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BFDIsrael uses excessive force and annexation in Palestinian territories – UN report
30 September 2003 –
Israel is using excessive force in the occupied Palestinian territory (OPT), violating human rights in the name of counter-terrorism, and its building of a “separation wall” and expansion of settlements bear the hallmarks of annexation and illegal “conquest,” according to a United Nations human rights report released today.
United Nations News Centre - Israel uses excessive force and annexation in Palestinian territories UN report
Rather odd since Hamas is part of their government in the West Bank.You can't exclude Hamas.Are you sure, as the arab muslim charters say it is, they specifically say that the Jews will not be allowed to live in Palestine ( includes Israel by the way ) unless they are residents of Palestine from before the inception of Zionism. Do yopu know of any 165 year old Jews ?
Can you provide a link to this "charter"?
Like these do you mean
Palestine Center - The Charter of the Hamas
The Avalon Project Hamas Covenant 1988
Hamas Covenant - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Palestinian National Covenant - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
A HRC 16 NGO 134 of 8 March 2011
Lets exclude Hamas, since they refuse to recognize Israel. Where the do the last to links specifically say that the Jews will not be allowed to live in Palestine ( includes Israel by the way ) unless they are residents of Palestine from before the inception of Zionism.
Hamas is the Gaza government, and they make up half the government in the West Bank.
I don't understand your question.
Also the Palestinian Authority is the same thing as Hamas except that the leader where's a tie and is more discreet about wanting to destroy all of Israel.
PA still regards hamas as a terrorist group. Now they ahve called on the arab world to attack hamas.
BF what?
Not Arab women.The UN also claimed that Israel is the number one violator of women in the world despite women having full rights.
Not Arab women.There was a woman prime minister, there are women as justices of the Supreme Court.
That's because of Israeli and US drones are flying overhead.Let's compare this to the arab countries where women can't drive, vote, or even go out without a chaperone.
And when the UN told Israel to stop providing aid to apartheid South Africa, was that because of "...vile hatred of Jews"?What the UN says is just vile hatred of Jews.
Neither are you.It's not an actual legitimate source.
BFDIsrael uses excessive force and annexation in Palestinian territories – UN report
30 September 2003 –
Israel is using excessive force in the occupied Palestinian territory (OPT), violating human rights in the name of counter-terrorism, and its building of a “separation wall” and expansion of settlements bear the hallmarks of annexation and illegal “conquest,” according to a United Nations human rights report released today.
United Nations News Centre - Israel uses excessive force and annexation in Palestinian territories UN report
The UN also claimed that Israel is the number one violator of women in the world despite women having full rights.
There was a woman prime minister, there are women as justices of the Supreme Court.
Let's compare this to the arab countries where women can't drive, vote, or even go out without a chaperone.
What the UN says is just vile hatred of Jews.
It's not an actual legitimate source.
International Law?the settlements are illegal under international lawIn the minds of the leftist and the nutjobs at the U.N. Jews building homes is the biggest threat in the middle east right now.
BF what?
Not Arab women.The UN also claimed that Israel is the number one violator of women in the world despite women having full rights.
Not Arab women.There was a woman prime minister, there are women as justices of the Supreme Court.
In fact, the Knesset wants to make a law barring Arab-Israeli's from becoming PM.
That's because of Israeli and US drones are flying overhead.Let's compare this to the arab countries where women can't drive, vote, or even go out without a chaperone.
And when the UN told Israel to stop providing aid to apartheid South Africa, was that because of "...vile hatred of Jews"?What the UN says is just vile hatred of Jews.
You can't exclude Hamas.This issue has nothing to do with Judaism.
Are you sure, as the arab muslim charters say it is, they specifically say that the Jews will not be allowed to live in Palestine ( includes Israel by the way ) unless they are residents of Palestine from before the inception of Zionism. Do yopu know of any 165 year old Jews ?
Can you provide a link to this "charter"?
Like these do you mean
Palestine Center - The Charter of the Hamas
The Avalon Project Hamas Covenant 1988
Hamas Covenant - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Palestinian National Covenant - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
A HRC 16 NGO 134 of 8 March 2011
Lets exclude Hamas, since they refuse to recognize Israel. Where the do the last to links specifically say that the Jews will not be allowed to live in Palestine ( includes Israel by the way ) unless they are residents of Palestine from before the inception of Zionism.
Hamas is the Gaza government, and they make up half the government in the West Bank.
I don't understand your question.
Also the Palestinian Authority is the same thing as Hamas except that the leader where's a tie and is more discreet about wanting to destroy all of Israel.
It's the same government.You can't exclude Hamas.Are you sure, as the arab muslim charters say it is, they specifically say that the Jews will not be allowed to live in Palestine ( includes Israel by the way ) unless they are residents of Palestine from before the inception of Zionism. Do yopu know of any 165 year old Jews ?
Can you provide a link to this "charter"?
Like these do you mean
Palestine Center - The Charter of the Hamas
The Avalon Project Hamas Covenant 1988
Hamas Covenant - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Palestinian National Covenant - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
A HRC 16 NGO 134 of 8 March 2011
Lets exclude Hamas, since they refuse to recognize Israel. Where the do the last to links specifically say that the Jews will not be allowed to live in Palestine ( includes Israel by the way ) unless they are residents of Palestine from before the inception of Zionism.
Hamas is the Gaza government, and they make up half the government in the West Bank.
I don't understand your question.
Also the Palestinian Authority is the same thing as Hamas except that the leader where's a tie and is more discreet about wanting to destroy all of Israel.
My question is specific to Phoenall's claim - so, I'd like to know it states: specifically say that the Jews will not be allowed to live in Palestine ( includes Israel by the way ) unless they are residents of Palestine from before the inception of Zionism
The PA is not the same as Hamas.
BFDIsrael uses excessive force and annexation in Palestinian territories – UN report
30 September 2003 –
Israel is using excessive force in the occupied Palestinian territory (OPT), violating human rights in the name of counter-terrorism, and its building of a “separation wall” and expansion of settlements bear the hallmarks of annexation and illegal “conquest,” according to a United Nations human rights report released today.
United Nations News Centre - Israel uses excessive force and annexation in Palestinian territories UN report
The UN also claimed that Israel is the number one violator of women in the world despite women having full rights.
There was a woman prime minister, there are women as justices of the Supreme Court.
Let's compare this to the arab countries where women can't drive, vote, or even go out without a chaperone.
What the UN says is just vile hatred of Jews.
It's not an actual legitimate source.
It's the same government.You can't exclude Hamas.Can you provide a link to this "charter"?
Like these do you mean
Palestine Center - The Charter of the Hamas
The Avalon Project Hamas Covenant 1988
Hamas Covenant - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Palestinian National Covenant - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
A HRC 16 NGO 134 of 8 March 2011
Lets exclude Hamas, since they refuse to recognize Israel. Where the do the last to links specifically say that the Jews will not be allowed to live in Palestine ( includes Israel by the way ) unless they are residents of Palestine from before the inception of Zionism.
Hamas is the Gaza government, and they make up half the government in the West Bank.
I don't understand your question.
Also the Palestinian Authority is the same thing as Hamas except that the leader where's a tie and is more discreet about wanting to destroy all of Israel.
My question is specific to Phoenall's claim - so, I'd like to know it states: specifically say that the Jews will not be allowed to live in Palestine ( includes Israel by the way ) unless they are residents of Palestine from before the inception of Zionism
The PA is not the same as Hamas.
The Muslim Quarter had a mixed population of Jews, Muslims and Christians.
Looking at this - it seems like the relative majorities in population demographics were constantly shifting: Demographic history of Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Hard to assess how many were land owners or not and I'm not sure that is a point worth making since Netanyahu finally admitted that this was a deliberate government policy of moving Arabs out and Jews in. Given that - what ethnic cleansing is going on in Jeruselum now?
Actually, it's a bit more complex because even non-Arab Jerusalem natives are struggling to stay due to the very high cost of housing and to live there so the city demographics are favoring a wealthy elite over the traditional mix.
You're trying to switch focus here by throwing out the very terms you object to when they are applied to Israel.
That's irrelevent. The point is - will there be room for a state for them when you "deem" them ready? And who is doing "ethnic cleansing" in the meantime?
Now you are being silly.
As I said read the charters and see who is being apartheid
Not me that sets the criteria but the UN, its charter and resolutions. They have stated that the arab muslims have to talk peace and mutual borders before they will be accepted as a full member of the UN.
Am I or is it a fact posted often by some of the more virulent team Palestine posters that the P.A. want the UN, US and EU to evict the Jews from Palestine so they can have it all. They have demanded the UN take action to force Israel to go back to borders that have never existed, they have demanded that the US have their power of veto removed and stop giving Israel aid. They have demanded that existing laws be scrapped and rewritten in favour of the Palestinian cause. They have lied on oath about what the Jews have done and have forced media to stop reporting bad things about hamas.
And some of the more virulent Team Israel posters want the Palestinians evicted and sent to other countries so Israel can have it all.
So what?
The UN is not going to do that with either the Israeli's or the Palestinians. The argument is what to do with the Occupied Territories and all the rest is just chicken little.
Not quite they want the recent illegal immigrants removed and deported back to where they belong.
They aren't illegal immigrants. Demographics show a multiple ethnic and religious groups inhabiting Jerusalem.
Obama has just made a speech along those lines because he knows that the Jews would be wiped out in 6 months if they were forced to return to the 1949 armistice lines. Don't be fooled by the 67 borders as this is what is really meant. If the UN was decent it would have removed the P.A. from the lists and told them that while they engage in terrorist attacks they will get no more support from the UN or its member states. Watch them start running to the peace table if this ever happens, and the UN grows a pair.
The 67 borders are a starting point for land swaps. Nothing wrong with that. Except...Netanyahu and his electorate have shown they don't want any Palestinian state while public opinion polls amongst Palestinians show a majority still support a two state solution.
1922 treaty granted the land of Palestine to the Jews by its legal owners. The arab muslims were invited to stay in peace or go as enemies by the LoN. So they are illegal immigrants
What treaty forced borders on Israel that they did not want, and were are the armed garrisons along those borders to stop the Israelis from reclaiming the land that is theirs by International law.
This issue has nothing to do with Judaism.
Are you sure, as the arab muslim charters say it is, they specifically say that the Jews will not be allowed to live in Palestine ( includes Israel by the way ) unless they are residents of Palestine from before the inception of Zionism. Do yopu know of any 165 year old Jews ?
Can you provide a link to this "charter"?
Like these do you mean
Palestine Center - The Charter of the Hamas
The Avalon Project Hamas Covenant 1988
Hamas Covenant - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Palestinian National Covenant - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
A HRC 16 NGO 134 of 8 March 2011
Lets exclude Hamas, since they refuse to recognize Israel. Where the do the last to links specifically say that the Jews will not be allowed to live in Palestine ( includes Israel by the way ) unless they are residents of Palestine from before the inception of Zionism.
How about the changes that were never ratified under the PLO rules of two thirds majority of full council to pass them
Although the PNC met in Gaza on 24 April 1996, it did not revoke or change the covenant, but only issued a statement saying that it had become aged, and that an undefined part of it would be rewritten at an undetermined date in the future. While the English language press release stated that the PLO Covenant was "hereby amended", the Arabic version of Yassir Arafat's letter on this declaration stated:
It has been decided upon: 1. Changing the Palestine National Charter by canceling the articles that are contrary to the letters exchanged between the PLO and the Government of Israel, on 9 and 10 September 1993. 2. The PNC will appoint a legal committee with the task of redrafting the National Charter. The Charter will be presented to the first meeting of the Central Council.
Formally, the resolution adopted by the council consisted of two simple clauses. The first declared that the council "decides to amend the Palestinian National Covenant by canceling clauses which contradict the letters exchanged between the P.L.O. and the Israeli Government." The second ordered a new charter to be drafted within six months
The decision fails to meet the obligations laid out in the Oslo accords in two respects. First, the actual amendment of the Covenant has been left for a future date. As of now, the old Covenant, in its original form, remains the governing document of the PLO, and will continue in this status until the amendments are actually approved... There is a sharp difference between calling for something to change and actually implementing the changes. Second, the decision does not specify which clauses will be amended.
BFDIsrael uses excessive force and annexation in Palestinian territories – UN report
30 September 2003 –
Israel is using excessive force in the occupied Palestinian territory (OPT), violating human rights in the name of counter-terrorism, and its building of a “separation wall” and expansion of settlements bear the hallmarks of annexation and illegal “conquest,” according to a United Nations human rights report released today.
United Nations News Centre - Israel uses excessive force and annexation in Palestinian territories UN report
The UN also claimed that Israel is the number one violator of women in the world despite women having full rights.
There was a woman prime minister, there are women as justices of the Supreme Court.
Let's compare this to the arab countries where women can't drive, vote, or even go out without a chaperone.
What the UN says is just vile hatred of Jews.
It's not an actual legitimate source.
I don't think they actually did say that - Fox said that.
The UN singled Israel out in regards to Palestinian women in on particular report: titled "Situation of and assistance to Palestinian women," Yemen, Saudi Arabia, all of those other countries have no bearing in regards to that. No where can I find anything claiming Israel is the number one violator of women in the world.
Are you mad?UN fails to help women in need from syria, sudan or a dozen other countries, but it blames Israel for conditions in gaza?
Hamas is the only one that can help the women in gaza, or make life harder for them.
