The Most Important Vote in the U.S. Senate

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    The chamber’s parliamentarian will have a lot of say over the fate of the Republican health care bill.

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    (She's in there somewhere)

    I think it was the tv show Emergency! That had a couple of episodes about a stickler for the rules of debate who kept screwing everything up. How many of us even remember what a “parliamentarian” is? That being said, this is an excellent essay on just what a big impact this obscure Senate employee will have on the new health care act and maybe other legislation.

    Most the time, Elizabeth MacDonough’s job is as unglamorous and uncontroversial as any in Congress—tedious even. Since 2012, she has served as parliamentarian of the Senate, which means her role, as outlined on the Senate’s web site, is “to provide expert advice and assistance on questions relating to the meaning and application of that chamber's legislative rules, precedents, and practices.”

    Full, interesting piece @ The Most Important Vote in the Senate
     
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    She offers advice.
     
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    From the article:
    There's a concept that militates for the WH having its own parliamentarian, or something like it, at least in this Presidency. Of course, to make use of expert advice, one must first be humble enough to think that maybe one doesn't "know more than the generals," as it were.....Hmm...Maybe in retrospect it's best that we aren't wasting our money on something like a parliamentarian for the WH.

    Oh, my. Look at that. Yet another behavioral pattern more than a few of our elected leaders should follow after taking office.

    I don't envy her her job. Poor woman. God bless and help her.

    Trumpkins, go get your dictionary. I know y'all don't understand nuance.

    Oh, Lord. Yet another stumbling block for Trumpkins....."What if," hypotheses contrary to facts is their "bread and butter."

    That probably runs counter to the whole reason they are there as experts. I think it's part of their job to help their constituency -- senators and their staffs -- understand the details of parliamentary procedure and the Senate's own rules and their application. (Remember, Senate rules are not laws, but their application is, necessarily legalistic.)

    Would someone please tell Trump that so that maybe he won't tweet out stupid sh*t like "Obama wiretapped my phones" without first checking with credible sources rather than an editorialist on TV or some other person(s) whom he happened to discussing "whatever." Hell, just just get USMB members to do that before they engage in a discussion/debate.

     
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    Many of the Congressmen and Senators are master parliamentarians' themselves, so it isn't likely she could get away with anything underhanded. I wouldn't worry about her impact; she's just the traffic cop and everybody in the room knows her job.
     

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