RetiredGySgt
Diamond Member
If the Government manages to strip us of our second amendment rights the following will occur in my opinion.
After they remove the right to be armed, which is where this is going, the 1st will fall, first assembly will be restricted followed by free speech. Then the right to religion will be stripped.
After the 1st is gone the 4th will be stripped, we already don't really own our homes, you must pay taxes every year or have them confiscated. This will just accelerate into out right confiscation as allowed by the Supreme Court a couple years ago. No right to property except where the Government decides they don't want it. As for search and seizure, hell one can make a stink about that just like they have about "the children" and guns.
With no right to arms, no freedom of speech or assembly and property rights stripped, what follows in quick succession is Amendment 6, then 7 and 8.
It won't happen over night. But once we start down this road that is where we are headed.
The argument that because 20 kids got killed 320 million must be disarmed is going to to be repeated if it works. next time it will be assembly, for the sake of the children we must not allow groups to assemble and spew what ever rhetoric they are currently allowed to. Of course only the fringe groups will be mentioned but the new laws will encompass ALL assembly, for the CHILDREN.
And what can I tell you about free speech? Hell that one is a serious pain in the ass for the Government. Once again for the Children we need to restrict all kind of speech. FOR THE CHILDREN, of course.
Religion? The left already has a long laundry list of reasons Religion is bad. They will simply update them and apply them to some minority group and demand religion not have freedom to infringe on this or that groups feelings any more.
These three will be slow in coming but come they will.
As for private property rights? The Supreme Court already ruled that a State can confiscate your property using imminent domain for the simple reason some other person or group will pay them more for it or pay more in taxes.
Once the 1st and 2nd are gone no more worry about the pesky population going postal if we start seizing their property.
Speedy trial? Hell that is already a joke in some cases. Once the Government has throttled the people and the press they will just take as long as they need to fabricate, err I mean build a case.
This will of course involve that pesky 5th amendment too. I mean think of the criminals that get off cause they have the right to face their accusers? Or that pesky right to not incriminate ones self? Think of all the children we can save if molesters, kidnappers and murderers could not stay quiet?
This doesn't happen over night but it is a steady progress.
Meanwhile we have posters on this board salivating at the idea of 5 or 6 Liberal Supreme Court Judges.
Legally and Constitutionally the current attempt to grab guns and restrict them are unreasonable and violate case law and precedent. But note carefully the left does not CARE.
So the debate is who thinks the fraction of a fraction of a percent of murders that occur and the even smaller number of children murdered and the extremely even smaller number of mass killings justifies the removal of Constitutional rights?
After they remove the right to be armed, which is where this is going, the 1st will fall, first assembly will be restricted followed by free speech. Then the right to religion will be stripped.
After the 1st is gone the 4th will be stripped, we already don't really own our homes, you must pay taxes every year or have them confiscated. This will just accelerate into out right confiscation as allowed by the Supreme Court a couple years ago. No right to property except where the Government decides they don't want it. As for search and seizure, hell one can make a stink about that just like they have about "the children" and guns.
With no right to arms, no freedom of speech or assembly and property rights stripped, what follows in quick succession is Amendment 6, then 7 and 8.
It won't happen over night. But once we start down this road that is where we are headed.
The argument that because 20 kids got killed 320 million must be disarmed is going to to be repeated if it works. next time it will be assembly, for the sake of the children we must not allow groups to assemble and spew what ever rhetoric they are currently allowed to. Of course only the fringe groups will be mentioned but the new laws will encompass ALL assembly, for the CHILDREN.
And what can I tell you about free speech? Hell that one is a serious pain in the ass for the Government. Once again for the Children we need to restrict all kind of speech. FOR THE CHILDREN, of course.
Religion? The left already has a long laundry list of reasons Religion is bad. They will simply update them and apply them to some minority group and demand religion not have freedom to infringe on this or that groups feelings any more.
These three will be slow in coming but come they will.
As for private property rights? The Supreme Court already ruled that a State can confiscate your property using imminent domain for the simple reason some other person or group will pay them more for it or pay more in taxes.
Once the 1st and 2nd are gone no more worry about the pesky population going postal if we start seizing their property.
Speedy trial? Hell that is already a joke in some cases. Once the Government has throttled the people and the press they will just take as long as they need to fabricate, err I mean build a case.
This will of course involve that pesky 5th amendment too. I mean think of the criminals that get off cause they have the right to face their accusers? Or that pesky right to not incriminate ones self? Think of all the children we can save if molesters, kidnappers and murderers could not stay quiet?
This doesn't happen over night but it is a steady progress.
Meanwhile we have posters on this board salivating at the idea of 5 or 6 Liberal Supreme Court Judges.
Legally and Constitutionally the current attempt to grab guns and restrict them are unreasonable and violate case law and precedent. But note carefully the left does not CARE.
So the debate is who thinks the fraction of a fraction of a percent of murders that occur and the even smaller number of children murdered and the extremely even smaller number of mass killings justifies the removal of Constitutional rights?