The greater good trumps the desires of an individual

[jon_berzerk]

 

[Billy000]

I agree with the OP.

Of course you do. So would Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Sure buddy.

You dispute it? Would you like me to provide quotes?

Quotes? Oh yeah. That always makes for a great argument!

 

[dblack]

I agree with the OP.

Of course you do. So would Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Sure buddy.

You dispute it? Would you like me to provide quotes?

Quotes? Oh yeah. That always makes for a great argument!

Can be more specific that "greater good"? Clearly, Donald Trump might have a different definition that Jimmy Carter, eh?

 

[Agit8r]

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
- Thomas Jefferson

"The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime, abuses its strength, and by acting on the law of the strongest breaks up the foundations of society."
- Thomas Jefferson

And yet, when an individual takes liberties upon the equal rights of his fellows, justice demands that those liberties be curbed.

"There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to ensure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves"
-- Ronald Reagan; from interview in Reason Magazine (July 1, 1975)

 

[Pop23]

I agree with the OP.

Of course you do. So would Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Sure buddy.

You dispute it? Would you like me to provide quotes?

Quotes? Oh yeah. That always makes for a great argument!

Clearly there are some in the society known as Radical Muslim that feel pedophilia and under age rape is the greater good for that society.

Please at least try to be a bit more specific.

 

[martybegan]

That should be the model of American politics.

That being said, I am all for any personal freedom that does not harm the greater good.

And who gets to define the threshold where personal freedom loses to "the greater good"

We all know your side will define it as "anything I agree with is fine, anything I don't agree with, BAN BAN BAN!!!"

 

[dblack]

And yet, when an individual takes liberties upon the equal rights of his fellows, justice demands that those liberties be curbed.

Yep. But that's an entirely different claim than the OP.

 

[PredFan]

Wrong. Individualism is the way to go. If individuals take care of themselves, it will be for the greater good.

 

[Redfish]

That should be the model of American politics.

That being said, I am all for any personal freedom that does not harm the greater good.

who defines the "greater good" ? Who decides?

 

[Preacher]

I agree with the OP.

Of course you do. So would Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Sure buddy.

Which one do you dispute? He is right. I know more about NS Germany than the other 2 and Roosevelt was the least of those 3 with Stalin doing what was best for the elite Hitler did what was right for his entire people. Ein Volk,Ein Reich,Ein Fuhrer. One People,One Nation.One Ruler. Everything for the state and when its done correctly and with the people at the forefront its a great thing in a country like this it will never work.

 

[Preacher]

Wrong. Individualism is the way to go. If individuals take care of themselves, it will be for the greater good.

No its not. A community coming together for the common good is much better than individual people battling for their own self interests its why "democracies" fail and eventually fall and those that put the common good flourish until they are taken out by the Jew such as NS Germany.

 

[PredFan]

That should be the model of American politics.

That being said, I am all for any personal freedom that does not harm the greater good.

Wrong. Individualism is the way to go. If individuals take care of themselves, it will be for the greater good.

No its not. A community coming together for the common good is much better than individual people battling for their own self interests its why "democracies" fail and eventually fall and those that put the common good flourish until they are taken out by the Jew such as NS Germany.

Wrong, history shows that your socialist ideals always fail. How much greater good are the people of Russia and its former countries enjoying right now? How about Venezuela? China? North Korea?

Just like society is made up of individuals, individuals taking care of themselves makes for the greater good.

 

[TNHarley]

You sound like Hitler.

 

[Redfish]

That should be the model of American politics.

That being said, I am all for any personal freedom that does not harm the greater good.

Wrong. Individualism is the way to go. If individuals take care of themselves, it will be for the greater good.

No its not. A community coming together for the common good is much better than individual people battling for their own self interests its why "democracies" fail and eventually fall and those that put the common good flourish until they are taken out by the Jew such as NS Germany.

Wrong, history shows that your socialist ideals always fail. How much greater good are the people of Russia and its former countries enjoying right now? How about Venezuela? China? North Korea?

Just like society is made up of individuals, individuals taking care of themselves makes for the greater good.

the greater good = in demspeak, taking everything from successful people and giving it to those who are too lazy to work.

 

[Preacher]

That should be the model of American politics.

That being said, I am all for any personal freedom that does not harm the greater good.

Wrong. Individualism is the way to go. If individuals take care of themselves, it will be for the greater good.

No its not. A community coming together for the common good is much better than individual people battling for their own self interests its why "democracies" fail and eventually fall and those that put the common good flourish until they are taken out by the Jew such as NS Germany.

Wrong, history shows that your socialist ideals always fail. How much greater good are the people of Russia and its former countries enjoying right now? How about Venezuela? China? North Korea?

Just like society is made up of individuals, individuals taking care of themselves makes for the greater good.

All communist not socialist. Socialism the RIGHT WAY aka National or Racial Socialism does work it worked just fine in NS Germany it was merely defeated by the Jew and its allies of the world jumping on the train.

One other basic idea that the White Man is hopelessly confused about is socialism or collectivism, and I use these words interchangeably. Since this idea has been so terribly abused and confused by the Jews, the Communists and the Kosher Konservatives to the point where they could mean anything, I am going to set forth the position and meaning that the Church of the Creator gives to the term socialism: to us socialism means Organized Society, period. It does not at all imply state ownership of the means of production, nor does it, in our definition, imply confiscation of private property. On the contrary.


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[Preacher]

That should be the model of American politics.

That being said, I am all for any personal freedom that does not harm the greater good.

Wrong. Individualism is the way to go. If individuals take care of themselves, it will be for the greater good.

No its not. A community coming together for the common good is much better than individual people battling for their own self interests its why "democracies" fail and eventually fall and those that put the common good flourish until they are taken out by the Jew such as NS Germany.

Wrong, history shows that your socialist ideals always fail. How much greater good are the people of Russia and its former countries enjoying right now? How about Venezuela? China? North Korea?

Just like society is made up of individuals, individuals taking care of themselves makes for the greater good.

the greater good = in demspeak, taking everything from successful people and giving it to those who are too lazy to work.

Exactly why it would never work here or in ANY multicult society.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
- Thomas Jefferson

"The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime, abuses its strength, and by acting on the law of the strongest breaks up the foundations of society."
- Thomas Jefferson

And yet, when an individual takes liberties upon the equal rights of his fellows, justice demands that those liberties be curbed.

"There is a legitimate need in an orderly society for some government to maintain freedom or we will have tyranny by individuals. The strongest man on the block will run the neighborhood. We have government to ensure that we don’t each one of us have to carry a club to defend ourselves"
-- Ronald Reagan; from interview in Reason Magazine (July 1, 1975)

Reagan was correct, but his statement has nothing to do with crushing the rights of the individual in favor of the group, but the danger of rising dictators.

"Your rights end where mine begin" is quite an easy concept to grasp.

 

[MACAULAY]

The greater good sounds rather subjective one persons greater good could be another persons nightmare.

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Absolutely....this O. P. Loon means for Loons like him to decide what the Greater Good is.....our founders considered all this...things fresh new Socialists Loons are just now considering...and they concluded that self-reliance, individual initiative, merit, hard work...Jefferson Principals in general....were the Greater Good and this approach created the greatest society thus far known to man.

But, The Democratic Party...which is gradually revealing itself as Karl Marx's Socialist Party....wants to rethink it all...mainly because they have become lazy slugs who love The Free Stuff, and don't understand it has to be paid for somehow.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

That should be the model of American politics.

That being said, I am all for any personal freedom that does not harm the greater good.

Lol. You sure do love worshipping the state which brings more harm to the people.

 

[Katzndogz]

The greater good can go fuck itself. The world owes its continued existence to be in constant rebellion against the greater good.