The GOP, Cheaters, Ron Paul won the State of Maine

[Shelzin]

OK shelly go fuck yourself sideways.

You are not debating your stroking your pud

Newsflash darlin... You aren't debating either. I think you have figured out where I was going and you feel stupid now. Which is good.

The good news is... It takes a very long time for me to hold grudges. No worries.

 

[Shelzin]

It has been clinically proven, and published in peer-reviewed periodicals, that TM knows exactly -0% about truth OR the proper form of debate.

Oh... I think she is capable... If I didn't think that I wouldn't reply at all.

 

[Truthmatters]

no you asshole you are going nowhere and being a complete taintwallow while doing so.


If you have a point you have yet to make it/.

want to make a point or are you just fucking pointless to the very bottom of your soul.

 

[Truthmatters]

Your gold standard is a fringe idea with MANY detractors besides me

 

[koshergrl]

No, Shelzin..she is not capable. There's a reason she is the board mascot.

 

[Truthmatters]

The gold standard would be unworkable in this world today.

That is why NO ONE but Paulbots spew it

 

[Truthmatters]

No, Shelzin..she is not capable. There's a reason she is the board mascot.

tell us why you think the gold standard would be a good idea?

 

[Truthmatters]

Neither of you are offering any intelligent converstation on what you claim is your own beliefs.

Because you are mindless dupes

 

[Truthmatters]

How do you prevent the manipulation of the gold market when you have an international commodity as your base?

 

[Truthmatters]

Got nothing huh?

 

[Shelzin]

no you asshole

Equal Opportunity Asshole

Says it right under my username... No denying that.

you are going nowhere and being a complete taintwallow while doing so.

I'm not sure what a taintwallow is... But ok... Whatever.

If you have a point you have yet to make it/.

My point is you don't know what you are talking about. And it's a very bad idea to tell me what my opinions and policies are. It won't turn out well for you.

want to make a point or are you just fucking pointless to the very bottom of your soul.

Don't let me, or anyone else, get you angry on the internet. Take a breath and step back. That isn't going to help you.

I feel a *little* bad that you are upset. So... Here:
Ron Paul VS Paul Krugman 4-30-12 FULL Bloomberg - YouTube

A big one for you is around 8 minutes... But you should watch the whole thing. It's a great view on both sides.

 

[Shelzin]

The gold standard would be unworkable in this world today.

That is why NO ONE but Paulbots spew it

No, Shelzin..she is not capable. There's a reason she is the board mascot.

tell us why you think the gold standard would be a good idea?

Neither of you are offering any intelligent converstation on what you claim is your own beliefs.

Because you are mindless dupes

How do you prevent the manipulation of the gold market when you have an international commodity as your base?

Got nothing huh?

Quantity doesn't mean anything. Your quality of post isn't worth addressing with any kind of seriousness. Why do you expect anyone to put more effort into this than you do?

 

[Truthmatters]

ahh the "your a poopy pants" arguement .


gee your so well informed.

 

[Truthmatters]

yoiu have taken post after post to say nothing

congrats

your a real fine dupe

 

[Shelzin]

ahh the "your a poopy pants" arguement .


gee your so well informed.

*chuckles*

Your problem is that I won't prove how well informed I am to you. My problem is you aren't worth the effort to prove I am well informed. Only one of us can fix this based on the fact that I will not ignore you. But I will treat you as I believe you are worth if you reply to me.

Take it as a compliment that I reply to you. I think you are capable. Now you just have to prove it, or... Deal with it.

 

[Shelzin]

No, Shelzin..she is not capable. There's a reason she is the board mascot.

I'm stubborn. It'll take a while before I believe that.

 

[Truthmatters]

This is how the right sees debate.


they offer nothing but think that makes them "clever".

it just make you look stupid and dishonest.

 

[Truthmatters]

And you wonder why the right gets very few new converts

 

[Truthmatters]

You have nothing to say.


how does that make you correct on any issue?

 

[Truthmatters]

Some here may be wondering why I have taken such a strong stance against Romney recently and apparent support for Obama...even though I just could not stomach voting for him after what the DNC did to Hillary....(another long story)

well, I'm going to tell you why....

It's because the GOP here in Maine Cheated. FLAT OUT CHEATED.
VOTER FRAUD.

Mainers or Mainiacs if you don't like us, are very independent people....they work hard with 2-3 jobs each, and mind their own business kind of people.

My husband is a life long Republican, he has voted in every election since he was 18 years old, local and national, primaries and elections....he's the most honest person I have ever met in my entire life, and I am not saying this because I love him and am married to him....anyone who knows him, knows this about him....he is liked by everyone he meets, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian.....you just can't help but like him...that's how he won me over , that and his music and some of the love songs he had written (another long story )

The hubby has a young, honest, friend, who used to be an employee of his...he worked with Matt until he got the job he wanted, being a Pastor. His name is Matthew also, Matthew McDonald. I am giving you his name because I want you to do some googling yourself, to read up on the situation here with the Maine Caucus and I certainly have Matthew McDonald's permission to shout what happened here in Maine with the GOP from the rooftops.

Matthew McDonald was elected the head of the Caucus for the GOP Caucus that took place in a small town called Belfast, Maine. Right before the Caucus, he got a phone call from the head of the GOP in Maine, as did ALL OTHER caucus heads for the GOP in Maine, and was told to NOT TO DO A PUBLIC COUNT on the caucus result and to just forward the votes to to the head quarters. Well, Matthew McDonald did not follow the GOP's request to not count the votes in public, and in his district, they counted the votes one by one, out loud in front of the voters and crowd, the vote went something like this.....8 votes for Ron Paul, 7 votes for Santorum, and 5 votes for Romney, then they forwarded them to the headquarters as requested. A few days later he went to the website where the votes were being displayed by district and he saw that they did not have any votes for his town or his county in the tally. He then called the party headquarters and asked why the votes for his small town were not showing...they hymned and hawed, for a bit, but then he asked them to tell him what the votes were that they had on Belfast....and the person came back and said something like 9 votes for Romney, 2 votes for Ron Paul and 5 votes for Santorum.....THEY CHEATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He then said to them, NOOOOOOOO, that is not what the vote tally came to....and the Gop person said nastily, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS WRONG?

(she or he felt confident in confronting Matthew McDonald on the vote tally because all the Caucus heads were INSTRUCTED BY THE GOP, TO NOT COUNT THEIR VOTES IN THE PUBLIC)

And he told her, because WE DID A PUBLIC COUNT, our votes were tallied in front of the citizens of the town. She or He about fell over....and could not hang up on him quick enough...

So, the GOP HERE IN MAINE, CHEATED to make Romney the winner...they PLANNED IT ahead of time by instructing the Caucus heads not to do a Public count.

RON PAUL WON MY STATE, NOT ROMNEY. It was set up to cheat, and give the State to Romney.

Then at their state convention in May, the GOP CHEATED AGAIN, and voted on the delegates to send to the national convention and did this WITHOUT A quorum....it was a madhouse and craziness that you would think only happens in movies...keeping the Ron Paul voters from choosing delegates to the electoral collage.....Ron Paul supporters were outraged. And somehow the gop romney supporters are suing for something, and Ron Paul voters are calling BS and a whole mess of things that I truly do not understand????maybe one of you guys who have participated in a Caucus before can make Reason out of this???

And also, the gop called the win for romney in a close race with Ron Paul right up there, before 1 county even voted. They had a pending snow storm and had to put their caucus voting off until later. Of which the GOP apologized for later on, but sheesh...whoopdee doo....

Matthew McDonald is just a kid to me...I think he is in his late 20's....and he's been thrown in to this mess, via his own honesty.

You would think this would have been front page news across this Nation....?

I realize that Maine is a low populated State and we really don't count for much in the overall picture of things but SINCE the gop CHEATED here in Maine, via telling their caucuses not to do a public count so they could CHANGE the republican voter's tallies, YOU KNOW these instruction to not do a public count, ALSO TOOK PLACE in other States.

Here are some links I found on the subject.....


these 2 are Rachel Maddow, i know, i know...ugh rachel maddow
Maddow -On Republican Election Vote Rigging (15-Feb-12)(1-2)(POLITICS IN ACTION series) - YouTube
Maddow -On Republican Election Vote Rigging (15-Feb-12)(2-2)(POLITICS IN ACTION series) - YouTube

Exclusive Report: GOP Chair. Matt McDonald talks to RevPac's Aaron Jones | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution

Civilians News - Civilians News Media - By the People For the People


Ron Paul supporters fight back as Romney backers allege voter fraud at Maine GOP convention — Politics — Bangor Daily News — BDN Maine

State committee votes to keep Maine GOP chairman Charlie Webster in place despite caucus mess — Politics — Bangor Daily News — BDN Maine

RP Supporter Chairman of Belfast Maine Caucus Calls State GOP to Confirm Vote Tally, result "not even close" to the actual vote! | Peace . Gold . Liberty | Revolution


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Regardless of what you may think of Ron Paul, this issue with Romney cheating is something I just can't stomach....it's how I felt when the DNC screwed Hillary. I'm sickened over it.

Honesty is the Best Policy....yes Honesty. And cheating is NOT ACCEPTABLE under ANY circumstance. You all may be able to go on with your lives, while the lies swirl around you....but as human being, who does care for other fellow human beings and the truth....this happening in my home State, has blown my faith in mankind.

care is right , the republicans cheat their asses off