and our man-made laws, and therefore for the overthrow of our government, which by definition constitutes sedition and treason. The Islamic documents call for the overthrow of our government—a protector of religious freedom and human rights—through violence:

“I was ordered to fight all men until they say ‘there is no god but Allah.’” —Muhammad’s farewell address, 632

“I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’” —Hadith Sahih Bukhari 4:52:196 Narrated Abu Huraira

“He who fights so that Allah’s Word (Islam) should be superior, then he fights in Allah’s cause.” —Hadith Sahih Bukhari 1125 Narrated Abu Musa

“I asked the Prophet [Muhammad], ‘What is the best deed?’ He replied, ‘To believe in Allah and to fight for His Cause.’” —Hadith Sahih Bukhari 3:46:694 Narrated Abu Dhar

“And fight them till there is no more affliction (i.e. no more worshiping of others along with Allah)”. —Hadith Sahih Bukhari 6:60:40 Narrated Nafi’

“Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers.” —Quran 3.151

“I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.” —Quran 8:12

“Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom ye may not know, but whom Allah doth know.” —Quran 8:60​

The Quran, as the constitution of Islam and Muslims, is diametrically opposite to the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights. According to Islam and Muslims, the Quran is divine law, uncorrupted and incorruptible, whereas the United States Constitution is man-made and is not infallible, and therefore is corrupt. The U.S. Constitution is the antithesis of the Quran; therefore Muslims have no obligation to obey it.

A mosque in the United States is a command and control center of a foreign political and military state that seeks the overthrow of our government, and an Imam in a mosque is a political and military representative of a foreign state that calls for the overthrow of the United States.

The laws of the United States provide specific criminal penalties for sedition and treason. These laws are not only applicable to those advocating and calling for the overthrow of our Constitution and our government; they are applicable to anyone who gives “aid or comfort” to such declared enemies of the United States, or who “organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons” so engaged. The terms “organizes” and “organize” extend to “the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.”

Mosques are just such units.

 

[8537]

So if I understand properly, you believe every person who belongs to - and donates to - a mosque should be charged wint treason and sedition?

Am I understanding this properly?

 

[Kalam]

So if I understand properly, you believe every person who belongs to - and donates to - a mosque should be charged wint treason and sedition?

Am I understanding this properly?

This type of crap is par for the course for USMB.

 

[8537]

So if I understand properly, you believe every person who belongs to - and donates to - a mosque should be charged wint treason and sedition?

Am I understanding this properly?

This type of crap is par for the course for USMB.

It's also par for the course in the muslim countries that so many conservatives are apparently trying to emulate.

 

[Kalam]

So if I understand properly, you believe every person who belongs to - and donates to - a mosque should be charged wint treason and sedition?

Am I understanding this properly?

This type of crap is par for the course for USMB.

It's also par for the course in the muslim countries that so many conservatives are apparently trying to emulate.

With a little role reversal, yes. But you have to keep in mind that we need to apply a different standard to Islam since it's a "terrorist religion."

 

[kyzr]

I think its time to start building churches in muslim countries. If that doesn't happen, then muslims have no right to cry foul when we stop them from building near ground zero. Tolerance works both ways, not always in their favor. How about they stop "honor killings"? How about they stop celebrating 9/11?

 

[Kalam]

I think its time to start building churches in muslim countries.

I agree.

 

[kyzr]

I think its time to start building churches in muslim countries.

I agree.

You can agree but it won't happen. Muslims have zero tolerance for infidels. I can just see the first synagogue next to the ring-around the rosie thing in mecca. Uh-huh, just picture that happening.

 

[traveler52]

THERE IS NO MOSQUE PLANNED IN NEW YORK CITY....THERE IS NO MOSQUE PLANNED IN NEW YORK CITY....THERE IS NO MOSQUE PLANNED IN NEW YORK CITY.

Did any resident rightie fail to understand that?

 

[Kalam]

You can agree but it won't happen.

It already has. Virtually every Arab state other than Saudi Arabia has churches.

Muslims have zero tolerance for infidels.

The only thing I won't tolerate is stupidity.

I can just see the first synagogue next to the ring-around the rosie thing in mecca. Uh-huh, just picture that happening.

Why Makkah? Non-Muslims have no business there just as Muslims have no business erecting mosques in the Vatican.

 

[beowolfe]

I think its time to start building churches in muslim countries. If that doesn't happen, then muslims have no right to cry foul when we stop them from building near ground zero. Tolerance works both ways, not always in their favor. How about they stop "honor killings"? How about they stop celebrating 9/11?

I know I'm weighing in on this late, but I just couldn't pass this one by. See, that's a really BIG problem. You're biaching now about some other entity (Islam) trying to take control of the US now. Yet, you want to impose YOUR views (building of churches in muslim countries) on other people. What gives you the right to decide how others will live???

 

[beowolfe]

THERE IS NO MOSQUE PLANNED IN NEW YORK CITY....THERE IS NO MOSQUE PLANNED IN NEW YORK CITY....THERE IS NO MOSQUE PLANNED IN NEW YORK CITY.

Did any resident rightie fail to understand that?

The cultural center, of which a mosque is a part, is planned in NY City. It's just not at ground zero.

 

[traveler52]

Muslim-Americans were killed in the World Trade Center Attacks. Muslim Americans were when the jet slamed into the Pentagon.

Muslim-Americans were "First Responders" helped carry the victims of these attacks out of the building(s).

Muslim-Americans have served and are serving in the United States Military. Many have been killed in the service of their country. Many more have lost limbs and suffered TBI.

Muslim-Americans volunteered to bring out the broken bodies after the attacks. Muslim-Americans honored the bodies brought out, one by one. They did not to think about the religion of those killed, only that the persons killed deserved to be treated with respect.

No, repeat NO Muslim-Americans were involved in the September 11, 2001 attacks.

Stop with the Anti-Muslim rants.

Your only doing what Bin Laden wants, for America to hurt and wage war on Muslims.

Even the fracking shrub said in the days after the attacks that Islam is a Religion of Peace.

 

[Rezonator]

This type of crap is par for the course for USMB.

What do you mean by "this type of crap"? Do you disagree with this quote from the article:

"All the Muslims are brothers of one another and constitute one hand as against the non-Muslims." —Muhammad, 630 A.D. at the occupation of Mecca

 

[Rezonator]

Muslim-Americans were killed in the World Trade Center Attacks. Muslim Americans were when the jet slamed into the Pentagon.

Yes, a few. And according to their own beliefs, those few went to a beautiful eternal heaven where their every desire would be fulfilled, having died in a "holy" cause, while the thousands of "infidels" who died went to the torture of eternal hell they richly deserved.

Is this the point you were trying to make? Are you "building bridges"?

 

[fyrenza]

Thank you, OP, for sharing that most educational article!

Most American people have no idea of what the Quran calls it's followers to believe, nor the depth of the commitment of it's adherents, precisely because of the freedoms Americans have have ALWAYS enjoyed, and specifically regarding our adamant refusal to allow church to BECOME state, and vice versa.

I truly hope that some of the folks that read your post WILL delve into the history of Islam, to study for themselves the culture that they welcome with open arms, and see for themselves the outcome of their tolerance for the intolerant.

 

[rdean]

The Muslim Mosque: A State Within a State—Parts 1 & 2

The real "nation within a nation" is the "Confederate Conservative right wing Theocratic Republican Nation of Teabags". This is a nation that is 90% white and nearly all Christian.

They vote in lockstep, believe the same nonsense. Listen to the same music. Share a contempt for education.

They are like Patty and Cathy from the Patty Duke Show.

They laugh alike
they walk alike
at times they talk alike
You could lose your mind
When cousins
are two of a kind

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVm-_y7u0T0&feature=related]YouTube - Patty Duke Show theme[/ame]

 

[Smartt33]

So if I understand properly, you believe every person who belongs to - and donates to - a mosque should be charged wint treason and sedition?

Am I understanding this properly?

I don't that is what the OP is implying. I believe what is said here is that we cannot allow an "intolerant state, " or any other separate government, within a free state.

 

[8537]

So if I understand properly, you believe every person who belongs to - and donates to - a mosque should be charged wint treason and sedition?

Am I understanding this properly?

I don't that is what the OP is implying. I believe what is said here is that we cannot allow an "intolerant state, " or any other separate government, within a free state.

I don't think he implies it - I think he outright states it. right here:

These laws [treason and sedition] are not only applicable to those advocating and calling for the overthrow of our Constitution and our government; they are applicable to anyone who gives “aid or comfort” to such declared enemies of the United States,[declared enemies being previously defined as imams and other leaders]

or who “organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons” so engaged. The terms “organizes” and “organize” extend to “the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.”[in other words, anyone who is muslim and expands or regroups an assembly of muslims is committing sedition and/or treason]