The Imaginary Greatness of FDR

[rightwinger]

It may have been a false economy, but the Government was the only one spending during those years. If left to the free market unemployment would have reached 50% and additional millions of Americans would have been starving in the street.
Drastic measures are called for in drastic times.....and FDR was the right man to deliver

The government was the only one spending because the income tax rates were over 90%. There was no money left in the private sector to spend. The government was taking all of it.

Nonsense...you know what a graduated tax rate is

 

[caddis]

Worst president ever. Obama will never hold a candle to the damage that man did

 

[rightwinger]

If you talk to the people who lived through the depression, it was not about GNP, not about the stock market, not about the banks

It was about the people

FDR understood that. People had their farms blow away in a cloud of dust, people lost their homes, people stood on bread lines. While the Republicans said let things work themselves out....FDR understood the GOVERNMENT had to step in and help the people

FDR got them jobs, FDR made sure they were fed, FDR cared about their children

Thats why the people elected him four times

And if things had been allowed to work themselves out naturally the economy likely would have healed much faster than it did. I guarantee you it wouldn't have taken an entire decade.

Roosevelt was elected four times because he was the first president to give people handouts with other people's money.

You have no way of knowing that...

Are you willing to gamble with peoples lives? How many Americans would you allow to starve before letting the Government step in?

You have to understand it is a Government of the people. Playing games with letting the people suffer while the market self corrects would have led to riots and a possible revolution

FDR calmed the people, showed he cared, got them jobs and kept the country intact

 

[Liability]

If you talk to the people who lived through the depression, it was not about GNP, not about the stock market, not about the banks

It was about the people

FDR understood that. People had their farms blow away in a cloud of dust, people lost their homes, people stood on bread lines. While the Republicans said let things work themselves out....FDR understood the GOVERNMENT had to step in and help the people

FDR got them jobs, FDR made sure they were fed, FDR cared about their children

Thats why the people elected him four times

And if things had been allowed to work themselves out naturally the economy likely would have healed much faster than it did. I guarantee you it wouldn't have taken an entire decade.

Roosevelt was elected four times because he was the first president to give people handouts with other people's money.

You have no way of knowing that...

Actually, you would have no way of knowing that your own article of faith (the nonsense that gives FDR credit for saving America) is true, either. But, you happen to be wrong. There are indeed ways of ascertaining that the programs and numerous manipulations of FDR caused a prolonged depression.

 

[rightwinger]

And if things had been allowed to work themselves out naturally the economy likely would have healed much faster than it did. I guarantee you it wouldn't have taken an entire decade.

Roosevelt was elected four times because he was the first president to give people handouts with other people's money.

You have no way of knowing that...

Actually, you would have no way of knowing that your own article of faith (the nonsense that gives FDR credit for saving America) is true, either. But, you happen to be wrong. There are indeed ways of ascertaining that the programs and numerous manipulations of FDR caused a prolonged depression.

I'm sure the right wing revisionists have plenty of revised data...

But at what cost? You can't play statistics with human lives. On top of the Depression, the entire plains blew away in a cloud of dust leaving an economic and ecological disaster. Do you stand by an wait for things to self correct (like Hoover did) or do you step in and help your fellow Americans?

 

[Claudette]

If you talk to the people who lived through the depression, it was not about GNP, not about the stock market, not about the banks

It was about the people

FDR understood that. People had their farms blow away in a cloud of dust, people lost their homes, people stood on bread lines. While the Republicans said let things work themselves out....FDR understood the GOVERNMENT had to step in and help the people

FDR got them jobs, FDR made sure they were fed, FDR cared about their children

Thats why the people elected him four times

And if things had been allowed to work themselves out naturally the economy likely would have healed much faster than it did. I guarantee you it wouldn't have taken an entire decade.

Roosevelt was elected four times because he was the first president to give people handouts with other people's money.

AS much as TM would like to believe it. No one is rewriting history.

Folks are just taking a closer look at it.

OL'BO is taking us down that same road one more time. Jeeze.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I already pointed that out you. I told you it was a false economy. He hiked up taxes over 90% to implement a wealth redistribution scheme where he could put people to work with government jobs. That's not a recovery. As you said, when he backed off his spending, unemployment went right back up, which proves exactly what we've all been telling you. There was no recovery. If there had been an economic recovery unemployment would not have risen back up again because the private sector would have been producing. It wasn't producing. Get it??? It's not that hard to understand.

Is this why you turned off your rep? Were you getting tired of being negative repped for being such an insufferable douche bag? You're free to believe what ever you want, but when you call other people uneducated who clearly have more education than you and call them idiots when you clearly don't understand what you're talking about, that makes you an insufferable douche bag.

Insufferable douch bag??? LMAO

You got that right Bro.

Of course if FDR had been a Rep we wouldn't be having this discussion. TM would have been damning him all over the place. LOL

Actually we did have a Republican in charge for the first three years of the depression. Hoover followed Republican doctrine of let the market correct itself, let business take care of business in this case. A damaged economy became a horrific economy

Just like the lies of FDR "Greatness"!

Hoover raised taxes and centrally planned the economy.

During 1920, Hoover advised Harding to raise taxes and centrally plan the economy, Harding ignored him and instead

cut government spending 50%,

slashed taxes by 1/3,

while the Fed sat still

and within a year we were out of the worst recession ever.

Progressives lie about Hoover and his free market approach and lie about the "Greatness" of FDR.

Harding = free market = ended in one year a recession that was at least as bad as the start of the Hoover/FDR Depression.

Progressives lie and lie and lie and lie

 

[rightwinger]

Insufferable douch bag??? LMAO

You got that right Bro.

Of course if FDR had been a Rep we wouldn't be having this discussion. TM would have been damning him all over the place. LOL

Actually we did have a Republican in charge for the first three years of the depression. Hoover followed Republican doctrine of let the market correct itself, let business take care of business in this case. A damaged economy became a horrific economy

Just like the lies of FDR "Greatness"!

Hoover raised taxes and centrally planned the economy.

During 1920, Hoover advised Harding to raise taxes and centrally plan the economy, Harding ignored him and instead

cut government spending 50%,

slashed taxes by 1/3,

while the Fed sat still

and within a year we were out of the worst recession ever.

Progressives lie about Hoover and his free market approach and lie about the "Greatness" of FDR.

Harding = free market = ended in one year a recession that was at least as bad as the start of the Hoover/FDR Depression.

Progressives lie and lie and lie and lie

Sell it to Glenn Beck...

The 1920 Recession in no way equates to the 1930 Depression

Except to right wingers trying to rewrite history

 

[Truthmatters]

If you talk to the people who lived through the depression, it was not about GNP, not about the stock market, not about the banks

It was about the people

FDR understood that. People had their farms blow away in a cloud of dust, people lost their homes, people stood on bread lines. While the Republicans said let things work themselves out....FDR understood the GOVERNMENT had to step in and help the people

FDR got them jobs, FDR made sure they were fed, FDR cared about their children

Thats why the people elected him four times

And if things had been allowed to work themselves out naturally the economy likely would have healed much faster than it did. I guarantee you it wouldn't have taken an entire decade.

Roosevelt was elected four times because he was the first president to give people handouts with other people's money.

AS much as TM would like to believe it. No one is rewriting history.

Folks are just taking a closer look at it.

OL'BO is taking us down that same road one more time. Jeeze.

Taking a closer look?

Dear idiot, this is one of the most combed over times in history, your little band of fools is rewriting history.

Two profs write one paper about one single program of FDRs and you idiots turn it into a full blow rewrite of EVERY study done on the period of time. Your ideas are so failed that you have to buy lies instead of facts.

One has to wonder why you idiots dont just abandone your failed ideas instead of having to spew hate on Sceince , history and anyone educated above the high school level to make your ideas SEEM viable.

GET SOME IDEAS THAT ARE NOT FAILURES!

 

[Claudette]

And if things had been allowed to work themselves out naturally the economy likely would have healed much faster than it did. I guarantee you it wouldn't have taken an entire decade.

Roosevelt was elected four times because he was the first president to give people handouts with other people's money.

AS much as TM would like to believe it. No one is rewriting history.

Folks are just taking a closer look at it.

OL'BO is taking us down that same road one more time. Jeeze.

Taking a closer look?

Dear idiot, this is one of the most combed over times in history, your little band of fools is rewriting history.

Two profs write one paper about one single program of FDRs and you idiots turn it into a full blow rewrite of EVERY study done on the period of time. Your ideas are so failed that you have to buy lies instead of facts.

One has to wonder why you idiots dont just abandone your failed ideas instead of having to spew hate on Sceince , history and anyone educated above the high school level to make your ideas SEEM viable.

GET SOME IDEAS THAT ARE NOT FAILURES!

Hey TM.

Stuff it up your partisan ass.

If FDR had been a Rep I know you would have a whole different take on his performans as Prez. He wouldn't have saved America, he would have brought it down. LOL

Yep. He would have been one of those nasty idiots who spew hate on Science and rewrote history. He would have done all this so his ideas would seem viable.

You are a royal ass TM.

 

[Truthmatters]

You ar a fucking idiot.

Foir me its the ideas and not the party.

Give up your fucking lame loser ideas and get soem good ones that work to solve the problems in this country and see how fast I become a republican.

 

[Truthmatters]

Theodore Roosevelt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A great republican

 

[Truthmatters]

Dwight D. Eisenhower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A great republican

 

[Gadawg73]

People these days have no clue as to the issues facing America in the 30s and 40s.
Foreign policy was #1 after getting us back to work. If people do not know that massive and rampant fraud in the private sector is what caused the depression then they need a history lesson.
Foreign policy was the #1 priority during war and last time I looked it added up like this:
1. FDR
2. Churchill
3. Stalin

And at the bottom of the pile was Japan and Germany.

War is like a dog sled team. If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.

 

[Truthmatters]

They prefer to just rewrite the history to fit their current political view.

Smart people change their minds and find new ideas when their ideas fail, cons just adjust the truth to fit their ideas.

 

[Liability]

You have no way of knowing that...

Actually, you would have no way of knowing that your own article of faith (the nonsense that gives FDR credit for saving America) is true, either. But, you happen to be wrong. There are indeed ways of ascertaining that the programs and numerous manipulations of FDR caused a prolonged depression.

I'm sure the right wing revisionists have plenty of revised data...

But at what cost? You can't play statistics with human lives. On top of the Depression, the entire plains blew away in a cloud of dust leaving an economic and ecological disaster. Do you stand by an wait for things to self correct (like Hoover did) or do you step in and help your fellow Americans?

It is, as you already know, you libs who make the strident efforts to alter data.

Correcting liberoidally-manipulated (dishonest) data is not "revisionism," leftwinger. It's called "correction."

The dust bowl, by the way, was a result of natural causes. FDR using that as an excuse to engage in socialism and other manipulative behaviors was disgraceful.

You libs always try to pretend that you are "all about" people who are hurting. But that's bullshit. You guys are, instead, always and exclusively about nothing but the acquisition of power. The modern day formulation of that is crudely expressed as "don't waste a good crisis." You guys are odious, manipulative, dishonest and dangerous.

 

[The Rabbi]

People these days have no clue as to the issues facing America in the 30s and 40s.
Foreign policy was #1 after getting us back to work. If people do not know that massive and rampant fraud in the private sector is what caused the depression then they need a history lesson.
Foreign policy was the #1 priority during war and last time I looked it added up like this:
1. FDR
2. Churchill
3. Stalin

And at the bottom of the pile was Japan and Germany.

War is like a dog sled team. If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.

Massive and rampant fraud was the cause? Really?

 

[Truthmatters]

The dust bowl was a natural disastor???????????


Do you even have any idea what caused it asshole?

 

[Truthmatters]

Why the 1930s Dust Bowl Was So Bad | LiveScience

 

[Liability]

The dust bowl was a natural disastor???????????


Do you even have any idea what caused it asshole?

Yes, scum-sucker, you filthy lying twat. I do. And it's a shit-breath bitch like you who is the asshole.

Now, shithead, go educate your worthless propagandized joke of a "mind." Maybe someday you too can have a grasp on reality. Doubtful, but a worthy aspiration.

And it's "disaster," by the way. You worthless dumb-fuck.